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In India, most apple users who care about apple music are a well-off bunch. From my perspective (anecdotally of-course), wealthy Indians generally use Uber more than Ola.
 
Yes, ignore 1.3B people and instead focus on hardware for 25,000. Such a visionary you are. And some little company who makes $1B profit every ten days is dumb. Will you be CEO?
Those critics are probably not even qualified for janitorial positions in Cupertino, much less CEO. But on MacRumors, they know best how to run the biggest corporation in the world.
 
Yes, I am sure those shareholders are just furious with Cook. I mean, how dare he double the share price from when he took over for Jobs. How dare he grow Apple into the most valuable company on the planet. How dare he set the worlds record for revenue for any company in 2015. How dare he lead Apple to almost 100% of the entire cell industry profits. How dare he take Apple Pay from scratch and blow by Samsung and Google to 75% of the transactions in the US in a year and half. How dare he introduce Apple Music and grow it into the second largest in the entire world in 18 months. How dare he take Apple's services and grow it to the equivalent of a Fortune 100 company and larger than Facebook's entire company revenue. How dare he introduce Apple Watch and just a few months become the largest smart watch maker in the entire world with sales exceeded every other smart watch maker's entire history combined. How dare he introduce new MacBooks that are setting sales records when internet commenters said they would flop. And so on.

Those shareholders should be mighty p***off--they read a report that some unknown person told someone that Apple was shutting down a division for unknown reasons. We don't know if it's because Apple is going to be introducing an ever better product, like an integrated wi-fi device with Siri and HomeKit, but clearly Cook's gotta go.

As has been gone over many times - Steve Balmer's Microsoft grew mightily for several years, but when the dust settled, he was considered a lousy CEO. So keep talking about the profits and growth right now, that's what all the Steve Ballmer chearleaders did early on in his tenure.

http://qz.com/819739/why-tim-cook-is-steve-ballmer-and-why-he-still-has-his-job-at-apple/
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Those critics are probably not even qualified for janitorial positions in Cupertino, much less CEO. But on MacRumors, they know best how to run the biggest corporation in the world.

Read the link above and then listen to the Steve Jobs interview about Xerox I posted earlier in this forum. You are counting the current jar of beans and proclaiming Cook a great CEO, without looking any deeper.
 
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The couple of times that I took Ola in India, I heard nothing playing. I prefer to have a quiet time while I'm in a cab.
 
My opinion is that as an avid Apple computer user since 1980 and having been the fanboy forever and bought tons of Apple stuff and nearly all their laptops over the year, iMacs...

...I see Apple slipping with no real affordable laptop options and Windows 10 looking good...

My next laptop will probably be a Windows 10 machine/Surface. Also, my next phone might be the Pixel. Not sure, but will probably get the iPhone SE (solid), even though I hate things about iOS (can't turn off voice control!!!).

If the Surface phone gains traction...It is running Win10 after all...MS is very late to getting their act together, but...

Main point is that MS has good stuff and they seem much more focus and Apple is headed downward.

Just my opinion!

Edit: Ironically, it used to grate my nerves when people said that Apple was proprietary. Now, I say, Apple isn't web-based and cross platform. Google services are cross-platform and they are way ahead of Apple on that. Apple needs all their stuff web-based and my family is frustrated with iTunes to no end. Company is lost and getting more lost.

Google started out as cross/web platform. Apple did not and probably never fully do it. They build their software to sell hardware.

As for affordable.... Apple is positioned as a premium brand. They are not MS who wants to be all things to all people.

What Apple needs to do is hire more quality engineers and focus on their core services.... iCloud and iTunes for example need work!
 
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Absolutely right! Maybe Tim Cook should sit at his mac and watch these old videos of Steve Jobs. He might learn a thing or two.

He doesn't use Macs...

The Timinator uses a super computer.

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...why would they let the customer control the temperature? You pick up one person who likes it warm, then afterwards you pick up another person who gets in, bitches about it being too hot and then cranks up your AC. Now they leave you with a 3 or 4 star review instead of 5 because the ride was initially uncomfortable.
 
