Play stupid games….. 
Good! Maybe the citizens of the EU will stand up now!
Good! Maybe the citizens of the EU will stand up now!
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Apple Intelligence Features Not Coming to European Union at Launch Due to DMA
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Thank you. I can see why Apple would take issue with this paragraph. On the other hand, if they would really mean it, wouldn't they also have to disable the old Siri? Otherwise, it would seem to only be an excuse in my opinion.
Hard to disagree honestly
Apple are trying to play the wag the dog
Apple are trying to play the wag the dog
Hard to disagree? You haven't said a positive thing about Apple in a very long time, so far as I've seen.
Yeah. If they really cared about privacy, they would leave some of the most lucrative markets like China immediately.
I suppose it's mostly US users who can't believe it but I'm also very strong in my wording. The market here is a lot more flexible, regardless of whether the EU is the problem or Apple in this case. I believe they share blame and nobody is really guilty - Apple has a right to defend their interests that should be treated with respect, regardless of whether they're an European, American or Chinese company.
If the Android is the better offering when it comes to features, capabilities, display, battery, storage, etc. people are just going to go for the Android in most of Europe. At least in my country, iPhones are largely a Gen Z thing because older people think it's 1. way too expensive for a phone, and 2. that it's hard to use, which I believe is because Apple didn't even care to add OS-level language support for many countries outside of western Europe until very late in the game, so the stereotype stuck. We're a market that's very used to Android and everyone who has an iPhone comes from an Android as their "ok-now-i'm grown-up phone" so nobody here is confused navigating Androids. As for iMessage, FaceTime etc... I'd dare say most activity on there from Europeans is an accidental tap.
I find it hilarious that the American Apple fans on here are quick to blame the EU while Google who they insult daily on here can release Gemini features with zero fuss in the EU and UK.
That tells me that Apple is doing something dirty and you’re all treating this like a sports game, USA v EU when you should be more worried.
Remember all those people saying “pull out of the EU” because of USB-C, well they won’t need to because they’ll be dead in the EU first just like china.
That tells me that Apple is doing something dirty and you’re all treating this like a sports game, USA v EU when you should be more worried.
Remember all those people saying “pull out of the EU” because of USB-C, well they won’t need to because they’ll be dead in the EU first just like china.
Honestly, if a good, smaller than iPhone 13 Mini, Android option comes along I'm definitely a candidate to switch.
You are refuting a straw man argument. No one is arguing that Apple is a monopoly in the strictest sense. A company does not have to be a genuine monopoly to get impacted by antitrust legislation.
Ahh...the "China" problem for Apple
Amazing how they drum up all this fuss about EU rules, but the second China says "jump" .. Tim says "how high?"
So far as I'm aware, Google Gemini isn't as tightly woven into the OS as is Apple Intelligence. Nor has Google concentrated on building "on-device" AI with strong privacy features. You're making a comparison that simply doesn't hold. That they both deal with AI isn't the issue.
People on these threads continue to casually use the term "monopoly" when referring to Apple. Apple is not a monopoly.
Except for the fact that you're "locked in" to the Apple Ecosystem, right?
Really begs the question of “is apple an American company or Chinese company?”.
Exactly
Said it so many times but Americans can’t comprehend it.
We don’t care about iMessage or green bubbles.
Samsung, oneplus, Google and nothing will clean up.
A fair point -- because without access to China for manufacturing (and the market to sell into also), they'd be mostly DOA
Honestly my favorite thing about all of this is that the emperors clothes have come off
We are finally getting an international discourse about what Apple actually is at this point in time, as opposed to the nostalgic view of them so many of us have held onto and hoped was still somewhat there.
We are finally getting an international discourse about what Apple actually is at this point in time, as opposed to the nostalgic view of them so many of us have held onto and hoped was still somewhat there.
So would… just about every company that sells mass manufactured products.
How do we not comprehend it? I'm well aware that Apple has only about a 23-27% MarketShare in the EU.
And that's part of the point. There's no need to try to hobble Apple in the EU. As you keep saying, Apple is a small time player in the EU.
Honest question: why does it seem most of Europe have such trust for Meta/Facebook? While of course popular in the US to varying degrees, there is also an underlying “Do NOT trust Meta” vibe here. In the US if you asked me to use Facebook anything (Messenger, WhatsApp) I’d laugh and ask what cut Zuckerberg is giving you.
And yet everyone is quick to say Google can’t be trusted yet Apple can’t comply with the EU rules while Google does just fine.
Both AI require access to your information but only one complies with the EU.
you should be concerned about what Apple is hiding with OpenAI from the EU.
So now what? By all accounts, Apple has full control over the smartphone market. So I guess this will eliminate the last intelligence in the EU?
Or are you saying that there are in fact other wares to purchase? Whaaaa?!!!
Gatekeeper predates the formation of the EU, by very many centuries.
Again, Google Gemini is NOT integrated into the OS in the way Apple Intelligence is.