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Other countries have truly unlimited unthrottled plans.
Nope. Unless people want to pay over $100/mo, in Australia, mobile data usage is almost always capped.
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I believe network congestion has a lot to do with this cap. It’s not that YOUR data cap is unlimited and you have no throttling, it’s that multiple apps publishing updates all the time and distributing it over cell network limits EVERYONE’s bandwidth. After all, all networks have limited bandwidth.

Imagine a football match, stadium pack full of people have auto update turned on and a ticketing app or google maps decides to publish a major update. Now no one has any network.
Unfortunately most people don’t realise that, like, at all.
 
Android does not have a limit, I guess. For countries like India or China where data is cheap and almost unlimited, this is a very bad decision.
 
Apple simply should let user to enable or disable this option. They should redesign ios with this ...
 



Apple has increased the over-the-air download limit for the App Store to 200MB, up from 150MB.

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The download limit is now 200MB for iPhones and iPads. The limit affects the maximum size of an app that can be downloaded over 3G or 4G networks.

The file size limit is designed to prevent iOS users from accidentally downloading a large app over cellular and using up all their data allowance or running up data charges. But as 9to5Mac notes, there's no way to opt out of the limit, which can be frustrating for users with unlimited data plans.

Apple officially increased the App Store cellular over-the-air download limit to 150 MB in September 2017.

Developers frequently work hard to keep their apps under the over-the-air download limit, as they believe going over that limit reduces the likelihood of spontaneous purchases.

Article Link: Apple Increases Over-the-Air App Store Download Limit to 200MB
Would be even better if they just let you set your own iOS threshold for cellular data - I might set it lower to make sure and save cellular data for other use. Then download larger updates like Keynote, Pages, Garageband on the home wifi
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Apple has increased the over-the-air download limit for the App Store to 200MB, up from 150MB.

app-store-iphones.jpg

The download limit is now 200MB for iPhones and iPads. The limit affects the maximum size of an app that can be downloaded over 3G or 4G networks.

The file size limit is designed to prevent iOS users from accidentally downloading a large app over cellular and using up all their data allowance or running up data charges. But as 9to5Mac notes, there's no way to opt out of the limit, which can be frustrating for users with unlimited data plans.

Apple officially increased the App Store cellular over-the-air download limit to 150 MB in September 2017.

Developers frequently work hard to keep their apps under the over-the-air download limit, as they believe going over that limit reduces the likelihood of spontaneous purchases.

Article Link: Apple Increases Over-the-Air App Store Download Limit to 200MB
should not be apple limiting data. It should be that legal mandate be set on maximum charge per month without explicit override by cellular customers.
 
That is frustrating and frankly something that I never quite understood.

It’s 2019. Aren’t most people sporting unlimited plans? - I’ve had unlimited for over a decade. First with Verizon and now with T-Mobile.

The fact that I can’t download many apps without WiFi just sucks.

I don't have unlimited - I have 5 GB per month, and usually use less than two, so I can afford a 1GB download without problems.

Android is actually advanced here: It lets you mark any network as "metered". So WiFi on a cruise ship, or through a MiFi stick, or through letting your iPad getting internet access through your iPhone's data, can be marked as "metered". And they can mark their mobile data network as "unmetered". On the other hand, it would be nice if I could say what size is Ok. I'm Ok with a 1GB download, but not 10GB.
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In Canada we sure aren’t, most people I know have only a gigabyte or two before our insane overage fees hit.

But we’re a one off, Canada has the most expensive wireless in the western world.

In the UK on O2, you get an email at 80% of your monthly data, and at 100% it just stops. No insane overage fees, because you can't exceed the limit (which is very much preferable IMO). You _can_ from your phone buy more data, which isn't cheap, but not _insanely_ expensive.
 
Android is actually advanced here: It lets you mark any network as "metered". So WiFi on a cruise ship, or through a MiFi stick, or through letting your iPad getting internet access through your iPhone's data, can be marked as "metered". And they can mark their mobile data network as "unmetered".

iOS is smarter and less clunky. According to Apple, iOS and macOS are supposed to automatically detect when you're tethered through an iOS device and treat it appropriately.

Certain apps and features that require a Wi-Fi connection might not work while using a Personal Hotspot. For example, you might not be able to make an iCloud backup or upload photos to iCloud Photo Library or Photo Stream.
 
iOS is smarter and less clunky. According to Apple, iOS and macOS are supposed to automatically detect when you're tethered through an iOS device and treat it appropriately.


I'm quite sure the tethered phone thinks it has a WiFi connection. I could be wrong. Still, the other examples (WiFi on a cruise ship at $100 for 100 MB, WiFi with a MiFi stick) make the iPhone definitely believe that it is on WiFi and can slurp as much data as it wants at no cost. Can you imagine what it costs when you are crossing the atlantic and your iPhone decides it needs to download iOS 12.5 through the WiFi network that goes through a satellite connection?

