Apple Institutes New Charitable Matching Program for Employees

[Illumination]

Why is everyone against this? Apple has a TON of money, they have every right to give back if they want to. Just because some money is going to charity doesn't mean you won't get your beloved retina iPad or new MacBook Pro.

Because having those things is definitely more important than charitable causes, right? We're all so happy that you can afford everything you want, but stop taking what you have for granted. There are people in the world that have nothing to their name. And no, it's not their own fault. I know that you use that excuse to rationalize your arrogance, but it's just simply not true in every situation.

I never thought I could be so disgusted by users on an internet forum. Thankfully, I go out of my way to not associate with people like this in my life.

 

[reefoid]

I can't believe some of the replies in this thread. Apple decide to donate more to charity using a match-the-employee system and half of you are bitching about it.

Thousands of companies around the world do the same thing, are they all wrong as well? If you don't like it and you've got stock in Apple, simple - sell your stock. If you own Apple products and you're worried Apple might donate to some far out charity you don't like the look of, simple - stop buying Apple products.

This will be a well thought out and organised scheme, so stop your whinging and be grateful that some less fortunate than yourselves might actually benefit from this move.

 

[CWT1965]

Why is everyone against this? Apple has a TON of money, they have every right to give back if they want to. Just because some money is going to charity doesn't mean you won't get your beloved retina iPad or new MacBook Pro.

Because having those things is definitely more important than charitable causes, right? We're all so happy that you can afford everything you want, but stop taking what you have for granted. There are people in the world that have nothing to their name. And no, it's not their own fault. I know that you use that excuse to rationalize your arrogance, but it's just simply not true in every situation.

I never thought I could be so disgusted by users on an internet forum. Thankfully, I go out of my way to not associate with people like this in my life.

In a lot of cases it is their own fault

Alcoholics - No one forced them to binge drink

Drug Addicts - No one forced them to inject themselves or snort class A drugs

Gang Members - No one forced anyone to join a gang they could have studied at college and broken away from the poor area they live in

AIDS victims - Should have worn a condom, no one forced them to sodomise someone without a rubber, only ones deserving of help are those that got AIDS through a blood transfusion

Long term benefit claimants who have never worked - They had a choice, study hard at school/college and get a good job or not study and have a bad life, those that made the wrong choice should get no charity

That is examples of 5 different sectors of society who get charity who don't deserve it, why should Apple come and give them money ?

 

[reefoid]

In a lot of cases it is their own fault

Alcoholics - No one forced them to binge drink

Drug Addicts - No one forced them to inject themselves or snort class A drugs

Gang Members - No one forced anyone to join a gang they could have studied at college and broken away from the poor area they live in

AIDS victims - Should have worn a condom, no one forced them to sodomise someone without a rubber, only ones deserving of help are those that got AIDS through a blood transfusion

Long term benefit claimants who have never worked - They had a choice, study hard at school/college and get a good job or not study and have a bad life, those that made the wrong choice should get no charity

That is examples of 5 different sectors of society who get charity who don't deserve it, why should Apple come and give them money ?

How about the children being abused, disabled people unable to care for themselves, people homeless through no fault of their own, people suffering from cancer (you know, like SJ) and other terrible diseases.

edit - and your comments on Aids just show what a bigoted individual you are.

 

[CWT1965]

How about the children being abused, disabled people unable to care for themselves, people homeless through no fault of their own, people suffering from cancer (you know, like SJ) and other terrible diseases.

There are some deserving cases, I merely listed the undeserving, those people are deserving of charity, just not people that ****ed up their lifestyle choices.

People who are disabled, physically or mentally abused, suffering with cancer or whatever yeah they should get charity because they are having a hard life through no fault of their own, why do you think i didnt include them in the above list ?

Before I got my current job I was a skills coach for long term unemployed people in the UK on a program called New Deal where I taught them how to do a good resume, how to conduct themselves in interviews and so on and the people there on that program disgusted me and sickened me with their attitude and their lazyness, complete bums, totally unemployable yet at the same time living off my hard earned money, eventually I quit as it was hard not to rip into these people and I had to be professional but it totally changed my opinion towards unemployed people and welfare programs.

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edit - and your comments on Aids just show what a bigoted individual you are.

It is a fact of life that the biggest group of sufferers of AIDS are gay males, I have nothing against homosexuality, I work with a homosexual and he is the nicest guy you could possibly meet but the majority of AIDS is caused by gay males or bisexual males then infecting females, that is a fact that can't be denied, if people want to engage in homosexual sex without a condom then fine, their choice, far be it for me to stop them, just don't expect me to pick up the tab if they get AIDS, for the record I am in favour of gay marriages and same sex partnerships so before you brand me homophobic think again

 

[juliandroms]

Bah

Bah

 

[CWT1965]

Not always. There are the IV drug abusers who get it from sharing dirty needles too.

