uncompressed size is bigger, and someone posted a screenshot showing Apple Intelligence occupying an additional 2-3 GB of space with the feature disabled, and that's not counting the space supporting code takes up (which would be counted under "System")
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Apple Intelligence Isn't Driving iPhone Upgrades
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Sorry for misunderstanding your post. Apple Intelligence in the state where it is today is a complete flop and has almost nothing to do with AI whatsoever already possible om competing devices. Apple is giving AI a bad name this way.
By the time it’s useful on Apple … what year are we taking about and for how long will useful AI already be available on competing devices? Apple has to either lower their prices of quadruple down on useful features to compete. I think it will be peak iPhone from now on.
I fail to see any use of AI yet. As the result can be totally fake or stupid everything needs to be checked by some qualified human (me) before using it. And AI has no access to current data but only to internet filed stuff up to some deadline. It fails to be creative or forward looking. It creates some facade but not actual content. Like a filmset.
Still, I expect many companies and governments to move a lot of administrative work and low level decision making to AI for cost reasons. The user and customer will pay for this by getting wrong or bad decisions, however without much delay. It will be fun.
And how about privacy? Your devices will run day and night datamining your private files to profile you for other guys commercial purposes.
Still, I expect many companies and governments to move a lot of administrative work and low level decision making to AI for cost reasons. The user and customer will pay for this by getting wrong or bad decisions, however without much delay. It will be fun.
And how about privacy? Your devices will run day and night datamining your private files to profile you for other guys commercial purposes.
New button is useless, AI is in Beta and not available worldwide. Basically iPhone 16 ProMax is almost the same as 15 Pro Max.
Hopefully iPhone 17 ProMax will have new practical things.
PS: owner of 16PM here
Hopefully iPhone 17 ProMax will have new practical things.
PS: owner of 16PM here
Apple intelligence is a nothingburger. It isn't intuitive; heck, I can't even tell you how to turn it on or off. For that matter, Grammarly on my iPhone, which barely works on the keyboard, is better, which isn't saying much. There is too much hype and not enough substance. Why make it the subject of the update when the implementation is terrible?
Apple Intelligence hasn't convinced people to buy an iPhone 16, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said today. According to Kuo, a supply chain survey suggests Apple Intelligence is not pushing people to upgrade their devices.
The delay between the Apple Intelligence introduction in June 2024 and a launch even after iPhone 16 models came out was a contributing factor, and Apple Intelligence "appeal has significantly declined" compared to cloud-based services like ChatGPT.
There is also no indication that Apple Intelligence will drive Services revenue, as Apple CEO Tim Cook said in December that Apple has never discussed charging for Apple Intelligence. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said that Apple could start charging for Apple Intelligence in 2027 or beyond, but it remains to be seen if that will happen.
All in all, Kuo does not feel that Apple Intelligence is going to benefit Apple in terms of user upgrades or revenue, but there's some hope for the long-term prospects.
Apple Intelligence was the main focus of iOS 18, but when the iPhone 16 models launched in September, there were no Apple Intelligence features available. Writing Tools and other capabilities came in the first update to iOS 18 in October, but Image Playground and Genmoji didn't roll out until December.
There are still Apple Intelligence features that have not been implemented, including major changes to Siri that are rumored to be coming in April.
A December survey suggested that many iPhone users feel that Apple Intelligence has added little or no value to their iPhone experience, though that sentiment could change as Apple Intelligence matures.
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AI's potential is so huge and vast, and the implications are so big that we cannot comprehend what the impact will be. AI, which is, in part, basically automating your behavioural patterns and combined with the knowledge of the rest of the world, will be added to your day. It will help in the future with everything you do on a computer or with a computer.
Maybe not yet. But in the future, for certain.
I think that Apple's AI approach is one of the better approaches. It prioritizes privacy and helps its users. All the others are doing it to maximise profit by stealing from the web without licensing and training their models on everything. Apple is training your LLM on your data for you, which is why the 8GB limit is there. The models are not trained yet. That takes time. And when they are trained for you, they will work.
I have no proof or cannot see if an LLM is already being trained in the memory of an iPhone or Mac, but I think that could be the case. And when the tools are available, the model is, too.
So, the full benefit will be available in a while.
Maybe not yet. But in the future, for certain.
I think that Apple's AI approach is one of the better approaches. It prioritizes privacy and helps its users. All the others are doing it to maximise profit by stealing from the web without licensing and training their models on everything. Apple is training your LLM on your data for you, which is why the 8GB limit is there. The models are not trained yet. That takes time. And when they are trained for you, they will work.
I have no proof or cannot see if an LLM is already being trained in the memory of an iPhone or Mac, but I think that could be the case. And when the tools are available, the model is, too.
So, the full benefit will be available in a while.
