Apple Honors Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. With Homepage Tribute

[WarHeadz]

Show me once where I said that. Not even close.

In post #34 where you referred to memorializing someone with his photo and a quote on his national day of remembrance as a form of "pandering".

The point was how many others has apple memorialized.

Quite a few actually, guess you don't pay much attention.

O and he died for it.

Well obviously he didn't die willingly lol
You're funny.

 

[npmacuser5]

We shouldn't honor MLK. He wasn't politically correct enough and he didn't go out of his way to say nice things about white people and blames us for historical institutionalized racism in this country. He hurt my lily white feelings.

Those blacks though, they all need to get off their lazy asses and get to work and off the welfare! I'm not racist or anything, I have lots of black friends, I'm just not PC and I call it for what it is!

PC is an attempt to make a point in a discussion without offending, or being racist. Allows the discussion to focus on the points while not degrading and distracting the discussion. When one says they are not PC they are saying I want to offend and in some cases are proud of being racist. You can make your points without intentionally offending those you do not agree with. Might take a bit of extra thought and in most cases worth the effort. Just saying.

 

[nt5672]

. . . .Apple is not aligning themselves.
They are simply honoring MLK on his day and using a very powerful quote!

Exactly and its called free speech. Not that free speech is welcomed by the populous these days since most lack any level of tolerance for opposing views and ideas.

 

[WarHeadz]

PC is an attempt to make a point in a discussion without offending, or being racist. Allows the discussion to focus on the points while not degrading and distracting the discussion. When one says they are not PC they are saying I want to offend and in some cases are proud of being racist. You can make your points without intentionally offending those you do not agree with. Might take a bit of extra thought and in most cases worth the effort. Just saying.

I really didn't think I would have to use a sarcasm tag at the end of my post, but I guess I might have to edit it for those whose sarcasm detectors are on the fritz.

 

[NachoGrande]

In post #34 where you referred to memorializing someone with his photo and a quote on his national day of remembrance as a form of "pandering".


Quite a few actually, guess you don't pay much attention.


Well obviously he didn't die willingly lol
You're funny.

Can you show me a list. I could be wrong but I think I only remember 3 Steve maybe BB King and mlk.

 

[Lennholm]

Please add all the other companies which do the same, so it's a little bit more fair.

Other companies are irrelevant, this is a forum where we discuss Apple, this article is specifically about something Apple is doing and most other companies don't try to use a national hero to make themselves look good.

AND, while we are at it, please post the laws Apple is breaking by doing what they do.

The people who enforced segregation weren't breaking any laws either so why is MLK considered a hero and not just a troublemaker?
We can definitely expect better than just "not breaking any laws" from successful companies, especially one that puts itself (and has its fans put them) on the highest of horses.

 

[WarHeadz]

Can you show me a list. I could be wrong but I think I only remember 3 Steve maybe BB King and mlk.

Nelson Mandella and Robin Williams to name two more off the top of my head. It certainly takes a special person to get an Apple website tribute. Notice how all the people on the list are at least from the second half of the 20th century? Poor old Abey wouldn't even make the cut.

 

[mk_in_mke]

Ye Apple! Inpirational quote of the day! "What are you doing for others?" - well you are avoiding tax in Ireland to the tune of like 8 BILLION and you sell overpriced products with minimal change year on year to maximise the profit of the richest company ever created! Well done guys, Apple is the modern day mother Theresa!!! Oh.... wait....

I have to admit that i have little patience for people like you because of your lack of rational thinking. You have to be an hypocrite because Apple is not to blame. Apple is generating value for their shareholders. Instead, blame the political systems that allowed Apple - and many other companies - who are using legal possibilities and loopholes (maximizing their taxes)

You should take it to your political leaders and ask them to act and correct what they created instead of blaming the companies who are using all the tools in place and the laws in place... I would be willing to bet that if you are in the US, you are also paying attention to your savings and potential 401(k). In this case, why would blame the companies who are contributing to your getting better returns on your investment? isn't it a hypocrite position to criticize ALL the companies for what they do when they contribute to your retirement savings? Again, this notion of blame Apple or Microsoft or Google... Is a joke. Blame the politicians who allowed this to happen under pressure and with financing of the same companies who are benefitting from these tax shelters.

Regarding the price of Apple products: get a life! If Apple products are too expensive for you, buy other products from another company. No one is forcing you to pay for / buy a product you deem too expensive for your budget. To each his own...

Your avatar says "ILoveDeveloping"... How about developing some rational thinking for once?

