I completely agree as well. Most people tend to behave in the manner they are treated so if piracy has become more prevalent it's no surprise. In the end, industries supporting DRM can only hurt themselves - it will be a long, slow process before they've earned back the respect of the majority public who would otherwise be law abiding.
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Apple Incorporates HDCP (Copy Protection) in New Laptops
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I completely agree as well. Most people tend to behave in the manner they are treated so if piracy has become more prevalent it's no surprise. In the end, industries supporting DRM can only hurt themselves - it will be a long, slow process before they've earned back the respect of the majority public who would otherwise be law abiding.
Of course, there's the excellent and affordable Intensity Pro, all you need is an HDCP stripper and the whole dark Apple-MPAA/RIAA-mob alliance can go and **** themselves.
Can you tell me how to do this?? I'm a new Mac user and I have no idea how to do anything?? Thank you so much
Can you tell me how to do this?? I'm a new Mac user and I have no idea how to do anything?? Thank you so much
Handbrake is the option I would recommend. I believe there are others, but it is the one I use.
Can you tell me how to do this?? I'm a new Mac user and I have no idea how to do anything?? Thank you so much
Get Fairmount (to decrypt) and Handbrake (to transcode), both are free.
I don't understand this. Fairmount uses VLC to decrypt the dvd image, but Handbrake will do the same thing if VLC is installed. Therefore why do you need Fairmount when using Handbrake? All you need is to have VLC installed.
EDIT: Personally I rip my dvd's first using RipIt (used to use Mac The Ripper) so that I get a video_ts structure, and then use Handbrake in batch/queue mode at night to run several encryptions at once. This way I always have my video_ts in case the dvd gets ruined and I have to burn another one; the bad part is that it takes up a lot of space, but you can always delete it afterward if you don't want to keep it around.
Well, wasn't aware of that. I use MTR3, or DVDFab for those that MTR cannot handle. But MTR3 is hard to come by, unless you ask the right person.
Actually I haven't tried it myself, I was just going by Handbrake's release notes for 0.9.3:Well, wasn't aware of that. I use MTR3, or DVDFab for those that MTR cannot handle. But MTR3 is hard to come by, unless you ask the right person.
This could be any device that supports the High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) handshaking protocol. Wikipedia's link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
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I just downloaded Mac the Ripper, is there any reason u decided to quit using that and start using rip it. I haven't used it yet... just getting ready to tonight. Oh.. and off the subject question if its okay... when you move a program to the trash does it get rid of it completely? Or do you have to uninstall it, and if so, how do you uninstall programs?? Thank you
I just downloaded Mac the Ripper, is there any reason u decided to quit using that and start using rip it. I haven't used it yet... just getting ready to tonight. Oh.. and off the subject question if its okay... when you move a program to the trash does it get rid of it completely? Or do you have to uninstall it, and if so, how do you uninstall programs?? Thank you
I had Mac the Ripper 2.x (the free/PPC version), but it kept crashing on me. It would usually rip OK but the crash at random. Reports are that the 2.x version can't rip the newer releases, which didn't really bother me since most of what I like is older stuff anyway, but this could be an issue that drives you to the newer MTR 3.x version. I tried the demo of RipIt and liked what I saw (it ripped cleanly and with no crashes) so I bought it. It has no options except for the destination directory. They may be adding encoding into a later release.I just downloaded Mac the Ripper, is there any reason u decided to quit using that and start using rip it. I haven't used it yet... just getting ready to tonight. Oh.. and off the subject question if its okay... when you move a program to the trash does it get rid of it completely? Or do you have to uninstall it, and if so, how do you uninstall programs?? Thank you
Dragging applications to the trash is the 'normal' way to uninstall apps on the Mac, but it doesn't work for all apps; some come with their own uninstallers which must be used instead. Anyway, when you move something to the trash it is in a temporary location where you can recover it or do whatever you want with it; unfortunately there is no automatic restore like in Windows. You can permanently delete from the trash by selecting or clicking "empty".
