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Apple Intelligence Isn't Driving iPhone Upgrades

Chungry said:
As they say, thats history. Also, the Apple vision pro would like a word
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It’s a tale as old as time. Samsung throws out a bunch of half-baked stuff hoping it’ll catch on. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. But it doesn’t mean they’re miles ahead.

Just because Apple intentionally released a product unaffordable to most people, so that there would be sufficient content in a few years when the technology is doable at a price and form factor that is appealing to the mast market, does not mean it isn’t the best headset in the market.

Apple.Fanatic said:
The Apple Intelligence release gives me an Apple Maps vibe when it was released. A lot of promises that didn't deliver and it took Apple years to make it decent. Still never as good as other competing services like Google Maps. Something that feels like what this will ultimately be....eventually okay but never as good as other AI services.
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I think this is a pretty good take, although I find that Apple Maps is actually better than Google, and that’s not counting the massive benefit of not sharing my location data with Google. Understand that’s going to be highly location dependent though.

I expect Apple to either get there eventually, or more likely, buy someone.
 
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No kidding. It's the worst release ever.

I have bought every single iPhone since 2007. But this Apple Intelligence is very weak, to say it politely.
I am not one of those anti-AI people. I use AI every day. ChatGPT, ClaudeAI, OpenAI API programming, etc... but Apple has screwed up releasing their AI somehow.
 
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Chungry said:
Imagine the story will be quite different as more companies use on-device models Apple still can't compete with. Gemini compact and Samsung Gauss will prove difficult opponents for differentiation for a company already several years behind the 8 ball
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On device Gemini is so many years away that Apple will have been able to buy and build their way to parity or better IF that makes business sense for them to do.
 
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People want features, not gimmicks. The best feature is Clean Up tool to edit things out of pictures, but Android has been doing that for so long. Remake the OS like iOS 7 completely centered around AI, or take a year off focus on stabilizing and cleaning up the OS. As for hardware there's only so much innovation yo can do at this point. Double battery life, and find some colors people would actually be excited to have.
 
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paulovsouza said:
People want features, not gimmicks.
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I want gimmicks and I want features. I like Memoji and I like genmoji. No play and all work makes you boring.
paulovsouza said:
The best feature is Clean Up tool to edit things out of pictures, but Android has been doing that for so long. Remake the OS like iOS 7 completely centered around AI, or take a year off focus on stabilizing and cleaning up the OS. As for hardware there's only so much innovation yo can do at this point. Double battery life,
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The only way to get double battery life is with a power bank.
paulovsouza said:
and find some colors people would actually be excited to have.
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I love my slate grey.
 
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People in general are adverse to AI. I’ve used all the features of it on my daughters phone and my Mac, and some of it is ok so far, but it’s largely a meh thing you do once or twice and then move on.
 
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Ai needs to have its sock puppet moment already and have the bubble burst. Tired of the overhype and fake intelligence.
 
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jimscard said:
Since developers are just beginning to add the integrations with the APIs that were released as part of 18.2, it’s not a surprise that a survey like that would say that, especially since AI hasn’t been available worldwide or in languages other than English.

For those who have it, and who do things like write a lot, their experiences are quite different, especially those who work in fields where the use of cloud AI services is not an option due to security/privacy concerns. One of the main reasons I upgraded to an iPhone 16 Pro Max was to be able to use AI on my phone (I was already using the betas on my iPad).

What a lot of industry people don’t seem to grasp, though, is how revolutionary what Apple has been adding to their platform is, and how developers can leverage it to truly transform how people use their devices. A lot of the industry press talks down about AI because they’re focused on the cloud AI services, and companies whose business models are based around using your personal information to achieve their goals, whereas Apple Intelligence enables applications to provide the services and information you actually need - privately, without sharing it with those companies (or Apple).

For example, imagine a travel planning app on your iPhone. An email comes in from an airline promoting a discount on flights to Puerto Rico from your local airport - if you book and travel next month. Your personal assistant, Siri, running on your device processes that email, and notices that you’ve set a flag in that travel app for Puerto Rico, and uses an AppIntent from that app to let it know about the sale. The functionality behind that AppIntent runs, asks AI to propose dates for a trip, and pops up a notification asking you if you want it to schedule the trip … All without the airline knowing that you’re interested.
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These are the type of scenarios I look forward to (assuming Apple can pull it off)
 
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Doesn't help matters when you half-assed release a half baked implementation of it. This announcing features and then saying "Just kidding" and trickling them out over a whole year has been tired. This was the thing they needed to knock out as a cohesive suite of things when it was ready for prime time. The rare moment where Apple didn't let technologies gestate for years despite competitors being years ahead.

There is not one AI feature that is what I would even call remotely stable or usable. Every time I read an article touting how great one of the features is, I'm like "Have you actually used it?" Image playground is cartoony and very hit or miss. The memoji is really just stickers and cartoony and very hit or miss. Don't even use the summaries or editing features, and Siri is still as dumb as a box of rocks and rarely hands off anything to ChatGPT which I just use it's own app because it's better.
 
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smulji said:
They would have been better off doing this
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Maybe, but I’m not sure another year of “APPLE IS FALLING BEHIND ON AI!!!!” headlines would have been good for them at all.

They’re playing the long game - despite posts of tech enthusiasts on MacRumors who think they’re Apple’s target customer and can’t seem to think strategically, Apple knows the vast majority of its consumers don’t care about things like AI and AR/VR headsets yet and is proceeding accordingly knowing that every product doesn’t have to immediately be a home run game changer. Most people don’t have a phone that can even run Apple Intelligence, let alone know when they’d might want to use it.
 
Apple.Fanatic said:
The Apple Intelligence release gives me an Apple Maps vibe when it was released. A lot of promises that didn't deliver and it took Apple years to make it decent. Still never as good as other competing services like Google Maps. Something that feels like what this will ultimately be....eventually okay but never as good as other AI services.
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Apple achieved that by buying companies for their tech to intergrate into maps back when there was dozens of companies trying to get into that space (which is not the case anymore).

There are lots of incumbents in AI right now that you don't hear about that will likely collapse or get bought up by big-tech. I'd say Apple could do that again in time, except their privacy stance would be a huge barrier since everyone else is building power stations and server farms running in a cloud first approach.
 
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vantelimus said:
On device Gemini is so many years away that Apple will have been able to buy and build their way to parity or better IF that makes business sense for them to do.
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I await Apple buying their way to a better map program that doesn't take me 45 minutes in the wrong direction to a national park trailhead. If that's a priority I guess. Apple bought Siri and we know how that went
 
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