Yes, ignore 1.3B people and instead focus on hardware for 25,000. Such a visionary you are. And some little company who makes $1B profit every ten days is dumb. Will you be CEO?

People bring up profits all the time to determine if a company's course of action is good or bad and even more astoundingly whether it will be good or bad in the future.

This profits-first kind of thinking has me wondering what attracted these sometimes long Apple customers to Apple.

Those are not the core principles of the Apple I - quite honestly - fell a little bit in love with ages ago.

Also, I wonder what a cuck you gotta be to NOT at least voice your opinion when you don't like the direction of a company which's products and ecosystem you are heavily invested into all because short-term profits "legitimize" their actions.

As much as it's a company's job to keep their finances in control, which does include profits, it's also every customers right and dare I say obligation to voice their disconsent with a company's products in a market-based economy.

It's free market feedback for Apple, whether Apple wants to make use of it or not is entirely up to them.

So yes, arm-chair CEOs ARE good for their feedback.
A good company should either have a clear vision and straight forward direction of their own that keeps customers engaged and secures the company's success or do the little bit more of market research.

Tell you what, Apple's profits won't rise forever and if they want to be a trendy company they are subject to becoming untrendy, maybe even uncool at some point.
They still produce mass-market items that are commodities, not luxuary jewelry.

By the time the fashion crowd might - and I won't say they will for sure - drop them like hot potatoes, the average Apple user who might have switched by then won't even look at Apple's lineup anymore if they are unlucky.

Apple is playing a dangerous game, but sure enough, since Cook and Co. are highly paid professionals they must have a better sense for things than I do.

Big companies never go bankrupt or get close to such a situation and certainly Apple never has....

Oh wait...

Glassed Silver:ios
 
So they are just selling someone else's content now that people can get in a multitude of other places... what a bunch of movers and shakers they are over at Apple. :rolleyes:
 
So when Apple can't secure content deals in TV you're all over them but when they do the same for cabs and possibly autonomous vehicles, you think it's trivial. If you're going to blindly hate on Apple when they don't directly benefit you, at least be consistent.
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Oh so making deals isn't work and doesn't matter? Tell that to Eddie Cue and whining about Apple TV.

True, it's work. But having a parade of posts about "this is dumb, give me an iMac/Mac Pro/Time Capsule update" are silly. This isn't taking away from that work.
 
The couple of times that I took Ola in India, I heard nothing playing. I prefer to have a quiet time while I'm in a cab.


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As has been gone over many times - Steve Balmer's Microsoft grew mightily for several years, but when the dust settled, he was considered a lousy CEO. So keep talking about the profits and growth right now, that's what all the Steve Ballmer chearleaders did early on in his tenure.

http://qz.com/819739/why-tim-cook-is-steve-ballmer-and-why-he-still-has-his-job-at-apple/
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Read the link above and then listen to the Steve Jobs interview about Xerox I posted earlier in this forum. You are counting the current jar of beans and proclaiming Cook a great CEO, without looking any deeper.


No one, including Tim Cook, claims he is the visionary that Steve Jobs was. However, your denigration of him, despite Apple's literally record setting performance in so many areas since he took over, and prediction of gloom is like those fans from competing teams of the New England Patriots. Damn that coach Belichick. Yes, he has won four Superbowls and dominates year after year, but he's not that good of a coach. His success can't last and you wait until Tom Brady retires.

More importantly, though, Ballmer's path was nothing like Cook's, and that's where your analogy crashes. Ballmer rode the existing Microsoft monopoly and didn't effectively get into new areas like mobile. Cook's path has been very different. To cite just a few examples: He has taken Apple into entire new and critically important markets like China. He has launched Apple into wearables and while still early, Apple now thoroughly dominates a smart watch market despite huge competitors like Samsung. He launched Apple into music streaming and they are now #2 in a short period of time. He launched Apple Pay and again zoomed past huge competitors like Google to thoroughly dominate that market. He has taken Apple "services" which was routinely denigrated under Jobs, and grown it into the equivalent of a Fortune 100 company with billions in revenue each quarter.