Absolutely, like with people who get it through blood transfusions such people deserve help and charity, there has been claims via Wikileaks over the years that Steve has HIV through a blood transfusion (unlikely but not impossible)

 

[buccsmf1]

In a lot of cases it is their own fault

Alcoholics - No one forced them to binge drink

Drug Addicts - No one forced them to inject themselves or snort class A drugs

Gang Members - No one forced anyone to join a gang they could have studied at college and broken away from the poor area they live in

AIDS victims - Should have worn a condom, no one forced them to sodomise someone without a rubber, only ones deserving of help are those that got AIDS through a blood transfusion

Long term benefit claimants who have never worked - They had a choice, study hard at school/college and get a good job or not study and have a bad life, those that made the wrong choice should get no charity

That is examples of 5 different sectors of society who get charity who don't deserve it, why should Apple come and give them money ?

I used to think like this...... when i was SIXTEEN. Lucky for me i grew the **** up, apparently you never did. No intelligent adult could be this ignorant.

Statistics show that nearly 2/3 of drug abusers were sexually abused as children. Just the other day I was watching an intervention show and it turns out that the 24 year old homeless meth addict that they were doing the show on had been raped every night for about 10 years by his step-dad.

Then comes your idiotic rant about homosexuals. Condoms never break right? And im sure EVERY time members of the heterosexual community have intercourse they use a condom... LOL. They're just lucky that they're more likely to get penicillin curable syphilis than AIDS.

And this one is the best, "They had a choice, study hard at school/college and get a good job or not study and have a bad life." LOL. You honestly think that every person you pass on the street had the opportunity to go to college? Hell, I know kids from MIDDLE CLASS families that weren't allowed to go to college because their parents wanted them to get a job instead to help pay bills. The fact is that some kids are born into **** families, and they never even had a shot at a good life.

Sure, some people out there are just scum that deserve no help. But don't be so quick to judge others, because you have no ****ing idea what its been like to live life in their shoes.

The number of people bashing the RICHEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD for finally giving to charity is absolutely DISGUSTING. You're complaining about your ****ing stock prices? Your ****ing dividend checks? Good/innocent people around the world are starving, are dying, and all you people care about is more more more more more $$$$$

 

[CWT1965]

Statistics show that nearly 2/3 of drug abusers were sexually abused as children. Just the other day I was watching an intervention show and it turns out that the 24 year old homeless meth addict that they were doing the show on had been raped every night for about 10 years by his step-dad.

There is a word that can easily be used regardless of background, skin colour, culture, wealth, personal circumstances or whatever, the word is called

NO

I have been offered drugs dozens of times at parties, when I was a youth, through friends and each time I refused, through a social network of arty types and media types in adult life I was offered cocaine countless times, I have watched people take cocaine and heroin, someone who was sexually abused has every right to say no to drugs as I do, if someone is too weak willed to say no to drugs then that is not my problem tbh.

 

[Steve121178]

In a lot of cases it is their own fault

Alcoholics - No one forced them to binge drink

Drug Addicts - No one forced them to inject themselves or snort class A drugs

Gang Members - No one forced anyone to join a gang they could have studied at college and broken away from the poor area they live in

AIDS victims - Should have worn a condom, no one forced them to sodomise someone without a rubber, only ones deserving of help are those that got AIDS through a blood transfusion

Long term benefit claimants who have never worked - They had a choice, study hard at school/college and get a good job or not study and have a bad life, those that made the wrong choice should get no charity

That is examples of 5 different sectors of society who get charity who don't deserve it, why should Apple come and give them money ?

You're ignorance makes me pity you.

 

[CWT1965]

You're ignorance makes me pity you.

I am in favour of Apple giving money, just want it to go to the right causes not the people I feel don't deserve help

Mentally handicapped people - Yes
People with cancer - Yes
Dialysis machines and scanners - Yes
Victims of domestic abuse - Yes
Cripples who can't work - Yes

Apple should donate to those sort of causes but not the ones I listed in previous post

 

[Steve121178]

I am in favour of Apple giving money, just want it to go to the right causes not the people I feel don't deserve help

Mentally handicapped people - Yes
People with cancer - Yes
Dialysis machines and scanners - Yes
Victims of domestic abuse - Yes
Cripples who can't work - Yes

Apple should donate to those sort of causes but not the ones I listed in previous post

Lets look at your AIDS comment "AIDS victims - Should have worn a condom, no one forced them to sodomise someone without a rubber, only ones deserving of help are those that got AIDS through a blood transfusion"

What about those born to parents who were HIV positive? There's so many holes in your argument, it's pointless debating it further, let alone taking it seriously.

