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Apple Introduces 24" LED Cinema Display with Built-in iSight
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Thanks, Umbongo!
I've just thought it's a bit weird to rollout a monitor limited by such a narrow segment, while the whole ACD line-up has not been refreshed for such a long time.
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Thanks a lot. Now it works.
I personally do not believe that there will be any professional ACD released that would have a matte screen. I am following Apple for too many years and I just don't believe it. The new thing is Alu and Glass together with Black. This is the new design and it will be introduced into all products. Lets hope for the next best thing in design. It will probably follow in 3-5 years.
Agreed. The site does compare the ACDs to the newer NEC and Eizo panels that do have the newer H-IPS panels, at a $400 price increase. Which isn't bad at all.
Though, there weren't any Dells or HP monitors above 2 stars, and the only ones that did make it to 4 and five were the other big three manufacturers.
Thanks for this link by the way. I think you should spread the news to everyone, as I will do myself.
Dell 2208 driver for Mac?
I just bought a Mac and this may be a dumb question but, is there any way to install the driver for a Dell monitor onto the mac pro? I think its just for windows but I cant find a driver for Mac anywhere. The monitor works but I want to use the built in web-cam and use the usb ports in the side of the monitor? Any help would be most appreciated.
I just bought a Mac and this may be a dumb question but, is there any way to install the driver for a Dell monitor onto the mac pro? I think its just for windows but I cant find a driver for Mac anywhere. The monitor works but I want to use the built in web-cam and use the usb ports in the side of the monitor? Any help would be most appreciated.
There's no driver available. If the webcam doesn't work with the stock OSX drivers, it's not going to work.
There's no HDMI or DVI because that would require much more electronics and cost in the display. DisplayPort is a direct drive technology with chip to chip communication. http://www.displayport.org/simpler-setup/Direct-Drive.htm
Sorry, but that site is a joke. They rate the NEC MultiSync 2690WUXi (which I have owned, btw) as 3 stars. Then they rate the same monitor but with the SpectraView (calibrator) package as 5 stars.
So, I guess that means that when calibrated, the ACD's go from 2 stars to 4 stars, then? Worthless...
Also, for those knocking this display for not being "professional" enough, I'd say don't knock it until you've tried it. I've railed against glossy displays here in the past. But the fact is that after calibration, if a display produces the correct range of colors, AND does it without the annoying grain and sparkle effect of most IPS matte displays (see: all older ACD's), then it's as good or better.
It will be for the whole line pretty soon. Steve clearly stated that Apple will include the DisplayPorts on all new computers from now on.
Expect the 20" and 30" to look identical and the current CinemaDisplay to be discontinued.
Just wondering when this is gonna happen. LED display for 30" is still very expensive now.
I second both points. If Apple does consume the matte option for pro users I would gladly buy a 23" ACD for dirt cheap, or step up to a 24" NEC for around $1200. Not that glossy bothers me that much, but I feel the lack of FW400 and weird design is the killer for me. I just don't use that much devices that take USB.
Pro Photo Matte Preference...
Hmmm...I am sitting here in front of my 20" iMac/White/Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz/Matte Screen with my graphics tablet to my right, multi-card reader under display and my Nikon D80 to my left. I am wondering why I have been lusting after a new Glossy 24" iMac and 13" MacBookPro(obviously Glossy). No, I am not a "pro shooter", but just a hobbyist, amateur photographer, but am consistently asked by friends and acquaintances that have seen my work, to shoot for them, and I do. At last check I had over 20K pics in iPhoto. No, they are not all "keepers" and I am constantly trying to catch up on deleting the less than good shots, but overall, a large percentage of my photos are loved by myself, family and friends. I am the 'go to' guy when anyone in our circle of people(co-workers, friends, family, friends of family, etc.) needs advice on a new camera, VidCam, Computer, TV, etc. I love helping out as much as I can and have even been given cash and a 'list' and picked out and purchased gear for my circle dwellers. Enough of the 'credentials', if you will, but I am just saying I love photography, have an eye for composition and color/lighting and would go pro if not being compensated extremely well at my career, and having a wife and two young boys, do not want a second career.
