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~Shard~ said:
Very true - I was just thinking more large scale and prevalent.

Actually, I wouldn't consider photovoltaic cells 'wireless power' in the manner that was being discussed. I'd call it "local, independent power generation."

"Wireless Power" as it was discussed here would be better defined as power *generated* somewhere else and *transmitted* to the device. (OK, OK... maybe the Sun's radiant energy could stretch itself into that definition. lol who cares anyway 😉)
 
Porchland said:
Exactly. A Wi-Fi-enabled remote would be a nice brand extension of the AirPort Express. The differences between a Wi-Fi remote, Wi-Fi iPod and Wi-Fi PDA would be so minute that such a device could be THE next-gen iPod.

The device would be handheld and have a small display, which the iPod already has. The only thing new, really, is Wi-Fi and software. I know that Wi-Fi would make the device larger, but I understand that the new 60-gigger is actually a smaller drive. Makes sense to me.

OLED and WiFi would certainly be great additions to the iPod.

But I also like the idea of an OLED panel acting as a 'smart remote' for the existing devices. Airport Express brings us ubiquitous wireless, as well as a great network audio interface. Imagine having a touch-screen OLED panel, totally programmable so that its entire layout and design changes depending on context. It'll be an audio controller with your music library displayed one moment, tap a button which switches the Mac to iPhoto, and you've got a portable, intelligent picture frame. Tap again, and you've got your OS X address book right there in front of you, anywhere. Tap again, and browse your mail.

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... and all the horsepower for this would be in the Mac -- the panel's just displaying what's sent to it over the wireless LAN, and sending user input back to the Mac.
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I've been using Salling Clicker with my Bluetooth-enabled T610. This begins to approach the sort of thing I'm talking about, but is just a little too clunky, limited as you are by the GUI capabilities of the phone's software. A smart panel would provide the kind of 'blank canvas' for Apple to design something truly great to use.
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This is so elegant, I could easily see Apple making it happen. It wouldn't be anything near as complex as Microsoft's ill-fated Mira displays. Just a simple controller and information display, the function of which is decided by software on the Mac.

The possibilities for 3rd party apps would be pretty exciting, too. Something Salling Clicker-esque would be bound to appear.

I'm pretty taken with this idea... 🙂

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And... have the Mac support multiple panels... each user can be doing something different... Combine with Fast User Switching -- let one person play their iTunes through the speakers in one room, controlled by their iPad, and allow another to play their songs in another room via another AirPort Express and iPad...

... my brain's running with this one... 🙂 🙂
 
Analog Kid said:
Third, Wacom probably isn't powering the stylus at all, just measuring the distortion in some field as the stylus passes through (except they're clicky styluses, aren't they... So there must be some signal traveling back...).

I always assumed my Wacom was using magnets. Couldn't the tablet itself be designed to detect minute changes in the distance and angle of a magnetic object (or multiple magnetic objects, which facilitates the use of the multi-button scrollwheel mice)?
 
the future said:
I really don't think OLED is ready yet for desktop displays...
Where those super-thin, extremely energy-efficient OLED displays make even more sense is obviously in Laptops...

while i'm VERY excited about the possibility of OLED displays, there are still some issues with them. they don't have that long of a lifespan, which would be a VERY big bummer for a laptop (less so for an iPod, simply b/c it's cheaper & likely replaced more often). but nevertheless, i would be P.O.'ed if my laptop dimmed out after a few years:

(from Scientific America)
"Their screens put out more than 100 candelas per square meter (about the luminance of a notebook screen) and last tens of thousands of hours (several years of regular use) before they dim to half their original radiance."

but there's no doubt that we'll see them more often & in more creative places. fun stuff!
 
BWhaler said:
I saw Steve at the D conference today, and let me tell you he came down hard on no streaming video.
Sad to hear.

I do many presentations using TVs and projector systems. To be able to do this wirelessly would be so wonderful. I could be at the podium going through the presentation without the connecting wires to the projector/TV.

Dang!

For business, this would be very convenient. PowerPoint on the go wirelessly.

