The main thing I want (and I think most people would use) is a Siri that can actually hold a conversation, and has access to my emails, messages and so on so it can be properly effective.
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Apple Intelligence Isn't Driving iPhone Upgrades
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I want a much improved Siri (understanding language, holding a conversation, access to email, calendar, photos and all docs) and I want a much better image search in my iphoto library and all images on my SSD. And I want a very good search of all my documents on my SSD. I want to be able to describe what I'm looking for in natural language and ythe AI finds whatever fits the description. I don't expect this to work in the next few years to the level I want it to be. Therefore no reason to upgrade because of AI.
Overall I'm not optimistic about Apple delivering on this. As far as software services goes Apple has a weak record. Aside of the OS and a few basic services Apple has never been good at this. The initial MobileMe was a disaster, the me.com email was unreliable at best, apple calendar is lightyears behind MS outlook or Lotus notes if anyone remembers that. Dropbox was only successful because of the lack of a good iCloud. Apple gave up aperture and ceded the market to Adobe. iPhoto just got a whole lot worse with the new design. I'm afraid apple intelligence will go the same way: not a professional product for professional and skilled users but rather a toy. I hope I'm wrong.
Overall I'm not optimistic about Apple delivering on this. As far as software services goes Apple has a weak record. Aside of the OS and a few basic services Apple has never been good at this. The initial MobileMe was a disaster, the me.com email was unreliable at best, apple calendar is lightyears behind MS outlook or Lotus notes if anyone remembers that. Dropbox was only successful because of the lack of a good iCloud. Apple gave up aperture and ceded the market to Adobe. iPhoto just got a whole lot worse with the new design. I'm afraid apple intelligence will go the same way: not a professional product for professional and skilled users but rather a toy. I hope I'm wrong.
I mean it seems to be completely useless. I'm not even sure what it does. It tried to summarize my texts or emails, but they are never even close to accurate. Other than that, my 7 year old nephew likes image playground, but that's even super limited to just a lame headshot.
I think I figured out what's needed here:
"Apple Intelligence Pro"
"Apple Intelligence Pro"
I don’t need a smarter Siri, I need a less intrusive Siri. I wish I could deactivate Siri and still be able to use Apple Car Play. I don’t need voice commands but you still have to have Siri running to use Apple Car Play.
Literally the only thing I'm interested in is video and photo upgrades.....Apple Intelligence isn't going to make me buy a new phone at all.
This is the only reason I was interested in the 15 and 16. If they don't do any significant advancements in photo or video for the 17 or 18....I definitely will not be getting one.
This is the only reason I was interested in the 15 and 16. If they don't do any significant advancements in photo or video for the 17 or 18....I definitely will not be getting one.
IMO Apple Intelligence, or more specifically Siri has become awful and frankly a joke with in the smart device market. Before iOS 18 and its most recent update. But more recently all it does it tell me its had an error even for the simplest instructions like "Siri end navigation". 12 times on my journey today I told it to end navigation and every time it took more than 60 seconds to think and tell me there was and error and to try again. I thought the whole point of Apple Ai and Siri and iPhone 16 (Pro - in my case) was to make more commands processable on device.
Too many times with many other simple commands it no longer works. it's worse than Alexa and I and that pretty poo.
Too many times with many other simple commands it no longer works. it's worse than Alexa and I and that pretty poo.
They are late to the AI party, but they will leverage marketing to lure users into their AI ecosystem before they turn on monetization and the subscription model.
18.4 beta cycle is coming late January, while it’s not like conversation Siri that is part of iOS 19, it’s said to finally see some more Siri improvements finally. For hands free iPhone usage it’s been Apple’s most noticeable liability of all time. Why have so powerful AS processors but such an anemic voice agent.
i'm not going to prescribe what the software needs to be to be good. the onus is on the product to sell me on its value. right now for myself and apparently lots of others, this is not that.
you and others may find it the bees knees and i won't take that away from you, i promise!
but i'd say we can at least agree this whole AI rollout has not been a slam dunk.