 

[Thunderhawks]

For thousands of years, that was the preferred course of action. Even Religious texts agree and having re-read a few passages lately, some parallels are somewhat distressing but before I talk about something different, back to the original point: Nowadays it's one big ego sell, "Look at ME, I am donating (0.0001 of my net worth just like how each of you can donate a nickel while you criticize others who don't give as much as I do. Give ME praise!)"



Words vs actions. Apple profits a lot from conditions that I sincerely doubt MLK Jr would stand for, or his family if they knew about what has been reported. It's tangential, but hardly out of context that lots of people see such a connection, so there's probably maybe even a little validity do it?

Are you saying all workers should be slaves, serfs, disposable commodities and so on, with your boldfaced last line?

I'm no choir boy for any single entity, though I agree, or at least admit, it'd be nice to be one.

Yes, they do, so do others from their success. Shareholders, politicians and even the consumers buying
low labor priced products.
Difference is they are trying to monitor what is going on with fair labor in their factories, but to ask Apple to interfere with what is legally possible in other countries or solving all the world's problems is going to far.

One problem is that we apply Western standards to other cultures and then get upset when they don't match.
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Other companies are irrelevant, this is a forum where we discuss Apple, this article is specifically about something Apple is doing and most other companies don't try to use a national hero to make themselves look good.



The people who enforced segregation weren't breaking any laws either so why is MLK considered a hero and not just a troublemaker?
We can definitely expect better than just "not breaking any laws" from successful companies, especially one that puts itself (and has its fans put them) on the highest of horses.

I guess we disagree. Apple is not honoring MLK to make themselves look good.

Yes, we can expect better , like the iphone 7.

 

[sim667]

They already are diverse, and they sure as hell don't need some PC-loving shareholder to tell them to favor women and minorities for their board if they have other candidates that would fit the role better.

Clearly

 

[H2SO4]

Just love seeing people drop in on every thread anymore to drop the "Tax Turd" and move on. This, perhaps, is the result of poor education or sheltered world view. Either way, it's getting old.

Every public, for-profit corporation has the responsibility to its shareholders/stakeholders to use every legal means possible to protect it's profits while reinvesting in itself and providing a return on investment. Apple goes far beyond that by voluntarily donating significantly to charities and organizations that make a real difference in the world.

Voluntarily donating extra money to the US federal government, or other governments, by paying taxes they are not legally required to is not a donation I'd personally like to see companies like Apple make.

And if you can't see the reason a gay man from Alabama has a picture of MLK on his desk, you need to go back and study the civil rights movement.

Donating money that isn’t yours is very easy.
Also let’s be very simplistic and say that the $8B that they have likely ‘avoided’ is money due to the NHS. That’s a lot of research that no longer needs a charity like Cancer Research UK to do it. Again, a dead horse but those Apple employees are using the system, (roads/rail/police etc etc), that  are not paying their dues to.

I just love seeing a fanboy defence of a MASSIVE corporation not paying their way.

This act by them seems like double standards on moral grounds.

 

[nt5672]

Why does Apple glorify a womanizer who plagiarized a lot of his doctoral dissertation and was under FBI surveillance (I'll leave it a that)

Sounds like a presidential candidate I know, or at least some past presidents.

Surveillance does not mean he did anything wrong. Every male democratic president in recent history was a womanizer. Al Gore plagiarizes everything. These seem like pretty petty issues in this day and age, especially when compared to the message he was assassinated for.

 

[Paradoxally]

Clearly

What's your point? Let's all replace the white people with women and minorities just because? Please, focus on something more important. I hope the shareholders reject this ridiculous proposition.

Apple is one of the most diverse companies. Changing people at the top just for the sake of it (aka pleasing SJW) is ludicrous.

 

[bpeeps]

The only racist is luther himself, from listening to his speeches he didn't have a good thing to say about white people.

Here we go!

 

[Aragornii]

It is more appropriate for the public to refer to him as Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr rather than Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. You only refer to somebody as doctor so and so if they're a medical doctor, but for members of the clergy it's appropriate for members of the general public to refer to them as reverend so and so.

 

[bpeeps]

Doesn't Apple do this every year? Not sure why it's newsworthy.

It's newsworthy because MR mods know this post will create drama. Drama = clicks and ad rev.

 

[Aldaris]

So sick of oppressed Identity Politics.

Wasn't it MLK that said he had a dream where people would be judged by their character and not their color of their skin?

Exact quote:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

 

[bpeeps]

Are you talking about Lex Luther, or the show Luther on BBC?

Wouldn't surprise me if if it was Luther on BBC as well, given the obvious.

Wasn't it MLK that said he had a dream where people would be judged by their character and not their color of their skin?

Exact quote:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Where is this world? I'd like to be in it.

