Apple in Mobile Music Negotiations... for WWDC?

[Drewstin77]

already here

answer tones (wile annoying) are already available for iPhone users, i know because my friend and i both bought ours a few months ago & everytime i call him i hear that stupid "beautiful girls" song playing.

 

[Peace]

ummm. Wouldn't the answer tone kind of defeat the purpose of a ringtone ? They seem to counter each other.. I like to control my own phone thank you very much.

 

[tbobmccoy]

The best ringtones are snippets of old video game music, which are already compressed. I love hearing the final fantasy theme play when I answer my iPhone

 

[officerdick]

What will happen is when you buy an iPhone you get unlimited music downloads. There is going to be an "RIAA" tax on the iPhone, but the price will remain the same, and the music will be locked to the iPhone. TDC a danish tele-carrier just did this, free music for the costumers.

 

[djrobsd]

Answertones only annoy your friends

While these might be cute for teenagers, I think the average demographic of an iphone user is not going to be too into this answertone thing. I have it on my Verizon phone, and it annoyed all my friends so I finally turned it off. While they are cute and fun, they are kinda obnoxious too.

 

[genshi]

ummm. Wouldn't the answer tone kind of defeat the purpose of a ringtone ? They seem to counter each other.. I like to control my own phone thank you very much.

What!? You must have not read the whole thread otherwise you would have seen my post:

Q. Are Answer Tones different than Ringtones?
A. Yes, Answer Tones are different than Ringtones.

Ringtones are what you hear from your phone when someone calls you. Answer Tones are what your caller hears when they call your phone, in place of the standard ringing sound.

Ringtones are downloaded to your phone and stored within the handset. Answer Tones are stored on the AT&T network in a personal "library" that you can access and manage via the web or Media Net. And because your Answer Tones are stored on AT&T's servers (rather than downloaded to your handset), you can move your SIM card to another phone and your callers will still hear the Answer Tone you've selected for them.

Each Answer Tone will have an expiration date associated with it. As an Answer Tone's expiration date approaches, we will alert you via a free text message so that you may re-purchase another Answer Tone.

Because the Answer Tones service is provided on the AT&T network (unlike Ringtones), there is a monthly fee for service.

 

[MacFly123]

So is Big Music going to charge me more for a CD if I drive my own car to a music store instead of taking the bus?

What difference does it make to Big Music if I download a song over wi-fi or a cell network?

AMEN!!! They are such greedy idiots, all they think about is money and now they are going to jeopardize what would be a massive success.

From what I have heard the iTunes WIFI store has already done very well, if they made it work anywhere with 3G as well it would be even better. I have been waiting for this, and not only music, but later adding all video, movies, podcasts etc. to the iTunes (mobile) store. Come on Apple, don't let these greedy morons ruin everything!

 

[megfilmworks]

Sometimes it's amazing how people are willing to pay for crap like answer tones...

Kinda like Starbux$

 

[MacFly123]

I can't envision the pressing need to download songs directly to my iPhone.

Could someone please explain for me the scenario by which I really need this capability? I seriously don't get it.

I'm somewhere away from my computer (i.e. iTunes) and I hear a song that I just HAVE to have. I apparently didn't hear it on my iPhone, despite that's where most of my content comes from. Instead of just jotting down or noting the name of the song and artist and downloading it when I get home, I just HAVE to have it RIGHT NOW (despite the fact that I JUST HEARD IT.)

Why does this feel like a feature aimed at 9 year olds who just HAVE to hear that song 10 times in a row?

Seriously don't get this.

Welcome to the American lifestyle lol.

Your lack of vision is not allowing you to see that the iPhone is the future of mobile platforms and that virtually EVERYONE will have a mobile computing device like the iPhone soon that will fill many needs that a computer once did. So if you think it is not important to have media content distribution established on such a platform and devices then you seriously need to open your eyes a bit!

 

[Lixivial]

Could someone please explain for me the scenario by which I really need this capability? I seriously don't get it.

There are a lot more potential usages for this other than superfluous instant gratification (though that certainly doesn't hurt sales).