And it doesn't address the other part. Some people pay for 500MB with insane charges for overuse. I have 5GB and don't mind _large_ downloads but I don't want a 3GB iOS update. Others are truly unlimited. That should be addressed.

For tethering, it also doesn't address how much data the other phone has available. My wife also has 5GB on her phone - she doesn't want her iPad to use more than half of that obviously. On the other hand, the 200 MB limit is stupid for her.

PS. I write iOS software for a living. I don't say "Android does X better" unless it does. The "metered access" setting is something iOS is missing and that should be added. And another more precise setting would make it better than Android.
 
And I’ll continue to tether iPad to iPhone’s generated Wi-Fi, and vice-versa.

Stupid Apple is stupid.
 
[...] Still, the other examples (WiFi on a cruise ship at $100 for 100 MB, WiFi with a MiFi stick) make the iPhone definitely believe that it is on WiFi and can slurp as much data as it wants at no cost. Can you imagine what it costs when you are crossing the atlantic and your iPhone decides it needs to download iOS 12.5 through the WiFi network that goes through a satellite connection?
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PS. I write iOS software for a living. I don't say "Android does X better" unless it does. The "metered access" setting is something iOS is missing and that should be added. And another more precise setting would make it better than Android.
I actually have a small checklist (by now internalised) what to do before joining a metered WiFi network:
  1. Switch off iCloud backup
  2. Switch off automatic downloads for iTunes & App Store (music, apps, updates)
  3. Switch off automatic downloads of podcasts in my podcast player (unfortunately that requires doing that manually for every podcast feed)
  4. (For good measure to reduce background network activity I) switch off Background App Refresh
I guess I should add to that switching off automatic (OS) updates, so far it hasn't bit me because those are rare and I am usually somewhat aware whether one might be released (or has just been released).
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That's so shady, they need to learn from Europe!
I have three (cheap) plans in two different European countries, they all have different ways to handle reaching a data cap. One just limits the speed to 1 Mbit/s, the second automatically adds extra data packets before limiting the speed to 200 kbit/s, the third just limits the speed to 250 kbit/s. Other plans on offer are officially unlimited and are sold at varying prices depending on the speed they offer.
 
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iOS is smarter and less clunky. According to Apple, iOS and macOS are supposed to automatically detect when you're tethered through an iOS device and treat it appropriately.

Unfortunately there is no universal way to "be smart" about this because there are lots and lots of non-iOS devices in the world. Having the option to treat any Wifi-network as metered is the only way to really deal with this.

PS: to also post something on topic: While I think the limit is a good thing to have (smaller Apps are always good) there should be a way to override it. It boils down to the same thing as "metered wifi", the phone has no way to detect how much an update/backup would cost so it should be possible for the user to give the goahead.
 
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It’s 2019. Aren’t most people sporting unlimited plans? - I’ve had unlimited for over a decade. First with Verizon and now with T-Mobile.

The fact that I can’t download many apps without WiFi just sucks.

No, most people are not on unlimited data plans.

I’m sure everyone in your circle of friends has unlimited data. And everyone in my circle of friends has a plan with a set data limit.

I have Verizon Fios at home and WiFi at work. I very seldom use more than 500 MB of cellular data in a month.

I understand that there is a sizable portion of the MacRumors membership that has there mobile provider as their only ISP. But outside of MacRumors, the general population is not using that much cellular data.
 
There is no real unlimited plan. I’ve had AT&T and Verizon and after you cross a certain usage point they throttle your speed to uselessness.

You do realize there are other countries in the world that actually do have unlimited data plans, yes? I have 500+MB/s data speed limit, unlimited data plan. Yet, I have to feel like an idiot because my phone does not allow me to download an app that is >200MB. I really think that the limit should be something i can switch off.

And that football match auto update is a straw man. How is that situation any different from a densely populated area or a subway where everybody and their dog are streaming movies.

If you have data limits, set the phone to metered connection. Let those who don’t have limits use their device as they want to. The service providers obviously think they have the capacity to sell the bandwidth here where I live.

Is there a download limit on Android phones?
 
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Limit should be selectable. Many of us have unlimited data and there's no reason for any limitation.
 



Apple has increased the over-the-air download limit for the App Store to 200MB, up from 150MB.

app-store-iphones.jpg

The download limit is now 200MB for iPhones and iPads. The limit affects the maximum size of an app that can be downloaded over 3G or 4G networks.

The file size limit is designed to prevent iOS users from accidentally downloading a large app over cellular and using up all their data allowance or running up data charges. But as 9to5Mac notes, there's no way to opt out of the limit, which can be frustrating for users with unlimited data plans.

Apple officially increased the App Store cellular over-the-air download limit to 150 MB in September 2017.

Developers frequently work hard to keep their apps under the over-the-air download limit, as they believe going over that limit reduces the likelihood of spontaneous purchases.

Article Link: Apple Increases Over-the-Air App Store Download Limit to 200MB
I remember when it was at 50MB. Ahhh but they should have and option to toggle it off because it is kind of annoying
 
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