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As a iPhone 13 mini user who will likely have to be dragged to a big phone, the 17 makes me very happy. It's going to be an amazing phone when later phones come out and it will hang around awhile.
If you don't upgrade cause of the better cam, it's ok.
 
If you have a decent eye for framing and composition you can usually do it on an iPhone, too.

My first digital camera was an Olympus D-600L with 1280x1024 resolution, so an iPhone doesn't seem as limiting to me as it seems to be for you.
Look I will explain what happened, so before they were cheap cameras like under 1000$ (CAD, like 700$ USD)... Well the iPhone beat them now and that's why it's difficult to find cams at this price...

So brands mostly make cams above 700US yes...

PS : if you wanna take a picture of an animal, well it can be hard to "frame" like you say... and you might need to zoom.
 
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I believe it says more about the changing media landscape and Apple's approach to it. Social media influencers and podcasters are now more important to the younger generations than traditional marketing was to mine. And Apple needs to generate interest among younger generations to maintain future growth.
This is exactly what it is. If you want to reach the largest audiences, you have to go through the influencers. This is who Gen-Z (and younger millennials) all watch and listen to. They don't watch TV, they don't do Facebook, Barely use Twitter/X, it's all TikTok, Instagram and to some extent YouTube as it facilitates the other two at times.
 
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For a second I thought he had the Apple Newton logo tattooed on his thumb 😆💡
 
When the maps on the rugged terrain are in liquid glass


two people are standing on the edge of a cliff with the words `` oops '' written on it .
 
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Look I will explain what happened, so before they were cheap cameras like under 1000$ (CAD, like 700$ USD)... Well the iPhone beat them now and that's why it's difficult to find cams at this price...

So brands mostly make cams above 700US yes...

PS : if you wanna take a picture of an animal, well it can be hard to "frame" like you say... and you might need to zoom.
I'm not sure why you are talking about cheap cameras. The D600-L was over $1000 because it was 1997. It was a fixed lens DSLR and considered high resolution for a consumer camera at the time. The Kodak DCS camera backs we had at work cost (tens of) thousands of dollars and were only around 3000x2000 resolution.

By the time I go grab my Canon, the animal has often moved on, so I'm happy if I am able to first grab a quick photo with the iPhone. The moon last night was moving slowly and works much better with a telephoto lens, so for that I always use my DSLR.

What I'm saying is the photo matters more than the equipment it was shot on. To say that a good camera on a phone has no purpose is the kind of extreme black and white thinking that makes forum conversations frustrating and will probably eventually make social media the decline of modern society.

See, you aren't the only one that can be hyperbolic. ;)
 
I'm not sure why you are talking about cheap cameras. The D600-L was over $1000 because it was 1997. It was a fixed lens DSLR and considered high resolution for a consumer camera at the time. The Kodak DCS camera backs we had at work cost (tens of) thousands of dollars and were only around 3000x2000 resolution.

By the time I go grab my Canon, the animal has often moved on, so I'm happy if I am able to first grab a quick photo with the iPhone. The moon last night was moving slowly and works much better with a telephoto lens, so for that I always use my DSLR.

What I'm saying is the photo matters more than the equipment it was shot on. To say that a good camera on a phone has no purpose is the kind of extreme black and white thinking that makes forum conversations frustrating and will probably eventually make social media the decline of modern society.

See, you aren't the only one that can be hyperbolic. ;)
Of course there always was expensive ones, but also we are not in 1997 anymore (I wasn’t even born at this time)
 
Of course there always was expensive ones, but also we are not in 1997 anymore (I wasn’t even born at this time)
Well, yes, your expectations of what is absolutely required to make a photo a real photo make that fairly obvious.

Some of my favourite photos are from very cheap film cameras. Yes, they could be sharper (and some would be nice to have in colour :eek:), but it is the subjects of those photo that matter, far more than the process and equipment used to take them. I also don't sit and listen to my favourite songs and think it would be a better song if recorded on a different microphone, although I was pretty caught up in recording tech earlier in my life and might have almost leaned that way.

Hopefully this will make sense to you some day, as it will mean you survived a long life. Simply use and enjoy the tools at your disposal. At some point in the future, someone younger than you will probably think those tools were insufficient even in their day. That is how the cycle of life works, if you live long enough to enjoy it.

Best of luck!
 
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