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Well thank you This MacForum thing is cool... sorry just started using it not too long ago and have learned everything on here... you ppl are smart... haha! Welp thanks again... I'll try to figure out the rip it thing
Well thank you
This MacForum thing is cool... sorry just started using it not too long ago and have learned everything on here... you ppl are smart... haha! Welp thanks again... I'll try to figure out the rip it thing what do you mean "and then use Handbrake in batch/queue mode at night to run several encryptions at once" what is batch/queue? And what Format, Video Codec, framerate, quality, and picture setting should I put for the best quality? Sorry lots of questions I know... but thank you for taking the time to help me!!
When Handbrake is started it asks to open a file to convert, and you select the file or rip that you want. Handbrake then scans the file and lets you select a bunch of settings; I just use the default AppleTV setting. You can add this to the queue with the icon "Add to Queue" in the toolbar. You can proceed to select several encode jobs in this way, adding each to the queue. When you are done, clock "Start" to start the jobs in the queue, and as each one is done the next will start. This is a great way to start seceral jobs and let them run overnight while the computer would otherwise be idle.what do you mean "and then use Handbrake in batch/queue mode at night to run several encryptions at once" what is batch/queue? And what Format, Video Codec, framerate, quality, and picture setting should I put for the best quality? Sorry lots of questions I know... but thank you for taking the time to help me!!
Please note that if you are running this on a laptop like I do you may need to open it (don't use clamshell mode) as heat can cause problems if the lid is closed.
HDCP is required for several reasons.
As several people has pointed out, Blu-Ray licensing requires that HDCP be supported. It's a lot worse than that, though.
There have been several posts about ripping DVD's, but most of the HDCP issues relate only to HD content. Personally, I suggest just skipping the HD bandwagon (which i am quite happy to avoid getting hooked on).
Many of the HD-supporting technologies require a license from the manufacturer, and most of the key licenses require HDCP support as well as other kinds of pretty heavy DRM. Even worse, there DRM technologies have nastier potentialities that have not yet been activated, but which can be "turned on" later, adding still more restrictions. I read about a lot of this in a book on Digital TV Technologies ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0980991501 ). Oddly, even though the stuff I read essentially promotes advanced HD technologies and even DRM, the net result was to make me aware of the trap it sets, and thus try to avoid HD completely. It's really a big sinkhole that will prevent all kinds of totally legal media exchange even between different devices owned by the same person. I don't want to sound conspiratorial, but the interlocking licenses needed for HD content decoding and display assure than the media companies will be totally in control, and a company like Apple can do nothing about it.
As several people has pointed out, Blu-Ray licensing requires that HDCP be supported. It's a lot worse than that, though.
There have been several posts about ripping DVD's, but most of the HDCP issues relate only to HD content. Personally, I suggest just skipping the HD bandwagon (which i am quite happy to avoid getting hooked on).
Many of the HD-supporting technologies require a license from the manufacturer, and most of the key licenses require HDCP support as well as other kinds of pretty heavy DRM. Even worse, there DRM technologies have nastier potentialities that have not yet been activated, but which can be "turned on" later, adding still more restrictions. I read about a lot of this in a book on Digital TV Technologies ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0980991501 ). Oddly, even though the stuff I read essentially promotes advanced HD technologies and even DRM, the net result was to make me aware of the trap it sets, and thus try to avoid HD completely. It's really a big sinkhole that will prevent all kinds of totally legal media exchange even between different devices owned by the same person. I don't want to sound conspiratorial, but the interlocking licenses needed for HD content decoding and display assure than the media companies will be totally in control, and a company like Apple can do nothing about it.
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Apple can do what Sony did and buy some media companies (start with Disney). Then they can have their say just like every other content owner.
Apple can do what Sony did and buy some media companies (start with Disney). Then they can have their say just like every other content owner.