I do not see any help from Apple Intelligence at the moment. Siri doesn’t use it anyway it’s just a re-route of “look what I’ve found on the internet” to “you want me to use ChatGPT for that” while others already implemented the things rumored for iOS 19. Apple at the moment is only using hooks to software that’s freely available to anyone and is barely using things developed on their own. So why you think privacy is such a big deal on iPhone while it’s using Google search, google glass, ChatGPT and many others to come up with half baked results? You probably argue that the request you make on your iPhone will be encrypted and third party software can’t tell who’s asking and making a profile of you. They’ve found ways to do so long time ago.
What I don’t understand about the image generation stuff is…
Who needs this routinely?
I’ve been in Web development for two decades and even I have a limited use for “generated images”
Why do people want this and what for?
I agree. Within MR which is an echo chamber apple intelligence is a flop. In the real world I see people using it. I’m using it to see how it can be integrated into things I do on the iPhone.
As a Web Developer myself, the concept of generated images sounded attractive until I saw what people was doing with it. I'll concede that it *could* be interesting and useful, but I also know what the average user is like and I'd just end up with sites totally overpowered with dreck.
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When there’s a useful thing I can do with AI that I can’t easily do myself I happily use it.
So I don’t use it much.
So I don’t use it much.
How could it drive sales? Apple Intelligence is not available in most parts of the world. Maybe its coverage & features improve by the time iPhone 17 is out.
iPhone 18 will probably be the "time to jump on Apple Intelligence" sweet spot. Though it begs the question how far ahead Apple's competitors are by then, and where AI stands in general.
Seems that when all else fails, or when Apple has to play catch-up, they return to their time-old recipe of thinness as "innovation". That makes me think they really are all out of ideas.
I skipped iPhone 16 – and I hardly ever skip on new release. I just saw no point in upgrading from my iPhone 15 PM.
iPhone 18 will probably be the "time to jump on Apple Intelligence" sweet spot. Though it begs the question how far ahead Apple's competitors are by then, and where AI stands in general.
Seems that when all else fails, or when Apple has to play catch-up, they return to their time-old recipe of thinness as "innovation". That makes me think they really are all out of ideas.
I skipped iPhone 16 – and I hardly ever skip on new release. I just saw no point in upgrading from my iPhone 15 PM.
True, but they are not training on your data because you are not submitting it. If you use Google tools, Google uses it to train its models and sell your data to the highest bidder. If you use Chatgpt, it will add to the Chatgpt model. Using other tools 'not from Apple' will add to their respective models, databases, etc. But if you use Safari and Apple-owned tools, that stays within the Apple ecosystem.
The same is true for their LLM. At the moment, I do not know if the model is training on your data. But if so, it is not submitted to a large LLM that everyone can use. Of course, if you use the ChatGPT integration, it will.
In my opinion, Apple AI is not nearly where it should be, and that will take longer than the rest. But while ChatGPT, Microsoft, and the rest will have problems proving where their data comes from (that is LAW in Europe), is that easier for Apple? It comes and stays within your own LLM model.
I am only talking about Apple software, not third-party software. Most are training their model to monetise in the future.
Privacy is a huge deal on the iPhone. Apple is making its business model of privacy. I only use Google Search because all the others do not come near the results of Google. I do not use Google Glass or ChatGPT apps—only the site. If you do not use the tools to profile you and lock your phone to not provide contacts, photos, etc., then it is a lot harder to do so.
I am not an insider. My observations are what I see and know and what I see happening—nothing more.
Yeah, I agree - one wonders how long they keep rolling out the same playbook over and over
I was just watching a Dave2D video on some new laptop comparisons and the MacBook Air is the least "thin and light" of all the ones he was comparing. The whole point of the MBA originally was to blow everyone away with how thin and light it was ... and now it's basically "worst in class" on those metrics
Hard to tell, at this point 14 years and counting.
How about the metrics of performance and battery life?
What a silly opinion piece there.. Apple intelligence is not even really here yet. On screen awareness and LLM Siri will be the real deal, probably even going further into the future, some sort of „on-Vision-awareness“ like chatgpt previews earlier last year for the Apple Vision Pro. When you’re able to look at stuff and converse with Siri about what you’re looking at, that’s gonna be when things become interesting!
They haven’t released any Apple intelligence features here, yet.
But I’ve also not really heard much from people wanting AI one way or another. There is a small group of people who are into AI in general and enthusiastic about it, a bigger group who say they don’t see any use for it out are hostile to it and the biggest group of all know nothing about AI or don’t care one way or the other about it.
But I’ve also not really heard much from people wanting AI one way or another. There is a small group of people who are into AI in general and enthusiastic about it, a bigger group who say they don’t see any use for it out are hostile to it and the biggest group of all know nothing about AI or don’t care one way or the other about it.
The iPhone is, in all aspects, too complicated. The iPhone was, at its core, a phone with benefits. More complex tasks are done on the Mac. Most average users need an iPhone with benefits. AI will only gain success on the iPhone when it delivers simplicity. Until then, failure.
Nobody does. It is useless 99% of the time.
Ignore any post detractors. You got the right idea. You’re doing it right. Good parent!
+1 (although you don’t need me or anyone else to tell you that; keep up your good instincts)