Dang Again!

Sushi
 
On the subject of WiFiPods & Apple Displays...

I understand the desire for a wireless iPod, but I think the downsides make it very unlikely. Namely, it would be both 1) bigger and 2) hungrier. You'd have to plug it in all the time. WiFi would suck up more energy, and my iPod already only lasts about a day for regular use. If I dock it at work, it maintains a charge longer because it's charging over the USB2, but wouldn't the point of WiFi be less wires, and less docking? Therefore less charging. Hungrier power requirements and less charging without massive improvements in battery technology spells no WiFiPod.

Some sort of remote could be neat, but how would such a thing actually work? Assuming a screen and WiFi like everyone seems to be suggesting, I suppose it would Rendezvous for shared iTunes libraries & shared AirTunes speakers. You would select one of each, and then be able to control the shared iTunes to play music over the specified speakers. You would probably then have to give the remote device permission to control your iTunes in this manner, otherwise people could be walking down the street futzing with different iTunes libraries. In a perfect world they wouldn't have access to your network in the first place to do such a thing, but this isn't a perfect world. Even if it was, though, given multiple shared iTunes libraries in a house, and multiple remotes, and multiple speakers, they'd all have to have proper pairing & permissions to work. I have no doubt that Apple could make such things simple and obvious, but you can see how complex such a remote device would ultimately be. I'm sure they're working on it.

Of course, having WiFi would also suck up the power, so the remote would either need better battery technology, or a charging cradle. I guess in that case it would make sense to merge the remote functions with an iPod, and just tell people they have to put it in the cradle all the time to charge it when not in use? Seems inconvenient, though. Damn we need better battery technology!

Finally, for screens, I'm not a designer or creator or anything so, personally, tablets and touch screens aren't very interesting to me (except maybe in a remote/ipod/pda type device). I would just be happy with a wireless display. It wouldn't even have to be portable. It would just be awesome to be able to mount a display on the wall that is able to do one thing: receive video wirelessly. You could have an outlet installed behind it, and, voila: no visible wires! Hang it like a painting. All we'd need then is a DVD player capable of delivering WiFi video, plug the cable box into the DVD player like normal, and all the video I might want to play can be viewed on the screen, including video from our laptops (or "headless" iMac or PowerMac someday). That would be the bomb! Digital hub, indeed - one screen to receive all the video. Too bad they made AirPort Express only for iTunes audio - it would be great to just have a general audio driver to send audio over WiFi to any speakers.

Although I suppose the network would start to get pretty congested with this WiFi screen and WiFi speakers receiving all this video and audio over the air. But they shouldn't have to be on the internet, they could be a separate A/V network, the computer's A/V drivers would send data to them, but other communication would go out on the regular LAN/WAN network...

Ah, dreams. Apple makes them possible! Or at least more fun...
 
Damek said:
I understand the desire for a wireless iPod, but I think the downsides make it very unlikely. Namely, it would be both 1) bigger and 2) hungrier. You'd have to plug it in all the time. WiFi would suck up more energy, and my iPod already only lasts about a day for regular use. If I dock it at work, it maintains a charge longer because it's charging over the USB2, but wouldn't the point of WiFi be less wires, and less docking? Therefore less charging. Hungrier power requirements and less charging without massive improvements in battery technology spells no WiFiPod.

Some sort of remote could be neat, but how would such a thing actually work? Assuming a screen and WiFi like everyone seems to be suggesting, I suppose it would Rendezvous for shared iTunes libraries & shared AirTunes speakers. You would select one of each, and then be able to control the shared iTunes to play music over the specified speakers. You would probably then have to give the remote device permission to control your iTunes in this manner, otherwise people could be walking down the street futzing with different iTunes libraries. In a perfect world they wouldn't have access to your network in the first place to do such a thing, but this isn't a perfect world. Even if it was, though, given multiple shared iTunes libraries in a house, and multiple remotes, and multiple speakers, they'd all have to have proper pairing & permissions to work. I have no doubt that Apple could make such things simple and obvious, but you can see how complex such a remote device would ultimately be. I'm sure they're working on it.

