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Apple Inc and Apple Corps Form New Trademark Agreement
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This reminds me of an article I once read on F1 racing drivers' taste in music - Phil Collins crept up a worrying number of times...
He's another one on my 'music for people who don't like music' list.
erm...what's this holiday - sorry "Holiday 2007" - of which you speak? We don't get Valentine's day as a holiday in the UK - do you?
Not sure Apple as record label would be a good idea
I'm not sure that would be a good idea. What you say sounds good, but consider the difficulty of Apple negotiating with other record labels for setting iTunes Store policy. They'd be negotiating with the competition.
I'm not sure that would be a good idea. What you say sounds good, but consider the difficulty of Apple negotiating with other record labels for setting iTunes Store policy. They'd be negotiating with the competition.
Apple couldn't sign any band that has a contract with someone else, period. But they can sign bands with contracts that have expired or new, as yet unsigned ones.
By the time digital downloads surpass CDs in sales, Apple will be in position to become the biggest record company, if they so choose.
Agreed. For that reason, Apple may well have no interest in becoming a record label.
However, the competition might not be very competitive. Unlike movies with their big budgets, records with the benefit of Macs running Logic or ProoTools can be made for, please pardon me, a song. The only value today's record companies offer is in promotion. But that too can change -- iTunes is one of the most visited sites on the net, and if you throw a potential partnership with Google in the mix, Apple could promote bands much better than their existing labels ever did.
Most bands hate their labels as they get cheated out of the vast majority of the revenue their music generates. If Apple were to offer them a 50/50 split on iTunes revenue they would have a lot of takers.
The TV networks/studios seem to navigate this terrain pretty well, but that's a whole different deal. The networks/studios often make shows that appear on competitor's networks, but that's a market where no one has the kind of market share Apple does in online music sales.
ABC can put a show like "Scrubs" on NBC because it's profitable for ABC (and NBC) to do that, but Apple is effectively the only online market for the record labels.
TV shows might make more sense. I could see Apple pulling together a production deal with some brand-name talent to produce, say, a sitcom that's only available on
TV. Apple would control the secondary rights, so they could theoretically release it on DVD, syndicate it on cable, etc. The networks would have less of a problem with this than the record labels would Apple signing up John Mayer because TV is not concentrated on a single network or platform.EDIT:
That said -- and after reading some other posts -- I could see Apple as a home for independent record producers. The labels are essentially promoters/distributors and are largely unnecessary if there are other effective means for distributing and promoting.
The labels will argue that the next Green Day or Beyonce is never going to emerge without a label that is willing to spend the money to bring the artist along, e.g., buy space in Rolling Stone, place the song on "Grey's Anatomy," etc. I'm not sure I buy it.
Thats cool and all but because they will be bringing the beatles over does that mean more incentives for customers? lower prices?
Thats what i mean, i see people making a big deal out of this like if they will eat better because apple can finally release the beatles music on itunes.
Shoulndt they concentrate more on the "secret" features leopard will have?
or are they just giving in to and letting the operating system slowly slip away?
I see news like this and i start to miss apple computers. tHEIR WHOLE FOCUS WAS BASED ON computing, this new apple inc is just so not exciting. I mean i rather pay for a physical copy and rip it.
Instead of being tied down to an ipod which i personally think is piece of crapple.
I swear RIApple whines so much that people are stealing their ideas that it has to be a diversion so no one will notice that they almost never have an original idea.. The idea for every RIAApple product came from somewhere else. I'm not saying they could 'never' come up with an original idea but it's pretty darned rare.
Ok, ok, she can't act, but she DOES have talent as far as singing is concerned. The other points you make. That's all in the eye of the beholder.
I see the fact that Apple are keeping quiet about OS related stuff as a good thing. I don't understand the negativity when Apple do other things.. Oddly enough Apple have entirely different teams of people working on legal stuff to software development. It's not a case of concentrating on one thing to the detriment of another.
This whole Beatles thing is great for a lot of people and isn't doing any harm.
10.5 will come when it comes. Apple haven't rested on their laurels for years and aren't likely to start now.
It's not a case of concentrating on one thing to the detriment of another.This whole Beatles thing is great for a lot of people and isn't doing any harm.
10.5 will come when it comes. Apple haven't rested on their laurels for years and aren't likely to start now.
The trademark now belongs to Apple Inc. on the public pieces of paper, but that doesn't mean they can do whatever they please with it now. There is also the new contract with Apple Corps, and no one here knows what its terms are because the two Apples aren't telling.
Um...so other than the Beatles who did Apple Corp. represent? Also, didn't Apple Corp. close in the 70's? If they did why would it matter to them about the name?
As if Apple Crops actually does anything since the Beatles broke up. They don't even have signed artists.
Apple Corps was created by the Beatles to manage their own affairs (among other things) and still exists to manage the licensing of Beatles music and other related Beatles products
If you look at any of the original Apple Corps. Beatle's LP's you will see an apple core.It is no accident.
What is Holiday 2007?
I don't know.. I saw it used as the release date for the Zune phone in an earlier MacRumors story, so I assumed it must be the upcoming holiday. If not Valentine's, then maybe Easter?
Because I looked up holiday in the dictionary, and all it said is that holiday is a holiday.
Huh, now that I think about it, maybe "Holiday 2007" is some kind of communist euphemism for Christmas?
We don't get Valentine's day as a holiday in the UK - do you?
I don't know.. I saw it used as the release date for the Zune phone in an earlier MacRumors story, so I assumed it must be the upcoming holiday. If not Valentine's, then maybe Easter?
Because I looked up holiday in the dictionary, and all it said is that holiday is a holiday.
Huh, now that I think about it, maybe "Holiday 2007" is some kind of communist euphemism for Christmas?
LOL There was a news story in the UK a few years ago about some local government authority re-naming Christmas as "Winterval"
You couldn't make it up!LOL There was a news story in the UK a few years ago about some local government authority re-naming Christmas as "Winterval"
And then there was the year that Boxing Day was moved forward a day because it couldn't be a bank holiday on a Sunday...
Actually, I think Americans are the biggest culprits here - saying 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Happy Christmas'
In time for the 2007 Holidays? This refers to the holiday season (beginning in November and running through New Year's Day).
Not exactly. It encompasses Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus, the Winter Solstice, and everything else piled into the last couple months. "The Holidays" constitutes the major retail sales period and is the traditional period to introduce new products (for example, new model year cars, although the release dates have been creeping forward in the past decade). If you're familiar with the phrase, "Happy Holidays," this is what they're talking about. Some people call it the Christmas season, some people call it late Autumn, some people call it Winter (though technically it's not Winter in either hemisphere for the bulk of the season).
Unlike the linking of the Roman's Saturnalia Festival with Jesus Christ you mean?LOL There was a news story in the UK a few years ago about some local government authority re-naming Christmas as "Winterval"