My loooong-winded point??? I feel that my 'matte' screen washes out the colors that I remember that I shot, and when I shop the new glossies and open up iPhoto at the store, I am taken aback at how the images pop. The color, saturation, perceived depth, contrast, sharpness, etc. They just seem to blow my 'matte' screen away, especially the iMacs. Reflections....yes, they are there, when I look for them, but my eyes seem to see the photo until I tell them to look for other stuff. I don't own Photoshop or any other photo editor, but for iPhoto, and I rarely use it to do anything other than straighten, crop, turn into B& W, red eye removal if shot with my wife's Canon PowerShot SD 450(5MP, a good 5 years old, I think, but takes quite excellent pics for a P&S). I have never calibrated my screen and have had great success with nearly all of my prints. They come out just as I remember them when I composed them and look better than they do on my monitor and close to my 52" Samsung Glossy LCD that I stream my photos to via my PS3 in HD. "Pop" they go on the on the GLOSSY screen, Blah(not really blah, I love my Mac and everything Apple) on the 'matte' iMac. OK, I am exaggerating, but I always thought and read somewhere that Glossy Screens, despite the glare, give a more accurate representation of photos, especially colors. Sorry for babbling on, but, I am in a babbling mood.
I guess I will find out for myself when I make my purchase.
Cheers,
lar
Hmmm...I am sitting here in front of my 20" iMac/White/Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz/Matte Screen with my graphics tablet to my right, multi-card reader under display and my Nikon D80 to my left. I am wondering why I have been lusting after a new Glossy 24" iMac and 13" MacBookPro(obviously Glossy). No, I am not a "pro shooter", but just a hobbyist, amateur photographer, but am consistently asked by friends and acquaintances that have seen my work, to shoot for them, and I do. At last check I had over 20K pics in iPhoto. No, they are not all "keepers" and I am constantly trying to catch up on deleting the less than good shots, but overall, a large percentage of my photos are loved by myself, family and friends. I am the 'go to' guy when anyone in our circle of people(co-workers, friends, family, friends of family, etc.) needs advice on a new camera, VidCam, Computer, TV, etc. I love helping out as much as I can and have even been given cash and a 'list' and picked out and purchased gear for my circle dwellers. Enough of the 'credentials', if you will, but I am just saying I love photography, have an eye for composition and color/lighting and would go pro if not being compensated extremely well at my career, and having a wife and two young boys, do not want a second career.
My loooong-winded point??? I feel that my 'matte' screen washes out the colors that I remember that I shot, and when I shop the new glossies and open up iPhoto at the store, I am taken aback at how the images pop. The color, saturation, perceived depth, contrast, sharpness, etc. They just seem to blow my 'matte' screen away, especially the iMacs. Reflections....yes, they are there, when I look for them, but my eyes seem to see the photo until I tell them to look for other stuff. I don't own Photoshop or any other photo editor, but for iPhoto, and I rarely use it to do anything other than straighten, crop, turn into B& W, red eye removal if shot with my wife's Canon PowerShot SD 450(5MP, a good 5 years old, I think, but takes quite excellent pics for a P&S). I have never calibrated my screen and have had great success with nearly all of my prints. They come out just as I remember them when I composed them and look better than they do on my monitor and close to my 52" Samsung Glossy LCD that I stream my photos to via my PS3 in HD. "Pop" they go on the on the GLOSSY screen, Blah(not really blah, I love my Mac and everything Apple) on the 'matte' iMac. OK, I am exaggerating, but I always thought and read somewhere that Glossy Screens, despite the glare, give a more accurate representation of photos, especially colors. Sorry for babbling on, but, I am in a babbling mood.
I guess I will find out for myself when I make my purchase.
Cheers,
lar
You should write advertising, if you don't do so already. That said and done, how do your colors, saturation, perceived depth, contrast, sharpness, etc. look when you are in a real indoor room in a house, apartment, or office, and have a window directly in the reflected line of sight of the screen behind you or behind to either side?