Of course, having WiFi would also suck up the power, so the remote would either need better battery technology, or a charging cradle. I guess in that case it would make sense to merge the remote functions with an iPod, and just tell people they have to put it in the cradle all the time to charge it when not in use? Seems inconvenient, though. Damn we need better battery technology!

Finally, for screens, I'm not a designer or creator or anything so, personally, tablets and touch screens aren't very interesting to me (except maybe in a remote/ipod/pda type device). I would just be happy with a wireless display. It wouldn't even have to be portable. It would just be awesome to be able to mount a display on the wall that is able to do one thing: receive video wirelessly. You could have an outlet installed behind it, and, voila: no visible wires! Hang it like a painting. All we'd need then is a DVD player capable of delivering WiFi video, plug the cable box into the DVD player like normal, and all the video I might want to play can be viewed on the screen, including video from our laptops (or "headless" iMac or PowerMac someday). That would be the bomb! Digital hub, indeed - one screen to receive all the video. Too bad they made AirPort Express only for iTunes audio - it would be great to just have a general audio driver to send audio over WiFi to any speakers.

Although I suppose the network would start to get pretty congested with this WiFi screen and WiFi speakers receiving all this video and audio over the air. But they shouldn't have to be on the internet, they could be a separate A/V network, the computer's A/V drivers would send data to them, but other communication would go out on the regular LAN/WAN network...

Ah, dreams. Apple makes them possible! Or at least more fun...

The new WiFi chip is very small and requires very little power. When Apple converts the scroll-device to the one of the mini, they have some extra room to play around with. This easily gives them enough room to shrink the iPod and add WiFi.

If Apple adds a batter with slightly larger capacity and enables turning off WiFi, people should easily be able to maintain current battery life with WiFi on once in a while. And if they never turned it on, there would be more battery life.
 
DreaminDirector said:
I thought of something interesting. The Wacom is quoted to have "patented cordless, battery-free tablet technology". Battery-free? How is that, I thought...

Now, Firewire can carry power, right? If 802.11g can carry a signal, is there any knowledge whether the new wireless firewire (there was an article about and I apologize I don't have the link...) can carry power? Wireless power?

Is that even possible?



wacom pen uses no batteries, insteat it relies on a magnetic coil to trasmit it's location to the usb powered pad.


wireless power??? the only way that i have heard that this is possible is by using light, or more specifically lasors, that focus on a dedicated "solar" panel that is tuned to the lasors light frequency and intensity and is therefore much more powerful then the usual run of the mill solar panel.

the military has made prototype drones that are powered using lasors.



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Wacom!

Pardon me if this info has already been posted, but I didn't have time to read the entire thread.

Wacom has just dropped the price of the Clintiq 18SX by $1000. Certainly seems to be a hint that it's getting replaced shortly.

Source
 
Ok, multiple things here, and alot have already been said, but mainly just think about whyapple would shoose to release the airport extreme weeks before WWDC. Personally, I view this as a major new product, so to be released this early on legitimately shows that it is only a peice in Apples larger upcoming picture. We have read the rumors for months about an Apple wireless media hub, but to come out and be so small and useful...apple has done it again!!

2nd, Steve Jobs is happy about not releasing a PDA. Now why could that be? Looking at my current iPod, it has a contact list, music, calendar, and many other functions, so whats lacking? A touch screen. That single addition transforms the iPod from a simple mp3 player into a unbelievablly functional PDA. And did you see how small the Airport Wireless is? If the iPodutilized this OLED technology and the mini scrollwheel, it would offer much more space even in the current design. I dont think apple would introduce us to Airport Express only to end it at that with no remote, and considering the iPod is Apples digital music baby, I dont see any reason it would have been designed without the iPod in mind, besides the obvious lack of bluetooth.