 

[Lennholm]

In a lot of cases it is their own fault

Alcoholics - No one forced them to binge drink

Drug Addicts - No one forced them to inject themselves or snort class A drugs

Gang Members - No one forced anyone to join a gang they could have studied at college and broken away from the poor area they live in

AIDS victims - Should have worn a condom, no one forced them to sodomise someone without a rubber, only ones deserving of help are those that got AIDS through a blood transfusion

It must be nice in that sheltered non-reality you grew up and live in

ILong term benefit claimants who have never worked - They had a choice, study hard at school/college and get a good job or not study and have a bad life, those that made the wrong choice should get no charity

Maybe they did study hard but can't get a job because the job market in their field of expertise are saturated or their expertise has lately been rendered obsolete. This is a tragic reality for many nowadays. The notion of "if you work hard, you WILL be successful" is a lost dream, it's too much up to chance these days.

Before I got my current job I was a skills coach for long term unemployed people in the UK on a program called New Deal where I taught them how to do a good resume, how to conduct themselves in interviews and so on and the people there on that program disgusted me and sickened me with their attitude and their lazyness, complete bums, totally unemployable yet at the same time living off my hard earned money, eventually I quit as it was hard not to rip into these people and I had to be professional but it totally changed my opinion towards unemployed people and welfare programs.

Motivational coaches, the biggest scam in modern time. Waste of money and just a way of keeping people busy. The percentage of people moving on to (real) employment because of motivational coaches are ridiculously low. People either drop out or get hired as motivational coaches themselves

 

[samcraig]

You're ignorance makes me pity you.

Sadly - I don't think he's ignorant. I think he has bigger issues.

 

[CWT1965]

Motivational coaches, the biggest scam in modern time. Waste of money and just a way of keeping people busy. The percentage of people moving on to (real) employment because of motivational coaches are ridiculously low. People either drop out or get hired as motivational coaches themselves

I was not a motivational coach, I was employed by the government to get unemployed people who had been out of work for more than 6 months fit for, I would show them how to use computers, improve their CV, show them how to act in interviews but it became obvious to me that at least 9 out of 10 had no intention of looking for a job, the same *******s who blame immigrants for "stealing all the jobs", if it was down to me having seen unemployed people day in day out I would stop all unemployment benefits after 6 months and let them starve in the gutter like rats if they haven't got a job by then, I had sympathy for the unemployed until I took that job.

Now I work in marketing and am earning twice as much and working alongside albitious people

 

[gnasher729]

Even as CEO I would be surprised if Tim Cook has discretionary power to implement a half billion dollar a year program without the board having oversight.

It is a half a billion dollar a year program only if every single Apple employee donates $10,000 a year to charities. Which seems just a tiny little bit unlikely. Total cost is probably around $5-10 million, not more. Boards are not or should not be into micro management.

I was not a motivational coach, I was employed by the government to get unemployed people who had been out of work for more than 6 months fit for, I would show them how to use computers, improve their CV, show them how to act in interviews but it became obvious to me that at least 9 out of 10 had no intention of looking for a job, the same *******s who blame immigrants for "stealing all the jobs", if it was down to me having seen unemployed people day in day out I would stop all unemployment benefits after 6 months and let them starve in the gutter like rats if they haven't got a job by then, I had sympathy for the unemployed until I took that job.

Sounds like you did an excellent job. You should be proud of yourself.

 

[CWT1965]

Sounds like you did an excellent job. You should be proud of yourself.

Can't squeeze blood out of a stone mate, I can only tell them so much, if I got them an interview and they turned up to interviews in jeans and t shirt and gave half hearted answers and didn't turn up on time not a lot I can do, the vast majority of the unemployed simply don't want to work

 

[frogger2020]

Jobs founded Apple, Apple is his baby, it has been his life for nearly 40 years, the idea that Jobs will sit at home playing Angry Birds HD on his iPad and not take any decisions is beyond ridiculous, I may not know the role of the board but I have read books on Steve Jobs and the Steve I know will only stop working for Apple the day he dies

Exactly! That's why Steve has never been fired by Apple..... oh wait...

