He did not create anything,he just bought it.
From 2010 - 2014 it was known as WiMP https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMP
WiMP was relaunched as Tidal in 2014 by Norwegian/Swedish public company Aspiro,in 2015 JayZ bought it.
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Apple in Talks to Acquire Jay Z's Streaming Music Service Tidal
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From 2010 - 2014 it was known as WiMP https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMP
WiMP was relaunched as Tidal in 2014 by Norwegian/Swedish public company Aspiro,in 2015 JayZ bought it.
Just turned 5 last week, actually. What's it like to get your feelings hurt by a kindergartner?
Agree.... More bad money invested after bad. Let's be honest here. Even respected artists like Madonna are far past their prime. It's not really a "big deal" that she's signed on with Tidal. How many more hugely successful albums do you really expect her to put out?
And in the bigger picture? Why such an African-American hip-hop/rap heavy slant to Apple Music? Is nobody out there except rappers or former rappers who run today's music industry?
Maybe it's not the "politically correct" thing to say it ... but even the "Beats 1" streaming radio station Apple does has the overall feel that it's catering more to a young, urban audience who favors rap/hip-hop than anything else.
As someone who grew up listening to classic rock and continued liking the album-oriented rock, "progressive rock" and even "glam metal" along with heavy metal and much of the grunge scene, plus a lot of "alternative rock" and some punk -- I feel like my interests are better represented on many of the SiriusXM satellite stations than on Apple's music service.
Obviously, I'm not implying you can't find these types of music to download or stream on Apple Music. They have lots of variety. There's just this feeling that the people in CHARGE of the whole ball of wax don't care much about any of that, except for the fact it still makes money.
And in the bigger picture? Why such an African-American hip-hop/rap heavy slant to Apple Music? Is nobody out there except rappers or former rappers who run today's music industry?
Maybe it's not the "politically correct" thing to say it ... but even the "Beats 1" streaming radio station Apple does has the overall feel that it's catering more to a young, urban audience who favors rap/hip-hop than anything else.
As someone who grew up listening to classic rock and continued liking the album-oriented rock, "progressive rock" and even "glam metal" along with heavy metal and much of the grunge scene, plus a lot of "alternative rock" and some punk -- I feel like my interests are better represented on many of the SiriusXM satellite stations than on Apple's music service.
Obviously, I'm not implying you can't find these types of music to download or stream on Apple Music. They have lots of variety. There's just this feeling that the people in CHARGE of the whole ball of wax don't care much about any of that, except for the fact it still makes money.
Way to make it racial, not to mention that doesnt make sense. I mean who failed to win and is about to sell out here here?
[doublepost=1467399594][/doublepost]By the way I think this is a bad business move. Tim. Cooks. Apple.
Very true. Jay-z has been trying to sell it basically since he bought it, it makes hardly any money and is really an embarrassment.
So this is how it goes now Apple? Instead of using bank to innovate be a fat lazy cat, buy up the competition, bite off more than you can chew and make up the expense with lazy, half-conceived products that infuriate us? Beats headphones acquisition lead to phasing out the headphone jack, a streaming service that feels like its still in beta phase and a very rocky iTunes. Try improving your core products and services before pretending like you can handle more.
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Based on your posts, it's obvious that dogwhistle racism is your preferred language.
Yes, only 16 year olds like a three decade old genre. These young whippersnappers, I tells ya. Next, you'll be telling me some nonsense about this newfangled "punk rock" the kids are listening to.
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Anyway, this would be a good thing if only for fact that the amount of streaming services with exclusive access to content would be culled down to just one, making things less confusing for consumers.
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This has nothing to do about being a good purchase or bad purchase, it's all about acquiring competition and growing user base. Essentially this is a horizontal acquisition.
It helps being Russiansure, I am the only person on this planet who complained that's why they redesigned it after one year
Russian, really? of all languages? I can't even stand the sound of it when they talk. can't imagine listening to them sing
I don't see how this can make money for Apple. Almost all of the Tidal performers are past their prime. I don't think the Tidal catalog can be worth enough for the purchase.
Ok
Why would JayZ sell Tidal to Apple when the reason he relaunched it in the first place was because Apple and Spotify don't pay artists enough??
I'm right and you're wrong!
We have the stats. Google Play Music and TIDAL are running neck and neck.
Apple Music is at the bottom of the barrel regarding artist compensation. They pay em less than half what Google would.
If that is the case then Apple was truly negligent buying Beats Music just two years ago when the downward growth trend would have been apparent then. But, in fact, Spotify has been acquiring more and more paid subscribers every month this year so far as CD sales dwindle. That doesn't suggest slowing growth for the industry. Apple Music has had a bumpy start. Pandora's catalog is thin as is Amazon's. But those are company specific problems, not industry-wide warning signals.
Spotify will eventually burn itself out anyway if they can't figure out a way to actually make money. Not sure why everyone gives them so much credit. Apple Music would eventually beat them out through attrition regardless.
I think this is more of a move to acquire exclusives and possibly Jay-Z himself for Apple Music.
I think this is more of a move to acquire exclusives and possibly Jay-Z himself for Apple Music.
Quite frankly I used the term RAP generically, because sometimes it's hard to tell what kind of music they are playing. Is it hip hop? Is it Dance? Nevertheless a lot these guys claim that they are RAPPERS. Two examples
Not really. You are reading too much into my post. Were you personally offended by it or do you just disagree with it and felt the urge to attack?
what if part of the redesigned apple music includes a web interface? for me, that plus tidal exclusives like prince would be amazing.
There is a school of thought that says Apple should buy Tidal, not because they need them. But they should so no one else would. Right now Tidal is a pain in Apple's arse because artist sign exclusives that they believe should have went to Apple Music.
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
While I agree with you that people do not care about quality sound I wonder if Apple will push lossless to justify the move to lightning headphones with built in DACs. It's a bag of crazy but how else will Apple justify a move like that with zero benefit to the consumer?
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I think Apple is doing a tremendous job of appealing to a very young audience while simultaneously stripping itself of the older loyal base of users as well as any professional users. They can make more money this way.
I agree. MQA is a cool idea, too bad many people (at forums/discussions) still don't get it and many companies (for their own reasons) still don't endorse it. This could change if Apple decides lossless is the way to go. I really hope Apple gets in the game and doesn't just use Tidal for getting exclusive artists I don't really care about. While Beats acquisition made no sense at all, Tidal could benefit both Apple and customers.
On the other hand, Apple being Apple, they might do it to just to catch Spotify and lock the API to Apple products or commercial solutions (i.e. the usual lame Windows port or the boring Android player).
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I hope they do not plan to make Apple Music "HD". It should be common sense that it's useless. 16-bit 44.1 KHz is enough forever. Lossless maybe, but it should have much greater compression ratio. Do they just want me to waste my data faster?
Yup! That is exactly it. Once the young audience moves to the next thing Apple will be out of tricks and out of money. Maybe Jay-Z will be CEO for a while...long enough to get the company delisted from the market. Dre will be CFO (he'll spend all the money thats left) and they'll get Eminem to replace Eddy Cue. WWDC 2020 will be off the hook! Lil Wayne could be the director of marketing!
Tidal has the same catalog as everyone else. The clear value would be the lossless streaming infrastructure and possibly their announced move to MQA encoding.