3rd...I dont know where the concepts went, but they basically shoed an ipod sized PDA, that opened up to be a widescreen PDA that was twice as wide. Now, to my understanding, OLED technology can be folded over in just such a manner, so you could have a tablet that is actually just a little larger than an iPod in your pocket, but folded open would be PERFECT! 😛

Just getting excited, but if there are this many rumors/products being released this early, and if the powermac G5 updates do come early 🙂() then either WWDC is going to suck, or they have a lot of new products that we have no clue about. And with all the suprises they have been announcing, I wonder of 970fx G5 laptops with OLED could be TOO far off.

😀
 
DreaminDirector said:
I thought of something interesting. The Wacom is quoted to have "patented cordless, battery-free tablet technology". Battery-free? How is that, I thought...

Now, Firewire can carry power, right? If 802.11g can carry a signal, is there any knowledge whether the new wireless firewire (there was an article about and I apologize I don't have the link...) can carry power? Wireless power?

Is that even possible?
kinda. there are these "pads" out there that you can set your devices down on and they charge. as for power over wireless firewire, no way.
i highly recommend looking into Nikola Tesla. He had an entire wireless lab in turn-of-the-century US. crazycrazy stuff. check him out at Wikipedia.
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Larz said:
And I was wondering why Alias Sketchbook Pro was just released for Mac OS X. This software was originally made (and comes with) Tablet PC's. It was designed to be used without a keyboard...

kody@50caliber. said:
Pardon me if this info has already been posted, but I didn't have time to read the entire thread.

Wacom has just dropped the price of the Clintiq 18SX by $1000. Certainly seems to be a hint that it's getting replaced shortly.

Source

As I commented in another thread on the OS X Alias sketchbook release...That and the price drop are developments that seem to point to some sort of Apple device where you can write on screen (besides the obvious of buying a Cintiq). This would be especially welcomed by the huge numbers of artists out there who use Macs everyday and especially those who could never get used to the hand eye separation that occurs with regular tablets. It would be a large market for Apple and one they should definitely lock down before tablet PC’s (or their concept) make too many inroads. I doubt it would be OLED but if it offered 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity it would be on par with the Wacom Intuos 2 and as it would license their tech they wouldn’t get angry.

Plus, too, could also be maybe Apple is going to release some sort of pro painting/sketching app? I'm sure they could do it better than Painter 😉
 
Samsung OLED

Samsung SDI, the Korean giant's display division, announced this week prototypes of a 17-inch active matrix organic light emitting diode (OLED) display. Set for launch next year, the display has a resolution of 1600x1200 pixels and a brightness of 400 lumens, and is the largest OLED matrix display to date, according to the company.

It will consume no more power than a 15-inch display and be a third of the thickness of existing liquid-crystal display models, the company said. The prototype will be shown at the 2004 Society for Information Display (SID) conference, which starts May 25 in Seattle.

http://news.com.com/Samsung+unveils...41_3-5217269.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=news
 
scottkle said:
In response to a previous post, cintiq tablets are nothing short of incredible.

What I don't understand though is why Apple would want to make wacom mad by stepping in on their turf.

To heck with Wacom - ever since they decided to not support their ADB tablets on OSX because "OSX's ADB driver is too slow" I don't see them as anything other than money-grubbing. LOTS of people had to junk their perfectly good tablets and buy again, and that stings.

Kensington is awesome - they support my old ADB trackball, even through an ADB/USB adapter. I buy their stuff. Wacom unfortunately has a monopoly in this space, so we should welcome the competition.

Touchscreen and tablets and displays are approaching an inflection point. It's too bad that certain companies become obsolete as technology marches on, but to rue the day the buggy whip plant closed is never a good idea.
 
BWhaler said:
Steve said that their research shows people don't want to stream video. You put a DVD in a DVD player and play it. Walt pressed him and said, well you guys make iMovie and those videos are on a hard drive, and Steve responded that you can burn a DVD with a SuperDrive.

What about iPhoto? No one asked that question, but I doubt with today's release a video version is coming soon since it would piss off customers who are buying this month, plus, what would they call it? Airport Express AV?

Y'know, a clever hacker could take advantage of the ALS codec and the optical out to interpose a video device which could decode video encoded up to the maximum ALS data rate the AExpress supports. You'd just have to hook into the iTunes library on the client side and send a special video start header which the interposing hardware device would intercept. I'm sure it would be tough to multiplex it with iTunes without Apple's help so it'd be an either-or setup for any given time.