Finally, despite your mis-characterization as lacking innovation, in addition to the above examples, under Cook, Apple has spent exponentially more on R&D than it ever did under Jobs, and is now spending over $10 billion a year. That alone is indication that Apple is aggressively exploring a myriad of new technological innovations. It's maybe news to you that Apple has acquired almost 30 of the most leading edge technology companies just in the past two years under Cook.
 
You don't mind that they can't secure TV content and have never commented on that? You must be a true 1 in 1 million macrumors visitor.
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I'm going to respond to you by stealing a quote from forum member 'Lesser events'. He wrote:

"Why does Apple have to cut items?
Why can't they keep selling them, but shift resources on and off to these devices as improvements are needed?

If I was a major shareholder in Apple, I would be concerned to the point of anger. What is Cook replacing these devices with? What is the direction of this corporation?

It seems they almost want to reduce their presence in the world to an iPhone.

Apple should be doing the complete opposite: developing the best monitors, printers, routers, Pro computers, etc. It has thrived by being a "lifestyle" and not just a stray object or two. Cook has lost the heat and is serving up leftovers."

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Apple has a monopoly on people who think osX is way better than windows. We are stuck now in a no win situation because of Apples recent choices: Leave the OS we love, or accept the crap Apple is now doling out.
Again, not what Jobs was talking about. I suppose it's easy to twist a dead man's words into whatever you want. BTW, you cannot have a monopoly on people, especially when there are a dozen decent solutions for each product that Apple cuts. I want Apple to do everything too but they won't and shouldn't. I guess they have more focus than we do.
 
You don't mind that they can't secure TV content and have never commented on that? You must be a true 1 in 1 million macrumors visitor.

This is really stupid.

This is about Apple music, not Apple's ability or lack thereof to secure TV content. Why have you taken it upon yourself to put words in my mouth and paint what you perceive my opinion to be when I've said nothing of the sort? I've literally said nothing about TV in this thread, yet you are convinced you know all about my position, which you don't. And if you did, it still wouldn't make **** of a difference for the purposes of this thread, so drop it.
 
Watch this Steve Jobs interview about xerox. He says big companies (like Apple is now) fall into the trap of 'profits first' ... 'following the heard'.

You want Apple to do exactly what Steve Jobs said is the death of these kinds of companies:

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Please wake up from your sleep. The Apple you are thinking about no longer exists.

Great arguments on both sides!
We, investers and fans want a financially strong and globally strong brand that Apple is - we want technology to be simple so we can enjoy our lives, daily, not stressed out configured stuff to no end for the right use and solution (the reason Apple existed in the first place). We also like to share in their wealth: stocks/shares/dividends as they continue to grow and strengthen - and never come as close to bankruptcy as they once had back in the late 90's.

Think again. You should watch this video as well. The Apple Puma1552 wants is the Apple that is good for us, and (in the long run) good for Apple as well.

I think he meant that, Puma1552 was thinking the Apple wanted/thinking is good for us, just that it's a different Apple today and it's changed from it's roots even though a good few employees from 2 decades ago still work there.
 
You don't mind that they can't secure TV content and have never commented on that? You must be a true 1 in 1 million macrumors visitor.
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Again, not what Jobs was talking about. I suppose it's easy to twist a dead man's words into whatever you want. BTW, you cannot have a monopoly on people, especially when there are a dozen decent solutions for each product that Apple cuts. I want Apple to do everything too but they won't and shouldn't. I guess they have more focus than we do.

Well said, there's a reason why Apple is Apple and Samsung, HP & LG are everything else.
 
Steve Jobs was about doing the right thing (or at least trying to do the right thing) and profits will come. Shareholders believed in his vision.

Cook is about profits and not knowing if it's the right thing. Shareholders simply believe in the short-term profits. There is no vision to believe in. And Cook simply is living up to the shareholders.

Still, so long as there is no better smartphone, tablet of computer, I will stick with Apple.
 
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