I'll tell you how they look. Like a big white square of glare making it impossible to see anything at all behind it.
And if you are computing in a small room or office where it is impossible to move the position of your desk and thereby the angle in relation to the window or, in some offices, WALL of windows, or on a packed desk where you can't easily move your iMac (like I do), you would immediately realize the DESPERATE need for a matte screen option, and why most of us are sticking with the last matte screen iMac we could get, the 2.33 24" until Apple comes out with an option.
Either that or the old cinema displays.
Apple needs to offer the option right down and up the line; please don't thwart it if you don't need or understand it.
You should write advertising, if you don't do so already. That said and done, how do your colors, saturation, perceived depth, contrast, sharpness, etc. look when you are in a real indoor room in a house, apartment, or office, and have a window directly in the reflected line of sight of the screen behind you or behind to either side?
I'll tell you how they look. Like a big white square of glare making it impossible to see anything at all behind it.
And if you are computing in a small room or office where it is impossible to move the position of your desk and thereby the angle in relation to the window or, in some offices, WALL of windows, or on a packed desk where you can't easily move your iMac (like I do), you would immediately realize the DESPERATE need for a matte screen option, and why most of us are sticking with the last matte screen iMac we could get, the 2.33 24" until Apple comes out with an option.
Either that or the old cinema displays.
Apple needs to offer the option right down and up the line; please don't thwart it if you don't need or understand it.
Whilst I agree Apple should offer the option, I don't agree that the ACD is the reflection monster you're making it out to be. I have the new ACD along with a matte Dell 2470 sitting side by side and the ACD's colour and sharpness blow it away. And are you really saying that you can't move the monitor so that it faces away from a window? Do you work in a greenhouse?
Thwarting What I Don't Need But Understand...
Wow, somebody sounds quite frustrated. And I don't think it is completely caused by the lack of a Matte option by Apple, or by people with differing opinions and needs, which they do entirely understand.
I don't believe you read my entire ' THWART ' from beginning to end. If you did, it must be you having a hard time UNDERSTANDING, since all I did was what everyone on this and nearly every online forum in the world does, give my opinion and my need. Just like you did, only I did so without putting anyone down(until now).
It is obvious that some people are going to prefer glossy over matte and vice versa and last I checked it is perfectly fine to voice one's opinion on that and any other subject on their mind. Since I am shopping for a new Mac or two, I end up with an opinion planted strongly, based on everything except lack of understanding.
I mentioned the photos 'popping' out at me while shopping in a store. I didn't mention that the store was a Best Buy, lit like the sun, and somehow, I managed to see the photos, notice some glare(like there isn't ANY glare on a matte screen, even) and nearly pull out my wallet. What stopped me??? I can get a discount through the Apple Store, so, saving some cash made me wait. That, and now I have heard some rumors of an iMac update sooner rather than later. So, I can live with my matte screen for now, as, like I said, I do love my iMac. I think its in its fourth year and is still running like new, maybe better than new on account of the addition of 2GB of Ram, for a total of the max. 3GB.
In closing(for evah!!!) I offer you two words: Window Treatments. They help my matte Mac, even.
I also offer you this, please don't thwart it if you don't need or understand it
Cheers!!!
You should write advertising, if you don't do so already. That said and done, how do your colors, saturation, perceived depth, contrast, sharpness, etc. look when you are in a real indoor room in a house, apartment, or office, and have a window directly in the reflected line of sight of the screen behind you or behind to either side?
I'll tell you how they look. Like a big white square of glare making it impossible to see anything at all behind it.
And if you are computing in a small room or office where it is impossible to move the position of your desk and thereby the angle in relation to the window or, in some offices, WALL of windows, or on a packed desk where you can't easily move your iMac (like I do), you would immediately realize the DESPERATE need for a matte screen option, and why most of us are sticking with the last matte screen iMac we could get, the 2.33 24" until Apple comes out with an option.
Either that or the old cinema displays.