This is a public forum, so don't go filing a patent on that now.
 
TednDi said:
put your ipod down on the mousepad and it charges....
www.splashpower.com/prod1.html

Who uses a mousepad anymore?

But seriously, that'd be kinda cool. It'd be neat to just have a clear spot on a shelf by the door or the bed or whever with one of these pads on it, and every night you just leave your phone and iPod and stuff on it. A small improvement over a separate proprietary dock or charger cable for each and every device. One cable instead of several, and they could all sit on the same pad.
 
Oled lifespan + blue pixels

potterfast said:
Samsung SDI, the Korean giant's display division, announced this week prototypes of a 17-inch active matrix organic light emitting diode (OLED) display. Set for launch next year, the display has a resolution of 1600x1200 pixels and a brightness of 400 lumens, and is the largest OLED matrix display to date, according to the company.
This is interesting, particularly given Apple's connections with Samsung (displays) in the past.

And, if anyone's seen a working OLED, like on the Kodak EasyShare LS633 (review), you know just how stunning they can be. An OLED of 15 or 17 inches should be almost unspeakably beautiful.

But...

BASF wrote the following in a presentation last October:

"The second challenge consists in the lifetime of the material combinations used for the colors red, green and blue. Values of more than 10,000 hours are already possible for red and green, but blue pixels show a marked reduction in luminescent intensity long before then and have a lifetime of only 2,000 hours. Long-term stability must be extended for OLEDs to be used in cell phones, PDAs or even laptops, and the rate of degradation should be approximately the same for all colors in order to prevent a color shift occurring in the display."

I wonder if these problems have been overcome, or if we'll all be complaining about dark, yellow displays in 18 months?
 
DreaminDirector said:
I thought of something interesting. The Wacom is quoted to have "patented cordless, battery-free tablet technology". Battery-free? How is that, I thought...

Now, Firewire can carry power, right? If 802.11g can carry a signal, is there any knowledge whether the new wireless firewire (there was an article about and I apologize I don't have the link...) can carry power? Wireless power?

Is that even possible?
SuperChuck said:
I always assumed my Wacom was using magnets. Couldn't the tablet itself be designed to detect minute changes in the distance and angle of a magnetic object (or multiple magnetic objects, which facilitates the use of the multi-button scrollwheel mice)?

According to Wacom:

Cintiq pens operate without batteries or connecting cords by taking advantage of an electro-magnetic signal sent from a sensor board under the LCD to the pen and returned for analysis. A grid of wires in the sensor board alternates between transmit and receive modes about every 20 microseconds. In transmit mode, the sensor board’s signal stimulates oscillation in a coil-and-capacitor resonant circuit in the pen. In receive mode, the energy of the resonant circuit oscillations in the pen is detected by the sensor board’s antenna grid and analyzed for position, pressure and other information.

Junebugs, Apple products, what more could anyone want? 😉
–Chase
 
I looked at the artist sketch at thinksecret. Looks like BS. How would a 30in screen not tip left and right with that tiny foot. Non-the-less bring on the new screens. NOW.
 
Perhaps that huge cavity

In the Powermac G5 artist's rendering may be for the new 30" power supply?
 
From the look of this new display it looks like Apple wants to enter the TV market like Dell, but its a little unfortunate that this 30'' Monster would only be available for the PowerMac G5s. Still good news for me since I could now buy a 20'' at a cheaper price or better yet a 23'' at the cost of a 20'', cause I highly doubt Apple would increase the price of already high priced displays. Also I like the idea of being able to save money on that damn ADC-DVI adapter for my Powerbook!! 😀 At first it seem a little ugly but I remember back when ThinkSecret broke the story of 3G iPods and I thought the artist rendering showed an ugly-looking iPod, but once released I thought they were actually much more beautiful than my 1G iPod, so we'll see in the coming days as I tend to keep an open ear to ThinkSecret.
 
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