AThis makes complete and utter sense, get a whole bunch of new hardware out there with Lion on it. Launch it all around the same time, it'll be a massive big screw you to the competition and it's shows huge confidence in Lion as well.
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Apple Holding New Mac Hardware Updates Until OS X Lion Launches?
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10.4 was brilliant for me, didn't ever get a problem. Thankfully neither of the machines in our house need replacing anytime soon, so I can afford to wait for a few months.
It was for me too once I'd removed the USB 2.0 PCI card from my PowerMac G4 which had worked flawlessly with Jaguar & Panther but failed miserably with Tiger.
Yeah I think it makes total sense. But maybe that's because I'm looking forward to running Lion on the Air I already have, not waiting for a new one of those as well .
But this also gives them the opportunity to make the new hardware incapable of running anything before Lion, as we know they like to do with these things.
.But this also gives them the opportunity to make the new hardware incapable of running anything before Lion, as we know they like to do with these things.
What's the big deal? All macs produced after Lion launches will naturally ship with Lion, regardless of when they were last refreshed. So even if they released new macs now, they'd be shipping with Lion soon enough. It makes sense to ship with the latest version of the OS (can you imagine the complaints if they didn't?).
The number of people that wouldn't want the hassle of updating their mac two weeks after it was refreshed likely outnumber the people who purposely wish to avoid upgrading. I want a Mac Mini now, so I wish they were shipping now. I don't mind upgrading the OS, but I can understand why Apple wouldn't want to launch new products so close to the new OS launch.
I want them to wait as long as possible! I JUST bought 2 MBAs last month and I knew updated MBAs were coming. But we needed them at the office. It makes me feel better for buying when I did if an update doesn't come out a month later...That actually causes me fury! I do feel bad for the people who would kill for an update tho.
I loved Tiger. It was so awesome and surprisingly stable from the get go. I remember how cool spotlight was when it was first released.
this news particularly sucks because i'm leaving my current job where i have a fellowship that i can buy a new mba with. leaving june 30th. ugh.
The platform of choice for Lion has been the Air, if you viewed all the demos at the keynote and if you look on Apples website most of the videos of Lion are on an Air.
So delaying the Air for Lion makes sense for Apple and the end user experiences.
So delaying the Air for Lion makes sense for Apple and the end user experiences.
This is annoying
I don't really understand why this is seen as a "good idea" for Apple. I won't buy the MBA until it's updated, but I'm getting antsy.
And, since Apple has a history of having issues with their first release of anything, it would be better for them to split it up. I think I would really appreciate having Snow Leopard on the updated MBA before installing Lion myself once the kinks from the .0 release are worked out. Once again, Apple is disappointing me, and if Windows wasn't so crappy, I would jump ship and go to them.
I don't really understand why this is seen as a "good idea" for Apple. I won't buy the MBA until it's updated, but I'm getting antsy.
And, since Apple has a history of having issues with their first release of anything, it would be better for them to split it up. I think I would really appreciate having Snow Leopard on the updated MBA before installing Lion myself once the kinks from the .0 release are worked out. Once again, Apple is disappointing me, and if Windows wasn't so crappy, I would jump ship and go to them.
Yep. I think that this is a clever move. Especially for those in other countries who might have gotten a new Mac with Snow Leopard when Lion is already released.
No 10.6 Snow Leopard No Rosetta
Steve Jobs wants to cut out anything old. He doesn't want any new Macs to be able to run 10.6 Snow Leopard. He wants those running 10.7 Lion to be higher than they really would be.
I know that I'll purchase OS 10.7 Lion the day it comes out. I'll install it on a separate partition & wait until I have the necessary programs that does not need Rosetta. If the past few system changes for me means anything , it will be months & maybe even a year before I change to OS 10.7 Lion. So I'll count a a OS 10.7 Lion User when really I'll still be an OS 10.5 or 10.6 User.
Steve Jobs wants to cut out anything old. He doesn't want any new Macs to be able to run 10.6 Snow Leopard. He wants those running 10.7 Lion to be higher than they really would be.
I know that I'll purchase OS 10.7 Lion the day it comes out. I'll install it on a separate partition & wait until I have the necessary programs that does not need Rosetta. If the past few system changes for me means anything , it will be months & maybe even a year before I change to OS 10.7 Lion. So I'll count a a OS 10.7 Lion User when really I'll still be an OS 10.5 or 10.6 User.
Well any mac that gets a hardware update with or after Lion will only ever run Lion+. So for machines in productive environments* being able to pull the OS back to an office standard is important. Not many people would trust and big complex soft ware running on a new OS and work time pressures.
But if we are talking Airs and Mini's then not much of an Issue. iMac's, MBP's and MacPro's would be of real concern but they aren't due for a few months in to the Lion change.
*Yes people do real work on Macs
I hope this doesn't mean the Time Capsule and AEBS are in that boat as well. I wish they would announce a firm date rather than just "July". I can't wait much longer for Time Capsule!
I can't wait much longer for Time Capsule!This is my concern as well. I'd buy a Sandybridge MacPro on the first day of availability because I could really use a speedy machine to replace my 2008 MP, but only if it can run Snow Leopard. If it can only run Lion, I'll have to wait until ALL of my essential production software is updated for Lion, which could be months. So if the new Mac Pro's do ship with Lion, it would be nice if they also included a SL disc for those of us who NEED to revert.
Nice gesture...
but I'd prefer rigorous testing of the hardware to ensure better product being released at the outset rather than having the latest OS installed on the machine.
Besides are any of the major non Apple apps/peripheral drivers even compliant with Lion? Adobe, Office etc. (might be a silly thing to ask but...). I wouldn't want Lion on my machine until it was stable.
but I'd prefer rigorous testing of the hardware to ensure better product being released at the outset rather than having the latest OS installed on the machine.
Besides are any of the major non Apple apps/peripheral drivers even compliant with Lion? Adobe, Office etc. (might be a silly thing to ask but...). I wouldn't want Lion on my machine until it was stable.
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