Huh? Safari is just a portal to the web, to websites. Google is already serving ad on websites. 🤷🏻♂️
Search is for collecting data, not for serving ad.
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Search is for collecting data, not for serving ad.
Or, it's the wrong train and Apple are quite happy standing on the platform waiting for the next one.
Every interaction I've had with AI has been at best emotionless, banal and facile. At worst, it's been plain wrong.
Please clarify if you think that Google will serve ads on the web even if Bing is the search engine? So, if I change the default search engine on my Safari to Bing, will I see Google Ads or Bing Ads?
That’s quite fascinating!!Not the OS, but to use their services GMS (Google Mobile Services).
Google to charge Android OEMs as much as $40 per phone in EU
After the EU ruling, OEMs can unbundle Google’s Android apps, but it will cost them.arstechnica.com
In other areas, it charges diffrently.
The EU wouldn’t allow Google to charge for an alternate os install that allowed alternate browsers and default search engines. Unless they charged for all os installs through the EU.
The idea that the os is free to manufacturers is irrelevant to the EU. Android is a gateway and will be forced to comply on every version of their os in the EU.
Apple was busy drawing new emojis like all those pregnant males 🫃🫃🏻🫃🏼🫃🏽🫃🏾🫃🏿 while the AI train moved LOUDLY past them
The ad for search is one thing but you assume that’s just only one revenue from Safari which I think iswrong. Id imagine they include every ad they’re getting from Safari from search and otherwise. That’s why the number is so big.
As for ATT it’s for tracking across the devices, not the web as far as I understand. I don’t think Apple can prevent Google to know what the search is, right?
One of the main reasons I buy Apple products is Google isn't integrated in the OS. This would be a terrible idea.
Not sure how much AI I want on my iPhone, particularly if it comes from Google. I just quit Fitbit to avoid having to make a Google account. I'd want a way to block Google from getting any information about me.
They charge for the Google Mobile Services license but that was just one of many items I listed. My point was that Google charges for a number of things, including many of the same types of things Apple does.
Additionally, Apple has shifted from charging for various software items to offering them for "free." MacOS upgrades used to cost money but are now "free." GarageBand, iMovie, Keynote, Pages and Numbers all used to cost money but are now "free." Yes, these software items typically (some can be accessed through iCloud without an Apple device) require an Apple device which costs money but this is still a shift from when Apple directly charged for the software. Apple also used to give away software like Safari for Windows (2007 to 2012) for free that didn't require paying for an Apple device.
Google isn't the only one in the "free" software game as Apple is and has been for many years too. Also, if Apple were to get into the web search business, I imagine they'd operate similarly to Google, Bing, etc.
I was be marginally sarcastic. In the car I only use Siri for loading directions. Far too often when asked a question while driving she replies, “Check it out.” At home Alex is perfect for me. I fired Siri long ago.
Ah, no. Even OpenAI's ChatGPT is a way better solution, especially given the disastrous initial rollout of Gemini AI.
Makes sense. Apple are way behind everyone else. OpenAI/Microsoft and Google are at the top. Apple might be working on their own model/infrastructure but it's NOT going to be ready for iOS 18 later this year. Maybe iOS 19 next year.
So yeah it's not surprising if they want to work with others until they scale up themselves.
I don't see Apple working with Microsoft and getting access to OpenAI so Google really is the only option for them.
So yeah it's not surprising if they want to work with others until they scale up themselves.
I don't see Apple working with Microsoft and getting access to OpenAI so Google really is the only option for them.
Apple isn't getting near OpenAI as long as Microsoft are invested in them. MS invested over $11 billion so I don't think Microsoft wants to give Apple any of it lol.
Sorry, 18b is 36%. I got confused with the placement of comma (,). In our region, it means six thousand four hundred billion. We use dot (.) to denote decimals. So, I would have understood if you had said 6.400 billion. In any case the total revenue is not 18b, it is the 36% of the total Safari revenue. Apologies.
I really dont want either company's product on my phone tbh. Much prefer the relative privacy afforded by Apple's implementations of various features and AI would be no different. If either technology gets rolled into something like Siri hopefully it at the very least is an instance on a server separate from others with adjustments made to improve privacy and isolate user data such that Google or Open AI cant scoop it up.
Mind giving us all what makes you think that?
AI isn't going anywhere. It's largely a marketing gimmick but the actual tech is real and extremely promising/dangerous however you want to look at it.
If this is true, Tim Cook completely missed the boat on the next big thing and has to resign. Steve Jobs left him Siri, years ahead of Alexa and a decade ahead of chatGPT. It was incredible for its time. Tim couldn't see it. He left it, paid it no attention, until we got to the point where we are now and conversational UI is obvious to everyone and he finally sees it.
Steve's biggest gift was being a visionary. He could see how technologies would converge and how society would use them, years and decades in advance. Tim Cook is a very competent operations guy. The risk to Apple is that he wouldn't see what's coming and when it got here, Apple would be behind. What I said more than a year ago:
I ended with this:
Unfortunately, this is proving true.
Steve's biggest gift was being a visionary. He could see how technologies would converge and how society would use them, years and decades in advance. Tim Cook is a very competent operations guy. The risk to Apple is that he wouldn't see what's coming and when it got here, Apple would be behind. What I said more than a year ago:
I ended with this:
Unfortunately, this is proving true.
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You said that it was ‘concrete evidence’. What else does that mean? It’s a rumour. It’s not concrete at all.
Yes, they made this change to satisfy the EU. Earlier, they were giving away some of the Google services free. Now they charge a lumpsum for all their services per devices to circumvent the "self-preferencing" charge.
Why would Micrososft be worse than Google in this way? Google has Android and Chromebooks which both are in their own ways bigger threats to Apple than anything Microsoft is producing right now in the consumer market. I think Microsoft is more than happy to have services/software that are being used on other OSes. Office is a prime example as well as their move to go cross platform with their games with Xbox. Additionally they have a pretty big interest in things like Azure right now too. Windows is starting to be their least important product and they have no skin in the phone game. To me it seems like a much clearer win-win and way to edge out Google from overtaking Open AI's current lead in the space.
If you're so worried about Google you should probably leave the internet. You seriously need to try very hard and go out of your way to avoid Google if you use the internet (trust me I tried it).
Apple could make a deal with them to protect privacy but let's not kid ourselves on here...Apple doesn't care about your privacy. If they did then they'd not use Google as their default search engine. All Apple cares about is money and they can try fool everyone thinking they are a privacy focused company. If you think they are then you fell for the marketing ********.
You don't use anything Apple, Google, Microsoft if you care about privacy.