Because Gemini is garbage and if they want to improve it they need people to use it? If Apple has to pay they’d be better served with Copilot, something at least functional; and way better than that with ChatGPT, where even if they only got 3.5 they’d be miles ahead. That’s why Google would pay.
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Because Gemini is garbage and if they want to improve it they need people to use it? If Apple has to pay they’d be better served with Copilot, something at least functional; and way better than that with ChatGPT, where even if they only got 3.5 they’d be miles ahead. That’s why Google would pay.
So they’re paying Apple 6,400+ billions. Wow.Only answering the last sentence. Google does not actually pay a fixed amount to Apple. They pay a percentage of the revenue they get from the search engine in Safari. They get the rest of the 64%. That is how Google is benefiting from the deal too.
Google admits to paying Apple 36% of Safari revenue – after witness lets figure slip
Google's lead lawyer "visibly cringed" when the exact figure was accidentally revealed during the federal antitrust trial.searchengineland.com
Well... that's over-simplifying things to the point of being wrong.
These guys can explain it better:
Google Says It Doesn’t 'Sell' Your Data. Here’s How the Company Shares, Monetizes, and Exploits It.
"Google will never sell any personal information to third parties; and you get to decide how your information is used." - Sundar Pichai Sound familiar? Although big tech companies like Google keep the lights on by harvesting and monetizing your personal data, they can be quick to mince words and...
Well, Paris bought Neymar, Messi and Mbappé and they've never won the Champions League 🤣In another post that said Apple bought DarwinAI as the 30th company, somebody said Apple will lead the AI revolutionize the AI scenario because it had bought 30 companies and it will turn out to be the dark horse. Looks like it is not happening.
Exactly. Google will be getting all that ‘default search engine’ money back realllll fast.
Apple wasted their man power on the car and the Vision Pro.
I can't imagine that Apple will use Google's Ai technology.
And I don't think Google will give it to Apple that easily either.
That Google AI would be a very good unique selling point for Android.
I think there will be an AI interface similar to the search provider selection for Safari.
Apple has to introduce something of its own regarding AI for iOS 18, anything else would be embarrassing.
I was about to post something similar, but fromWell... that's over-simplifying things to the point of being wrong.
These guys can explain it better:
Google Says It Doesn’t 'Sell' Your Data. Here’s How the Company Shares, Monetizes, and Exploits It.
"Google will never sell any personal information to third parties; and you get to decide how your information is used." - Sundar Pichai Sound familiar? Although big tech companies like Google keep the lights on by harvesting and monetizing your personal data, they can be quick to mince words and...www.eff.org
How to Stop Google From Selling My Data? - JoinDeleteMe
I really wanted to find out how to stop Google from selling my data until I learned that Google doesn’t sell your personal information per se.
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You do know Google is actively building a quantum computer right? No smoke and mirrors, it’s actually doing it. And AI exists, where is the ‘BS’ in it all?
Apple stormtroopers will always vote you down, if you tell em the truth about Apple. But the only thing critics like me want to achieve is that Apple changes and thinks different again.
Faults like missing AI or cloud (compared to Google, Amazon or Microsoft) are major fails. You cannot call Apple innovative just just because it integerates a new camera in the next "best iPhone ever". It Apple wants to survive it has to change and guys like Tim and Phil have to leave.
Developing a LLM is one thing. But Apple needs to train it and this takes an impressive amount of time. Months when we're talking about GPT-4. After the training completed you have periods of testing, evaluation, and fine-tuning. After a year you may have version 1 - if you own enough GPU power.
I doubt that very much, because that would be linking to google search which already exists. What would Gemini add?
In all likelihood, Gemini's response will be in audio just as Siri, but perhaps differentiated in some way (different voice, or a Gemini intro?)
Time will tell.
Ai has so far only really been seen on niche devices such as the Pixel 8 or S24 Ultra. Whilst these devices might get the most mindshare they are only a very small single digit percentage of global sales.
Apple are in a position to, as they always do take a piece of niche technology mainstream and standardise it. NFC payments existed long before the iPhone 6 yet it was Apple Pay that managed to turn it into part of daily life.
Every image rinsed through Google's servers is likely also used for AI training through object recognition and EXIF data scraping. Apple will be wanting to make sure nothing escapes iOS.
They don't give "everything" away for free. Google hardware costs money (e.g., Pixel phones, watches, buds, Nest products, etc.). Google premium subscription products cost money (e.g., Photos, Drive, Play Pass, YouTube TV/Music/Premium, Nest Aware, Gemini Advanced, etc.). Google charges Android-based phone makers for Google Mobile Services license. Google charges money for many of the same types of things Apple does.
So Google charges Android manufacturers to use their os and put Google search at the heart of 90% of phones. One would wonder why quid pro quo doesn’t come into effect here.
Obvs when it comes to hardware I agree. I was talking about software
Actually S24's series sales saw a decent jump vs previous generation and the user reception to these new AI feature was positive so it's a guarantee Samsung, Google and the rest of the Android OEM will double their efforts in respects to AI.
The market is not waiting for Apple to standardize anything. The direction on the mobile has already been set and Apple is just a follower.
You are giving them way too much credit.
Tim Cook needs to retire now, he has dropped the ball.
Slap in the fact for people who are trying to stay away from the Google listening in on conversations and recording keystrokes.
All that will be over if this happens.
All that will be over if this happens.
Apple wants to use Gemini despite the latter's recent (and somewhat scandalous) problems? Now that should lead to some really exciting news articles in the near future, after all the teens with iPhones decide to see just how far they can push Google's new AI features on their phones.
At this point, I imagine OpenAI would be the far safer choice, if for no other reason than it's handled far more (mis)use without anything really crazy happening.
At this point, I imagine OpenAI would be the far safer choice, if for no other reason than it's handled far more (mis)use without anything really crazy happening.
Either Apple is more behind in the AI game than they're letting on publicly or else they see a chance to force Google's hand in negotiations to expand its Gemini platform. Another reason to take anything Cupertino says with a grain of salt until it's formally announced in a product/platform/service*.
That said: Google? Somethingsomething PRIVACY.... how they're going to walk that fine line will be very telling about their 'privacy' pledges. Unless they truly keep it all on-device and do NOT share user data with Google, they violate that trust expectation that they themselves allegedly cling to --- and will lose customers very, very quickly.
* Remember, only one App Store was implemented for 'security reasons' - it wasn't a monopoly, nosiree! But thanks to the EU, it's clear that was all just a PR line to justify its app-store monopoloy and 30% cut of sales.