 

[samcraig]

Can't squeeze blood out of a stone mate, I can only tell them so much, if I got them an interview and they turned up to interviews in jeans and t shirt and gave half hearted answers and didn't turn up on time not a lot I can do, the vast majority of the unemployed simply don't want to work

To clarify - you are stating your opinion - not fact. Just in case anyone actually thought you were credible.

 

[frogger2020]

I personally hate charity, sure society should help those that can't change their lives like severely physically and mentally handicapped people, they are worthy of help but poor people, alcoholics, unemployed, drug addicts, AIDS victims (bar the ones who got AIDS through blood transfusion) are to me unworthy of any charity, they got themselves into their ****ed up situation through lifestyle choices, not working hard at school, not working hard at work or in many cases not working at all, taking drugs etc, not wearing a condom when doing anal, life's losers, Apple should not give them a cent

Glen Beck, please leave this forum!

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I am in favour of Apple giving money, just want it to go to the right causes not the people I feel don't deserve help

Mentally handicapped people - Yes
People with cancer - Yes
Dialysis machines and scanners - Yes
Victims of domestic abuse - Yes
Cripples who can't work - Yes

Apple should donate to those sort of causes but not the ones I listed in previous post

Those dastardly Windows users - No
People who don't worship Steve Jobs - No
Pro-Apple Macrumors posters - YES

 

[juliandroms]

Bah

Bah

 

[samcraig]

Frankly, as an Apple consumer, shareholder or employee, I wouldn't care an iota about how much money the company donates on behalf of their employees.

Honest question. If you had cancer or (worse some rare disease that barely gets funding - or someone close to you had and you were passionate about the cause - might you sing another tune?

There are tons of charities that are important. Serve a greater good (not just hunger or housing, etc) but can't find funding because there aren't enough people affected or even know about them.

Don't you think if someone at Apple who worked there donated to one of these (or if you were there and donated to one of these) it would have a great impact/give a great appreciation for working for a company that doubled your investment there and was philanthropic in that matter.

I can't believe there are people who are remotely against this, don't see the benefit either in PR or in ACTUAL HELPING, or can't wrap their heads around the idea that there are millions of charities that have nothing to do with giving someone a meal or other things people consider "hand outs"

The same people who post against this are no doubt the same people who probably abuse Apple's return/exchange policy; complain against ATT making money; scream/give tons of bad reviews for a .99 cent app.

Wow.

 

[CWT1965]

Honest question. If you had cancer or (worse some rare disease that barely gets funding - or someone close to you had and you were passionate about the cause - might you sing another tune?

There are tons of charities that are important. Serve a greater good (not just hunger or housing, etc) but can't find funding because there aren't enough people affected or even know about them.

Don't you think if someone at Apple who worked there donated to one of these (or if you were there and donated to one of these) it would have a great impact/give a great appreciation for working for a company that doubled your investment there and was philanthropic in that matter.

I can't believe there are people who are remotely against this, don't see the benefit either in PR or in ACTUAL HELPING, or can't wrap their heads around the idea that there are millions of charities that have nothing to do with giving someone a meal or other things people consider "hand outs"

The same people who post against this are no doubt the same people who probably abuse Apple's return/exchange policy; complain against ATT making money; scream/give tons of bad reviews for a .99 cent app.

Wow.

I want to see Apple spend their war chest on world domination of the computing and phone market, I want to see Apple crush Blackberry so that RIMM are reduced to being a software player, I want to see Apple crush Samsung into non existence and to have them go back to making tv's, I want to see Apple force Nokia out of the market, I want Apple to have a near monopoly on phones and tablets and computing so every bit of money Apple spend on PR stunts like this is less money to crush its rivals

 

[samcraig]

I want to see Apple spend their war chest on world domination of the computing and phone market, I want to see Apple crush Blackberry so that RIMM are reduced to being a software player, I want to see Apple crush Samsung into non existence and to have them go back to making tv's, I want to see Apple force Nokia out of the market, I want Apple to have a near monopoly on phones and tablets and computing so every bit of money Apple spend on PR stunts like this is less money to crush its rivals

There are no words. Personally - I shudder to think of a world where there are no choices. And I find it hard to believe that anyone with a right mind would want "one company to rule them all"

And giving is a PR stunt? Tell that to the charities and to the potential masses of people who would benefit from such a program.

p.s. a company could do all that you mention and still give to charity. I know that's inconceivable to someone like you who has demonstrated their disdain for (most of) the human race.

p.p.s. heaven forbid you get some incurable disease (through no fault of your own of course) and get wiped out financially trying to treat it and have no where to turn because no one gave a crap about your circumstances.

 

[Manderby]

Talk about pressure...