Apple Increases Prices in Japan by Up To 25%

It's to bad it never works the other way.....

Countries which currencies that appreciate against the USD never gets a cut, Apple simply pockets the difference.
Case in point, Swiss Francs is up +70% the last 20 years but we never got a price reduction.
Apple's price differential between the US and the rest of the World is based on sales taxes and a 10% buffer for currency fluctuation, prices are revisited at least once a year, usually when new models launch. The Swiss franc has been within this 10% range for years. It takes a difference of more than 10% for more than a year for pricing to move one way or another, hence it looks like you never got a discount. We did get a significant one in the UK when the GBP was 2 to 1 to the USD. It has been going the other way ever since.
 
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What do you mean pointless? I work as a currency trader ;)

Apple always raises it prices when a country's currency drops against its base currency (USD).
Last time it did so with the Turkish Lira a few months ago. Why, because it need to repatriate those revenues in USD and can not / will not expose itself to currency losses. (Apple does generally not engage in currency hedging)

The Swiss franc has for 20 years have gone up against the USD, yet our price ratio to US store has stayed the same.
2002: 1 USD = 1.75 CHF
2022: 1 USD = 0.95 CHF
a 20 years chart its pointless because apple prices are adjusted every year when a new product it's released, or in a extraordinary situation like the turkish lira. So if u say that swiss apple prices wasnt adjusted in 20 years, now it should cost 70% more than in other countries while its not true. just checked prices of the iphone mini. it starts 778chf while the same iphone in italy costs 839€. Considering eur and chf are exactly 1:1 today, it means u have a 60€ cheaper iphone...also what to do u intend for "price ratio"? apple is an US company and get paid in dollars. If he ask 1000usd for a product, then it will ask the same converted value in another currency. if today CHF will get a +100% boost over usd, then he will ask the half of the previous price, otherwise people will buy its products in surrounding countries. But as i proved above, prices are adjusted correctly (at least "almost", considering they are even lower thain it should be).
what more to add? That u should find another job? :)
 
It's to bad it never works the other way.....

Countries which currencies that appreciate against the USD never gets a cut, Apple simply pockets the difference.
Case in point, Swiss Francs is up +70% the last 20 years but we never got a price reduction.

Yeah - that's unfortunate. They know what the market will bear in terms of your local prices and they are charging that. If people stopped buying Apple products, or if people started choosing a competing product they will make the adjustment. Otherwise they would just be leaving money on the table and they didn't get to be a trillion dollar corporation by doing that. Such is corporate greed.
 
A few years ago Brazilian Real gone up against USD and Apple adjusted product prices down to be more affordable.. Sadly it didn't last long and BRL went down the hill and prices hiked up again.
 
Inflation has historically been quite low in Japan. The issue currently is the tumbli value of the yen, went from like 109 JPY per dollar to 135. So this is Apple adjusting.
So I understand it should be completely opposite. Last time in Turkey when local currency was weak with very high inflation Apple risen prices as well. Strong local currency should at least keep prices on unchanged level
 
If only Japan would open up for travel… I would love nothing more than to give them some of my hard earned USD as a tourist with these great exchange rates. I promise not to bring the plague with me. :)
 
UK exchange rate against the $ has plummeted from little under $1.4 to the £ to around $1.2 to the £.

I remember the unilateral price increase across the board when the 2016 October Macs were released. iMacs - which were not refreshed when the 2016 MacBook Pros were introduced - got a circa 20% price hike which was a shocker at the time.

This was due to the absolutely garbage exchange rate of the time which plummeted in the aftermath of the Brexit vote in June of that year.

Importantly, I don't think prices have gone back down in the interim.

In fact, with the new Mac Studio starting to show up on the refurb store I note that they only have a 10% discount rather than 14-15% that other models still get at the moment.

And the new MacBook Pro 13 has had a price hike over the old model whereas the US price has remained consistent. This leads me to believe that we're getting price hikes in the UK in a more stealthy way - they certainly aren't going down.

Let's be fair, supply chain shortages don't help either and a likely recession could affect demand but a price hike sounds like an Apple way to get price per unit up.
 
True, but it tend to work one way only. Anyone remember the last time Apple reduced prices because of exchange rates. (in the 25% range?)
In uk in 2019 iPhone 11 Pro was £1,050, 12 pro - £1,000 in 2020 and 13 pro is £950 now.

MBP price was also readjusted when 14 was introduced. MBP 13 4 port config was £1,800 with £1-$1 ratio, but 14 is £1,900 while US price is $2,000.

The trend is reversed now with new MBA priced at £1,250 while in US it’s $1,200.
 
It's to bad it never works the other way.....

Countries which currencies that appreciate against the USD never gets a cut, Apple simply pockets the difference.
Case in point, Swiss Francs is up +70% the last 20 years but we never got a price reduction.
You may not like it, but it’s actually required to follow GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles) to offset valuations especially in volatile economic situations.

Notice that when there are large fluctuations in currency valuations, Apple as a corporation must account for those by factoring in a basic worst case scenario if the other currencies can further lose value to the Dollar.

What people in Switzerland miss is the VAT is the highest of anywhere in the world. I have Swiss friends who drive across the border weekly to buy mostly food. They’re only allowed to buy a certain value of it per trip or time period (not sure), because Germany has much lower prices.