Apple needs to offer the option right down and up the line; please don't thwart it if you don't need or understand it.
Wow, somebody sounds quite frustrated. And I don't think it is completely caused by the lack of a Matte option by Apple, or by people with differing opinions and needs, which they do entirely understand.
I don't believe you read my entire ' THWART ' from beginning to end. If you did, it must be you having a hard time UNDERSTANDING, since all I did was what everyone on this and nearly every online forum in the world does, give my opinion and my need. Just like you did, only I did so without putting anyone down(until now).
It is obvious that some people are going to prefer glossy over matte and vice versa and last I checked it is perfectly fine to voice one's opinion on that and any other subject on their mind. Since I am shopping for a new Mac or two, I end up with an opinion planted strongly, based on everything except lack of understanding.
I mentioned the photos 'popping' out at me while shopping in a store. I didn't mention that the store was a Best Buy, lit like the sun, and somehow, I managed to see the photos, notice some glare(like there isn't ANY glare on a matte screen, even) and nearly pull out my wallet. What stopped me??? I can get a discount through the Apple Store, so, saving some cash made me wait. That, and now I have heard some rumors of an iMac update sooner rather than later. So, I can live with my matte screen for now, as, like I said, I do love my iMac. I think its in its fourth year and is still running like new, maybe better than new on account of the addition of 2GB of Ram, for a total of the max. 3GB.
In closing(for evah!!!) I offer you two words: Window Treatments. They help my matte Mac, even.
I also offer you this, please don't thwart it if you don't need or understand it
Cheers!!!
I love my Glossy Display
I absolutely love my Glossy 24" Cinema display. The colors are much more true and real then on a matte screen. I must say when I upgraded from my old mac book pro matte to the new glossy mbp it took a few days to get use to it. But i'm also one of those that immediately tries to find faults in any product I buy. I guess I complete my own internal review of sorts with stuff to figure out if it has enough pluses vs minus...
My display is right next to a window and I don't experience any glare.
Again, I think when you first look at a glossy display you may notice some glare but your eyes will quickly adjust to looking beyond the surface of the screen. At least for me they did!
I absolutely love my Glossy 24" Cinema display. The colors are much more true and real then on a matte screen. I must say when I upgraded from my old mac book pro matte to the new glossy mbp it took a few days to get use to it. But i'm also one of those that immediately tries to find faults in any product I buy. I guess I complete my own internal review of sorts with stuff to figure out if it has enough pluses vs minus...
My display is right next to a window and I don't experience any glare.
Again, I think when you first look at a glossy display you may notice some glare but your eyes will quickly adjust to looking beyond the surface of the screen. At least for me they did!
Terrific. Apple changes its mind, backtracks, and sends in the glossy shills
Tedious, predictable, and oh-so Apple.
And why they will continue to lose market share apart from the iCrap division (until cheaper competition wipes that out.)
Just when there's a ray of light at the end of the tunnel... Jobs comes back.
Tedious, predictable, and oh-so Apple.
And why they will continue to lose market share apart from the iCrap division (until cheaper competition wipes that out.)
Just when there's a ray of light at the end of the tunnel... Jobs comes back.
Yeah this is why Apple keeps on selling more and more Macs.Tedious, predictable, and oh-so Apple.
And why they will continue to lose market share apart from the iCrap division (until cheaper competition wipes that out.)
Just when there's a ray of light at the end of the tunnel... Jobs comes back.
Connecting cinema display with PC
HI guys,
I got my pc laptop() and I want to buy apple cinema display 27".
Will it be possible to attach with pc laptop.
As per as i know Apple using minidisplay port and pc needs vga to dvi adapter
then dvi to minidisplay adapter for running it through.
Is that adapter really avialable??
pls help..
HI guys,
I got my pc laptop() and I want to buy apple cinema display 27".
Will it be possible to attach with pc laptop.
As per as i know Apple using minidisplay port and pc needs vga to dvi adapter
then dvi to minidisplay adapter for running it through.
Is that adapter really avialable??
pls help..