In my opinion, the studios are far too consolidated and far too expensive to allow much in sales. Many of the major studios are multi-billion dollar companies and are owned by companies many times larger than Apple is. We also have to consider that their business relations right now are such that competition might look at media acquisition by in a negative light and drop whatever relationship they already have. I honestly do not think that competing studios are going to work together on a ventureship that is going to benefit one company signifangly. As it stands, the music companies think that Apple allready has too much power allready.
I can see Apple being on the board a la Disney, but that's not going to give them as much power. Studios are going to stick with DRM because people put up with it and they control the content. If DRM becomes economically unfeasable, than it might change, but don't hold your breath.
When you have content that costs hundreds of millions of dollars to make, any investor is going to be very opposed to loosing control of it.
Now take everything you just typed and think of Sony Blu-Ray and the PS3.
Now tell me again why Apple can't do the same thing?
Too bad for you, I guess. Enjoy crappy SD video. I can't stand non-HD these days on my 93" screen. I don't even watch TV outside the HD stations anymore. I can barely stand to watch my old DVDs and they don't look terrible by a long shot with that projector. It's just that HD looks SO much better it's not even funny. I mean your argument reminds me of Linux. I have Linux installed on my PC along with Windows, but due to the utter lack of commercial software, there's some things it simply cannot do. So I'm stuck with either OS X or Windows and both of them have things they cannot do or don't do well. So in actuality, I have all three.
Apple has too darn much control as it is, IMO. Do you seriously think for one split second even that Apple wouldn't jam the same crap down our throats if they WERE in control? Apple is one of the most controlling companies I know of. They don't want to play nice with anyone or compete with anyone for that matter. They won't license fairplay so other companies can utilize iTunes. They won't license OS X so other companies can fill the huge gaping holes in their hardware lineups. Apple would be FAR WORSE if they had any control over things like HDCP or Blu-ray, IMO.
That's exactly right. I had the free version of Mac the Ripper (which is PPC) and it kept crashing on me after it decoded the disc; fortunately I never found a bad decode; However RipIt is Universal, about the same speed, very simple, and never crashes. To me it was worth the $18.
Seriously peeved
I want to add my voice to lost of seriously peeved people with this.
I have had an Apple TV for a awhile now. Been purchasing movies through ITMS and have been watching them on my Sharp Aquos TV via HMDI.
Well, last night I purchased Snatch and started watching it. Then I paused it, came back, and got this message that the display was not HDCP authorized.
Now, I can't watch this movie, but I can watch my other movies. Note again, these are movies also purchase through ITMS. So, what do I have to do? Also hook up a non-HDMI connection to my TV? What bullcrap is that.
I'll let you know what I hear from Apple, because this is seriously not right.
I want to add my voice to lost of seriously peeved people with this.
I have had an Apple TV for a awhile now. Been purchasing movies through ITMS and have been watching them on my Sharp Aquos TV via HMDI.
Well, last night I purchased Snatch and started watching it. Then I paused it, came back, and got this message that the display was not HDCP authorized.
Now, I can't watch this movie, but I can watch my other movies. Note again, these are movies also purchase through ITMS. So, what do I have to do? Also hook up a non-HDMI connection to my TV? What bullcrap is that.
I'll let you know what I hear from Apple, because this is seriously not right.
I want to add my voice to lost of seriously peeved people with this.
I have had an Apple TV for a awhile now. Been purchasing movies through ITMS and have been watching them on my Sharp Aquos TV via HMDI.
Well, last night I purchased Snatch and started watching it. Then I paused it, came back, and got this message that the display was not HDCP authorized.
Now, I can't watch this movie, but I can watch my other movies. Note again, these are movies also purchase through ITMS. So, what do I have to do? Also hook up a non-HDMI connection to my TV? What bullcrap is that.
I'll let you know what I hear from Apple, because this is seriously not right.
If you are using HDMI then your tv also supports HDCP. I do think it was odd of the apple tv to throw the error on pausing. Maybe it somehow lost it's link with the display and could not successfully handshake again. Of course why it only affected that one movie is a good question.