I think it's more like — EU brought the tat, Apple brought the tit.
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Apple Intelligence Features Not Coming to European Union at Launch Due to DMA
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I think it's more like — EU brought the tat, Apple brought the tit.
One has to wonder what privacy they are bragging about. Or Apple twists the meaning of “privacy” based on where their products are being sold? So all the privacy marketing is just a you know what I mean?
- McDonald's doesn't have the power to deny hamburger creators access to 50% of the hamburger market.
- McDonald's users have much lower costs of switching to Burger King (or someone else) than iOS/iPhone users.
- McDonald's users don't spend hundreds of dollars to commit to McDonald's before their first hamburger purchase.
- McDonald's users don't spend hours to set up and learn how to eat their burgers best - and have to relearn/get accustomed to Burger King, if they were to switch.
- It doesn't cost investments into the billions of dollars to set up a competing shop and compete with McDonald's or Burger King for hamburgers.
It McDonald's and Burger King commanded a similar market power and market concentration for meat and veggies stuffed into bread rolls as Apple/Google for mobile application, government regulation on hamburger sales would be long overdue.
"Many would agree with me" isn't a very solid argument. But now you want to change your term from monopoly to duopoly? Apple is not a monopoly.
If I was in the EU, I’d be a little annoyed at not getting iPhone mirroring. The rest doesn’t really bother me.
IOS has only 23-27% marketshare in the EU.
Getting testy in the Apple-sphere between folks who've long been friends!
I think maybe Gruber has been just a teeny bit influenced by his cozy access with Apple execs the last few years
I think maybe Gruber has been just a teeny bit influenced by his cozy access with Apple execs the last few years
100% true. I don't know any iPhone user that uses iMessage, FaceTime etc. Not sure why you've received so many downvotes. Never met any iPhone user that'd use Messages or FaceTime.
Another good point (about the scraping)
Apple is successfully nuking so much goodwill and sending fractures across their user and fanbases
Nice Tim .... nice..
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Apple is successfully nuking so much goodwill and sending fractures across their user and fanbases
Nice Tim .... nice..
/s
You never knew Spotify is available outside of iOS and Android? And Windows is even bigger than iOS where Spotify is also available.
So there is no duopoly between iOS and Android when it comes services like Spotify.
Maybe on users / installations - but not on revenue.
They earn and control most of the money made by digital transactions on smartphones.
They have a majority market share on revenue, as we both agree.
It contradicts your characterising Apple "a minority player", and your constant remarks about them only having about 25% market share are disingenuous in my opinion.
You're labelling them a 25% minority player when it suits you (arguing about government intervention).
Yet when what seems to be a developer cites Apple restrictions as reason why he/she won't develop for iOS, you counter by asserting that most money is made on iOS.
👉 You're changing your position on what's market share and what's minority/majority as it suits you.
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God forbid someone be allowed to mirror their iPhone with a Windows machine, right? Then people will have one less reason to buy a Mac...the horror...
Oh ok I’m so out of touch then. Wonder which device support Spotify’s own operating system.
They probably don’t want to roll it out just to get fined 10% of their worldwide revenue.
Apple is missing many languages spoken in the EU such as some of the Finno Ugric and Baltic languages, while Microsoft and Google has those languages.
Is Spotify available only on iOS and Android? The answer is no. It is available on pretty much every operating systems, including gaming consoles.
iOS doesn't hold a monopoly or duopoly position over EU services like Spotify.
Because monopoly power isn't determined by revenue. I'm not shifting or changing anything.
I don’t want to allow Windows machines complete access, including remote control, to my iPhone.
The way this “mirroring” feature was shown to work, you can directly control your iPhone while it is locked.
In fact, I am unsure if those folks truly understand the meaning of the word “monopoly” here. I for one don’t really know what counts as monopoly in the legal context, but market share alone doesn’t seem to be enough to define.
Well there's a function I won't miss. If this mirroring only works with private APIs that only Apple can access because otherwise they would present a security risk then they sound insecure by design.
Well...here's a clue for you. The EU invented the term "Gatekeeper" because they know that Apple is not a monopoly.