The EU also has a VAT that’s somewhere around 30%. This is essentially a tariff but these countries get away without calling it this. So the price has the taxes built into it.

When buying products in the USA, most states and tax jurisdictions, buyers must pay an additional tax on top of the Apple price listed on website and in stores. A few States don’t have a sales tax (ex: Oregon) and a few other states don’t have a state income tax (ex: Washington).

In the end, the best place I have found to buy electronics has been Hong Kong. But USA can be a good second place as well as Singapore depending on the products.

I live in Thailand, and just recently they stopped all tariffs on electronics. It made a huge difference in the price of Apple products where most are now cheaper here than USA by the time add sales tax to products in the USA.

Anyways, I think people get mad at Apple and sometimes they do things that can tick people off. But the currency situation, tariffs, and VAT are all factors beyond Apple’s control. Sorry, just the way it is, they’re following the law.
 
a 20 years chart its pointless because apple prices are adjusted every year when a new product it's released, or in a extraordinary situation like the turkish lira. So if u say that swiss apple prices wasnt adjusted in 20 years, now it should cost 70% more than in other countries while its not true. just checked prices of the iphone mini. it starts 778chf while the same iphone in italy costs 839€. Considering eur and chf are exactly 1:1 today, it means u have a 60€ cheaper iphone...also what to do u intend for "price ratio"? apple is an US company and get paid in dollars. If he ask 1000usd for a product, then it will ask the same converted value in another currency. if today CHF will get a +100% boost over usd, then he will ask the half of the previous price, otherwise people will buy its products in surrounding countries. But as i proved above, prices are adjusted correctly (at least "almost", considering they are even lower thain it should be).
what more to add? That u should find another job? :)

- So if u say that swiss apple prices wasnt adjusted in 20 years.......

Never said that, but it has not adjusted "correctly & completely" for currency movement.
Apple does adjust very "accurately and fast" on the downside, while "slow and inaccurate" on the upside.
Very similar to gas stations, move fuel prices quickly when oil prices go up and very slooooooowly when prices go down.

- iphone mini. it starts 778chf while the same iphone in italy costs 839€.

Italy has 22% sales tax, while in Switzerland its 7.7%.
839 Euros minus 22% = 654 Euros vs. 778 CHF minus 7.7% = 718 CHF

1 Euro = 1 CHF so iPhone is 63 Euro/CHF more expensive in Switzerland.

But as i proved above, prices are adjusted correctly (at least "almost", considering they are even lower thain it should be).

Actually, you have proved nothing. :cool:
 
Yeah will the lower back the prices, if things get back to “normal”? Yeh did not think so.
 
You may not like it, but it’s actually required to follow GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles) to offset valuations especially in volatile economic situations.

Notice that when there are large fluctuations in currency valuations, Apple as a corporation must account for those by factoring in a basic worst case scenario if the other currencies can further lose value to the Dollar.

What people in Switzerland miss is the VAT is the highest of anywhere in the world. I have Swiss friends who drive across the border weekly to buy mostly food. They’re only allowed to buy a certain value of it per trip or time period (not sure), because Germany has much lower prices.

The EU also has a VAT that’s somewhere around 30%. This is essentially a tariff but these countries get away without calling it this. So the price has the taxes built into it.

When buying products in the USA, most states and tax jurisdictions, buyers must pay an additional tax on top of the Apple price listed on website and in stores. A few States don’t have a sales tax (ex: Oregon) and a few other states don’t have a state income tax (ex: Washington).

In the end, the best place I have found to buy electronics has been Hong Kong. But USA can be a good second place as well as Singapore depending on the products.

I live in Thailand, and just recently they stopped all tariffs on electronics. It made a huge difference in the price of Apple products where most are now cheaper here than USA by the time add sales tax to products in the USA.

Anyways, I think people get mad at Apple and sometimes they do things that can tick people off. But the currency situation, tariffs, and VAT are all factors beyond Apple’s control. Sorry, just the way it is, they’re following the law.

- What people in Switzerland miss is the VAT is the highest of anywhere in the world. -

Mate, we have the lowest VAT in Europe!

Switzerland = 7.7%

Germany = 19%
Italy = 22%
Sweden = 25%
Denmark = 25%

 
It’s what happens when the yen craters so that it’s now 135 yen to the dollar from 105 yen to the dollar less than a year ago.
 
honestly inflation and currency conversions are just excuses for apple to increases their freaking margins

they know people will buy apple stuff anyway cuz ios and macOS rule for many of us

the funniest part is that many many apple user will defend apple's decision (such as increasing prices whilst giving slower ssd ,for example ,see what i mean?) like they'd defend their own mother .as if you could enjoy spending more for a company
 
It's to bad it never works the other way.....

Countries which currencies that appreciate against the USD never gets a cut, Apple simply pockets the difference.
Case in point, Swiss Francs is up +70% the last 20 years but we never got a price reduction.
It looks like the Francs is down 40% since June 2011. You guys should be paying more. See what I just did? I can play with the chart to prove anyone's point too.
 
honestly inflation and currency conversions are just excuses for apple to increases their freaking margins

they know people will buy apple stuff anyway cuz ios and macOS rule for many of us

the funniest part is that many many apple user will defend apple's decision (such as increasing prices whilst giving slower ssd ,for example ,see what i mean?) like they'd defend their own mother .as if you could enjoy spending more for a company
Who defended getting slower SSD?
 
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