EDIT: to be fair, stuff like the neural engine doing object segmentation and cropping out subjects has been great, i'm 100% glad for stuff like that. even when it doesn't work, its a quick function that you can try and see if the results suit your needs. maybe it is bias that the feature became available before AI features started getting plastered on everything, but it feels like it was done 'right' in a way that a lot of this more recent stuff doesn't.
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It’s all a gimmick at best in my opinion. Whether from Apple or google or OpenAI or Microsoft or nvidia or …
The biggest thing people want from apple intelligence is for siri to be what it was always promised to be, A comprehensive verbal interface with some intent reasoning skills. However this is the one piece of apple intelligence that Apple keeps kicking the can down the road on, ever stalling us with gimmicks like image playground and chat gpt integration.
For all the focus on AI by Apple they still not meeting other wished for enhancements. Classic first on iOS, eventually iPadOS, still MIA for MacOS. So many want AppleTV search/sorting along with its interface updated. It’s like did Apple forget about anything but hyping AI novelty features? Hey make Safari be able to summarize typed web search queries. Other browsers can do that simply by search engine using AI.
Do people even upgrade their phones because of new features? People upgrade when their current phone slows down, apps stop working with the old OS, etc. Their new phone will happen to have new features. Maybe they'll use the new features, maybe they won't.
I don't think most people find anything majorly lacking in their phones. They do everything they want and need them to, and they do them pretty well. Maybe if a battery breakthrough happens and an iPhone can have double the battery life, without becoming bigger or heavier, that would be a specific draw for upgrading.
I don't think most people find anything majorly lacking in their phones. They do everything they want and need them to, and they do them pretty well. Maybe if a battery breakthrough happens and an iPhone can have double the battery life, without becoming bigger or heavier, that would be a specific draw for upgrading.
As someone prefers to keep older devices for a while after they are obsolete, I did upgrade from a SE3 for new features. The dynamic island, Promotion, USB-C, and 15x zoom/night mode/Action mode on the cameras of the 15Pro were the reason I upgraded. At the same time, I use a SE1 daily for fun.
You are right about nothing being majorly lacking though. I could have used the SE3 just fine until 2027.
A lot used to, remember those reports of lines around the block for the new iphone3/4/5/6 releases? That stuff made the news every year. People wanted to be seen with the latest tech, even if it's by some stranger on the train. Notice something about the 3/4/5 & 6? They were all noticably and visibly different from eachother. you could tell someone had the latest from across the room. These days you could put the last 4-5 years worth of iphones side by side from eachother and struggle to pick which from which.
Some people still do upgrade for the new features each year, but many of those features are now under the hood and don't have the "oh wow is that the new iphone?" draw taht the old ones do. Yes some people are narcisists, yes I lined up for my iphone5.
I'm a simple person when it comes to upgrades
If there's ever a new "reasonably sized iPhone" (iPhone Mini size or smaller) ... I upgrade
My money is apparently quite safe for a long time to come, as Apple seems content to only make various sizes of "patio pavers" for iPhones now
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If there's ever a new "reasonably sized iPhone" (iPhone Mini size or smaller) ... I upgrade
My money is apparently quite safe for a long time to come, as Apple seems content to only make various sizes of "patio pavers" for iPhones now
😂
The design of the phones and iPads have pretty much reached maturity now, and Apple must lean on features, i.e, in order to sell new phones. From what I’ve seen so far, a new head of software needs to be instituted. It’s not that I don’t like Craig because I do. But it appears that someone with more push and new enthusiasm needs to take software in the necessary leading direction now.
You want play, but love slate grey, that's all I needed to know. And a power bank isn't the "only way" to double battery life when other phones in the market at the same price point has a 3 day battery life and is able to reverse charge other devices.
You want reverse charge? Sounds like you want a non-apple phone. You want 3 day battery life. In android that amounts to power off.
And your point is what now?