I can envision a system that integrates radio from the car into the iPhone allowing you to purchase or pull cover art/lyrics from iTunes on the fly. Maybe stream ahead, or backward a couple of songs. Or perhaps cross referencing the song you listened to on the radio, rating it, and throwing you 5 other songs you might enjoy from the iTunes store. Likewise, any other public place that plays music, such as bars, clubs, etc.

And that's really just scratching the surface of music, let alone other sorts of media/information.

Convergence of these once disparate systems into a mobile model is the key here, as opposed to fitting this new technology into the current business model.

 

[seashellz]

remastered BEATLES

 

[Ha ze]

I love that people can download from iTunes "over the air" if it's via wifi, but if it's via 3G or some other mobile phone network it should be more expensive?

Makes no sense. The download is still coming from an Apple/iTunes server and the connection is being made with at&t (or whoever) service, so in what part f that does the record company deserve more? I'd think at&t would deserve a slight per song cut more then the record company.

 

[megfilmworks]

I love that people can download from iTunes "over the air" if it's via wifi, but if it's via 3G or some other mobile phone network it should be more expensive?

Makes no sense. The download is still coming from an Apple/iTunes server and the connection is being made with at&t (or whoever) service, so in what part f that does the record company deserve more? I'd think at&t would deserve a slight per song cut more then the record company.

It's not the record label but the pipe. Att, in this case, may want a piece of the action if you are using their network.
What does that have to do with the record labels??

 

[winterspan]

I hate ringtones*. I hate hearing them. I hate the idea of paying for one. I hate them hate them hate them.

What is the point? Is anyone not annoyed when hearing a squawky compressed version of a song bleat out in the middle of a crowded room? I mean, if you like the song, you're annoyed it is so crappy sounding and played s short. If you hate the song, you're annoyed you have to listen to it. If you haven't heard it before, you aren't able to give it a good listen.

The only thing more annoying is the "let me sit here and jam to my ringtone" dork.

Did I mention I hate ringtones? You know what happens if I call you and instead of just subjecting everyone in your room to your ring tone, you also subject me to a static-laden clip of "Baby Got Back"? Yeah, that's right: I don't call you any more.

I completely agree. Why on earth did someone have to come up with such a TERRIBLE IDEA. I have always been annoyed by this crap and cannot understand why ANYONE would pay for such nonsense!

Seriously, for you ringtoners out there, why in the hell do you buy these things? Why would you want to hear 10 second music clips every time your phone rings? What is WRONG WITH YOU? What is the appeal? Do you realize you are annoying everyone around you?!?

As far as over-the-air downloads and the consequent money-grubbing of the major labels... I'm not going to comment (yet). That subject deserves a comprehensive treatise!

 

[jettredmont]

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I agree. +1.

Really, though, you need to learn what parody is. To spell it out: you complained about people filling your phone screen with low-content "vote" posts, yet your post was relatively low-content for its girth as well, an unintentional irony. The obvious response is a jibing parody, and that's what you got.

 

[GQB]

Welcome to the American lifestyle lol.

Your lack of vision is not allowing you to see that the iPhone is the future of mobile platforms and that virtually EVERYONE will have a mobile computing device like the iPhone soon that will fill many needs that a computer once did. So if you think it is not important to have media content distribution established on such a platform and devices then you seriously need to open your eyes a bit!

I'd agree if we were indeed at a point where the mobile platform was your sole platform.
But I'll suggest that my 'lack of vision' has more to do more with my total lack of interest in contemporary music (and any trace of need for immediate gratification) than my lack of technological vision.

I'll claim possession of taste rather than lack of vision.

 

[Ha ze]

It's not the record label but the pipe. Att, in this case, may want a piece of the action if you are using their network.
What does that have to do with the record labels??

Thats exactly my point. The articles I have read have said that the record companies will be using this as a negotiating point because they typically charge higher amounts for OTA downloads.

 

[Dmac77]

What is with people in America and our instant gratification fetish? Why must everything happen now, for christ sake, why would could i not wait a few hours until i get home to download a song off of itunes? especially when I am going to be charged extra not just by the pigs at the labels and by AT&T for bandwidth use?