 

[Thunderhawks]

Donating money that isn’t yours is very easy.
Also let’s be very simplistic and say that the $8B that they have likely ‘avoided’ is money due to the NHS. That’s a lot of research that no longer needs a charity like Cancer Research UK to do it. Again, a dead horse but those Apple employees are using the system, (roads/rail/police etc etc), that  are not paying their dues to.

I just love seeing a fanboy defence of a MASSIVE corporation not paying their way.

This act by them seems like double standards on moral grounds.

It will be found out if that money is theirs.

Also using the systems are, foreigners, illegals, unemployed, drug abusers and and and. They pay no dues, whereas Apple pays payroll and corporate taxes in USA (and plenty) and enables it's employees to pay their dues.

You do know that Moral doesn't apply in/to business?

There are no longer any public outcries when American companies leave the slave like attitude of US 35% corporate taxes (the highest in the world)
The pace is quickening to leave for offshore corporate addresses and the politicians as usual cannot agree what to amend how fast.
And, they always try to do it backwards.

While I don't agree with illegal tax practices, I support legal tax practices and make a distinction between what
is fair vs. what is mandatory.
It is always interesting that people have no problem distributing other peoples money , but would ask anybody else to mind their own business if that shoe was on their foot.

BTW: The MASSIVE corporation Pfizer inversion = tax avoidance is valued at $ 160 Billion!

 

[bpeeps]

I really didn't think I would have to use a sarcasm tag at the end of my post, but I guess I might have to edit it for those whose sarcasm detectors are on the fritz.

Great post for sarcasm! Stun us with your wit.
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What's your point? Let's all replace the white people with women and minorities just because? Please, focus on something more important. I hope the shareholders reject this ridiculous proposition.

Apple is one of the most diverse companies. Changing people at the top just for the sake of it (aka pleasing SJW) is ludicrous.

Yes, because diversity translates to getting rid of all white people just because.

 

[bbeagle]

I don't have the knowledge and the resources to go around finding tax loopholes to avoid taxes. I go pay my taxes just like everyone. It is shame that these corporates do everything they can to avoid taxes while middle class pay their fairshare.

Apple isn't using any crazy tax loopholes. It's pretty obvious - they have to choose a country in the EU to operate from, and they chose the one with the cheapest tax rates. It's the same as companies moving to different states to pay lower taxes.

Do you complain that a company moving from New York to Delaware is a tax cheat? It's the same thing. Ireland is sort of a state in the EU

 

[farmboy]

Are you a journalist twisting things to make somebody look bad?

How about this journalistic marvel:

Why does Apple glorify a womanizer who plagiarized a lot of his doctoral dissertation and was under FBI surveillance (I'll leave it a that)

Just FYI it didn't take much back then to be under FBI surveillance. Commie, Nazi, agitator (women, student, black or any other nail sticking out of the board), or Hoover dress critic.

 

[nt5672]

Yes, because diversity translates to getting rid of all white people.

Diversity is and if itself just pure racism. I know that is not politically correct, but the fact is, diversity is used to select people based on race. And that is racism whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[Reds622]

The point being, if you had a way of paying less taxes, you would also be doing it. The Irish government simply has the lowest rates right now. For example, if the government doesn't tax savings in bank A but heavily taxes income in bank B, and if you saved all you money in bank A, is that "avoiding taxes?" This "fair" share you are talking about – how do you define "fair?" Is giving up more money than you have to "fair?" Do you wake up one day and have a sudden urge to pay more taxes? Apple pays all the taxes it owns from domestic sales and is simply keeping the overseas income stored in other countries. If you want your "fair" share of that money, you need to create a "fair" tax policy, in this case, one than is competitive to Ireland's. While I do agree that Apple has more money than it needs, I think no person or corporation should give up any more assets than it absolutely has to.

This is very simplistic view of the situation. Apple is engaging in a very sophisticated scheme, involving multiple countries in the European Union, IP Rights, and dummy management offices to avoid having to pay taxes on billion of dollars in revenue. They are the biggest tax avoider on the planet.

I think my problem is that it is no longer viewed as "patriotic" to pay income tax in this country. It's viewed as the government taking away my stuff. If it wasn't for the government existing, no one would have any stuff. I guess my point is that if Apple truly wants its company to pay the lowest possible in tax, then they should move their corporate headquarters to these places and actually manage the business from there. Tim Cook and the rest can go live in Ireland and pay all the low taxes it desires. But if you live in America, and enjoy the fruits of what living in America provides, then I don't think you should be actively trying to skirts it's laws on the margins by not paying what is pretty easily identifiable as a company's fair share of income tax. Companies are supposed to be taxed on their worldwide income. Not worldwide income that isn't pushed off shore through multiple countries to avoid it.

 

[Martyimac]

Good for you Apple!