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it's always "very small number", I've heard that excuse so many times
Maybe because it always is a small number? When you sell very large numbers of product (like 300,000,000 units per year) many numbers are small relative to the people with zero issues.
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"very small amount"...just like the design defect with iphone 6.. right??
They literally sold over 400M iPhone 6 and 6s.

A design defect would have been catastrophic.
 
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Fair enough. But you'll miss out on perhaps the last of the best laptops Apple made... the 2017 MacBook Air. :)

I would take a 2018 Air over the 2017 one.
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"very small amount"...just like the design defect with iphone 6.. right??

We don’t know how much Airs percentage wise, but yeah, a very small amount of iPhone 6 devices had issues (compared to the number of devices sold). Oh, but take note, this does not apply for the MRF dimension, here it’s all catastrophic level, of course!
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Louis Rossmann™
Educating Sheep Since 2013

Rossmann is almost as annoying as people calling other people “sheep”.
 
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Apple has identified an undisclosed issue with the logic board in "a very small number" of 2018 MacBook Air units, according to an internal document distributed to Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers on Friday.

... like how the butterfly keyboard issues only affect a very small number of users ;)
 
Fair enough. But you'll miss out on perhaps the last of the best laptops Apple made... the 2017 MacBook Air. :)

I always forget that lived on, quietly, diligently, a non-butterfly hidden remaining gem in the lineup. You’re absolutely right; that’s the newest laptop I would consider, and very seriously actually, because I really liked everything about it. (Except the lack of a 1tb storage option.)

Many Apple notebooks had small batches of logic board issues in manufacturing runs, ever since the unibody models. It happens. Where have you been?

This is true; no stranger to catastrophic time bombs of the 2011 17” GPU problem or the iMac G5 capacitor problem long before that. However, this isn’t just one model for one year we’re talking about here. This has been a major fiasco including every laptop across every range they’ve ever made for 4 years.
 
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How can Apple identify an undisclosed issue?

That sentence makes absolutely no sense.

Apple can identify issues and not disclose them. But once they comment it’s no longer undisclosed.

Maybe it should say “Apple has recognised a previously undisclosed issue”
 
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Seems like a new era where Apple stuff isn’t built to last

Difference is everything disposable now is Made in China whereas Apple devices that were made and still running from over 30 years ago were Made in Japan, Ireland, USA, etc.
 
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Are they going to cover data recovery for an HD that is attached to the faulty logic board they allowed to get out and are "taking care of" so generously or are they going to blame someone for not backing up when it's their issue not the consumers.

All of this stuff always gets so much praise before any thought is REALLY put into it.
 
We charged you double for an inferior product. We promise to fix it, if you come looking for us.

If you paid for an out of warranty repair, too bad. We may say we will make it right, but we won’t. It is YOUR privilege to own and use Apple products.

You pay more for Apple gear, you SHOULD expect more, and get more. The fact they say they will fix it after the fact is really not to be praised any more, but criticized.

Enjoy carving that turkey up Tim. Hey, maybe you can reboot Compaq with all that cash....

The best part of your rant is that Apple hasn't said anything at all one way or another.
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it's always "very small number", I've heard that excuse so many times

They're repairing every affected unit for free, so how is that an excuse? And even if it is, how is it relevant?
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Difference is everything disposable is now Made in China whereas Apple devices that made over 30 years ago and still running were Made in Japan, Ireland, USA, etc.

Nostalgia must be fogging your brain.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/15/business/apple-california-manufacturing-history.html
 
Funny how Apple doesn't quantify numbers...
Tim Cook's fav: "Off the charts" ... what if the chart only goes to 1?
Issues reporting: "Very small number" ... 10 million is small if their chart goes to 1 billion.
 
It’s not just MacBooks... even the iPads are developing white spots all over the 10.5 screen.. Chinese junk. Apple refuses to acknowledge it too. Unreal.
Such a bold “claim”.
Apple designs bad hardware and let manufacturers build them. No matter how “high” quality control they have, the end product is still bad, unreliable and easy to break. If you want to blame, blame those engineers instead.
What design problem did the iPhone 6 have ?
*cough* bendgate *cough*
 
I really don't get this.
They are releasing for each line one to two "models" per year, at best.
They are a trillion dollar company.
Why can't they make computers which aren't affected by these faults?
I remember back at the turn of the century there were more than one computer companies (Windows based laptops) which had various issues with mainboards etc. With the years they managed to more or less almost erase any such issues from happening. Yes there is the occasional model that has issues, but we are talking among several companies with god knows how many different models released each year.

I just don't get what appears to be Apple either not being able (why?) or not caring (why?) to pay more attention to their computers.
 
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Difference is everything disposable now is Made in China whereas Apple devices that were made and still running from over 30 years ago were Made in Japan, Ireland, USA, etc.
Maybe that’s the time when people actually have time and effort to carefully design a product that is capable of running over 30 years? And they love their products more than today’s people?
I bet teenagers nowadays can throw away a maxed out iPhone XS Max without even thinking how much it worth. Or a maxed out cheese grater if they happen to have one. That’s how today’s disposable culture works.
Why can't they make computers which aren't affected by these faults?
Because they design a hardware that won’t last? Because they embrace bad internal design that won’t last?
What we should blame is design team really.
 
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Such a bold “claim”.
Apple designs bad hardware and let manufacturers build them. No matter how “high” quality control they have, the end product is still bad, unreliable and easy to break. If you want to blame, blame those engineers instead.

*cough* bendgate *cough*

*cough* was only an issue if you were a moron *cough*. My 6 is still perfect, as are all the others I’m aware of (hint: anecdote, just like bendgate).
 

You fail to understand the difference between quality, what I'm referring to, versus efficiency per the article. Apple II series was the peak of Apple quality and went downhill with Macintosh as efficiency increased as they're the inverse of each other much like cuisine food versus fast food. It's not uncommon for Apple II series to still run problem free nearly 40 years after they were made. Skinny jean hipster generation wasn't around to understand.
 
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So I’ve got a 2018 15” MBP and haven’t had any issues with it. Thus, based on my single experience I can unequivocally claim that all 2018 15” are perfect, and none have any issues.

While I doubt it, I hope the above illustrates the logically fallacy of most of the posts here claiming that ALL Apple laptops post 2015 are awful.
 
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Article does not describe symptoms.

I have the 2018 air. I have noticed some occasional visual artifacts on the laptop screen. Not sure if it’s related.
Same here. Waking up from sleep or opening the lid seems to cause some funky stuff happening.
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You can buy the platinum colored Surface Laptop2 for $799-. Bigger, better screen, quadcore processor.

If you bought an Air then you got ripped off.
But does it run MacOS? End of discussion.
 
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