It’s sad. But also not really: AI is English only for the foreseeable future, and for the vast majority of EU citizens, English is not their first language. And changing between languages on Siri is a major pain.
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Apple Intelligence Features Not Coming to European Union at Launch Due to DMA
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I'm not a lawyer, and definitely not a European lawyer, so maybe I'm wrong. Would love someone who is knowledgeable to chime in.
My guess is they'll eventually have to allow third party AI assistants, but no one is close enough to building one yet to make the fight worth it. My guess is Apple will make a security/privacy/undermining the OS argument and hope the courts back them on that, but who knows.
I do think Apple wants to delight its customers, and hates having to do this, but unlike many here, my guess is they actually have very good privacy/security reasons for doing so. You may disagree with the reasoning behind their choices - I could see why one would say "I don't care about the privacy, give me the features" - but Apple is a publicly traded company; they aren't doing things out of spite.
As I have said before, Tim Cook should have started selling Android phones to deal with this DMA non-sense. Problem solved.
EU’s prefer Android over iOS in any case, as Android is the market leader in the EU.
That's what I find most ridiculous about the DMA. Apple is only 27% of the European market. How on earth are they getting regulated like they're Microsoft in the 1990s with 90% market share.
Quite correct. And this will happen again and again. Each time Apple provides a new feature that is based on an API, they must, under the DMA give rights to that API. There are some caveats, but mostly they'll be required and if those APIs are sensitive, there are going to be issues like this. So one easy way to deal with the situation is to turn off that API in the EU. Spiteful? Unlikely - they won't risk upsetting their EU customers and losing sales, well, not long-term. Practical? Certainly. The one thing the EU cannot do is force Apple to provide new functionality.
It's one of two stores that have almost 100% market share. It's the only store on iOS. Not that hard to understand.
European friends, you know what to do:
Margrethe's team is putting more and more pressure on Apple, so maybe we, as customers, need to voice our concerns as well.
commissioners.ec.europa.eu
Margrethe's team is putting more and more pressure on Apple, so maybe we, as customers, need to voice our concerns as well.
Margrethe Vestager's team
Margrethe Vestager's team supports her in her daily work
Shame on the EU for not properly regulating Classic MacOS in the 1990s then. It was one of two OS that together had almost 100% market share and the only OS for the Mac.
I guess you haven’t read the latest problem EU has with Apple on deciding to fine. The whole thing is open to interpretation. Companies won’t risk based on interpretation, and EU has its own, that’s not how companies handle risk. EU will get the least common denominator with very less risk or risk averse features. Anything open for nannycrats interpretation can be left out. Why risk litigation, at some point it just isn’t worth the risk.
Serious question: how comes Samsung has it „Galaxy AI“ stuff completely up and running in the EU without hearing them once whine about the *booohohohooo* DMA? 🤔
Sure, Apple did not make the DMA. But they have to comply! But so have others. And obviously they do so without the Apple‘ish *mimimimimimimimi*
In my opinion, Apple acts just childish. Just because THEY cannot make the rules, they stomp their foot on the ground, leave the field, cross their arms and sulk. 😭
Sure, Apple did not make the DMA. But they have to comply! But so have others. And obviously they do so without the Apple‘ish *mimimimimimimimi*
In my opinion, Apple acts just childish. Just because THEY cannot make the rules, they stomp their foot on the ground, leave the field, cross their arms and sulk. 😭
Because Samsung isn't a gatekeeper as defined in the law, and so the DMA doesn't apply to them.
That is the thing, prior the DMA they could do what they want, consumers had no choice, no matter why they had or wanted to use an iPhone. The DMA gives consumers a choice without changing the platform. And as Steve Jobs said: "people don't know what they want until you show them."
That is a lie.
Spotify is available on Windows, Mac OS, iOS, Android, Chrome OS, Linux, ....
iOS and Android are not 100% market share where Spotify is on.
Spotify is even on gaming consoles like the Xbox Series X.
Samsung is not being targeted like Apple with a gatekeeper boondoggle. Apply the law same to all devices.
Did Classic MacOS limited what software you could run and from where you had to buy it?
Windows and Mac OS are not regulated, because they allow installing programs outside the respective App Store.
The DMA is not about distributing apps on all platforms, it is about distributing Android apps on Android and iOS apps on iOS. These issues don't exist at all on macOS, Windows, or Linux.
Where you’ve gonna awry here is the assumption that it’s “beloved” .. especially when you get to the developer side
No, but neither did Microsoft and they still got regulated (and should have, to be clear).
You're not going to change my opinion on this - a competitor with 27% of the market share should NOT be regulated like they have a monopoly. There is a perfectly acceptable operating system where you can install whatever you want.
Lucky for you, the EU says you can have your cake and eat it too!
More of this, please. Leave the EU on iOS 17 even.
I just saying that EU citizens will be able to buy whatever they want (or can). But, will they buy an iPhone without AI?
How for the above two points? I blame Apple for not seeing the writing on the wall months ago and respond properly. Either that or Apple just hate DMA so much they just decide to randomly delay features they don’t want third parties to have access to.
Besides, if sidecar is anything to go by, I’m not going to be impressed with iPhone mirroring. As for Apple AI, ewww, gonna need another year or so to be useful most likely.
Most likely Apple just incorporate “domestic AI alternative” in China’s iPhone and permanently disable access of OpenAI products in their iOS 18/iPadOS 18. We are going to see more and more disparities between China and the rest of the world in terms of core system features. The cost of dual physical SIM is going to be huge.
