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Even if I was a student, This still
Does Not interest me, not until they can revamp the User Interface and overall lay out. Let's see what WWDC holds.
 
The only free streaming option I can think of is Spotify's free tier. If you want to stream music, there aren't that many options that are cheaper than Apple either, if any. Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play Music, etc. all charge $10 a month.
There are a lot of free ones, and there are a lot of cheaper ones than Apple Music. Pandora, 8track, AOL Radio just to name a few.

They may not be the exact same thing as Apple Music, but they are a cheaper or free alternative to Apple Music.

If you buy your music to own it, at $10 a month, that's what? One album? Whereas with a streaming service you can listen to hundreds, if not thousands of songs. So, I'm not sure that I agree with your assessment.

It depends on your listening habit. I generally listen to 90's Alternative. There are other songs I like, but mostly stuff from the 90's. @ $10 a month, I can buy most of the songs I would listen too.

With Apple Music, after a while of using the service I would be eventually paying more songs that I could have purchased individually.

Using a mix of the free services, with buying the songs I want, in the long run I would be spending less money. Plus, I only spend the money once for the song, with Apple Music, if you stop paying, then you lose everything.

I know this is not for everyone, and Apple Music would be best for some, but I think more people enjoy music similarly to the way I do.

If the price was a cheaper, like the $4.99 for students, I would more likely use the service, but not at $10 a month.
 
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It needs to be all one Apple subscription, I'd pay like £10 a month for Apple Music and iCloud storage and whatever else like I do Amazon prime.

I'm not however paying 10 a month just for music, that's more expensive than actually owning it and the artist gets less money.
 
I hate to break it to you mate, but I really don't think they do.
Maybe not, but considering the number of Apple Music subs compared to the number of people that own Apple devices, I betting that people want to use alternative ways to listen to music.
 
Your move, Spotify.

I'm not sure how long they've had student discount for but this might persuade quite a lot of people to move to Apple Music.

It seems a lot of people are still with Spotify simply because of the student discount. Now that both have it, it'll be interesting to see how many people jump ship.
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And other countries? Tim where's your equality?

Can you read?

"U.S. students won't be the only ones to benefit though, as the plan is also open to students in the U.K., Germany, Denmark, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. The actual cost is expected to vary slightly from country to country, but all markets will see 50 percent off the standard subscription rate."
 
and Apple will encourage users to use a simplified "For You" section

The "For You" section isn't complicated though, its just rubbish.

"An introduction to..." an artist you already know. A lot of obvious mainstream tracks based on another artist you like... Every suggestion in their is utter garbage, its the most basic algorithmic music discovery.

Spotify on the other hand had its weekly "Discovery" list and manages to pull in 30-40 tracks I'd not heard before in not just styles but timbres that completely resonate with me, it's incredible.

A keep a sub to both open and iTunes Match. I mainly keep Apple Music for its library organisation, its far better than Spotify which just feels like a mass of playlists in a sidebar. Both had tracks the other doesn't but Spotify is faster to navigate and has a better backend for streaming on slow connections plus far superior music discovery and even preset playlists.

But considering both cost less than one trip for two to the cinema or a very cheap meal out or 4 pints in the UK they're a bargain. Especially considering I listened to 927 artists on Spotify and i largely swapped to Apple Music for a fair few months after it launched.
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Last year was the first time the combined income from streaming and digital downloads matched the income from physical sales so the number of people streaming are still in the minority.

That wasnt my point...at all.
 
isnt showing up in UK

Yep, same here. Halfway through the 3 month trial here reverting to the £9.99 tier once done; no option for the student deal (I have a UNIDAYS account via Open University ready to authenticate a la my student Spotify Premium subscription). Only option is to upgrade to the £14.99 family tier.

Hopefully will go live soon.
 
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I'm not sure how long they've had student discount for but this might persuade quite a lot of people to move to Apple Music.

It seems a lot of people are still with Spotify simply because of the student discount. Now that both have it, it'll be interesting to see how many people jump ship.
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Can you read?

"U.S. students won't be the only ones to benefit though, as the plan is also open to students in the U.K., Germany, Denmark, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. The actual cost is expected to vary slightly from country to country, but all markets will see 50 percent off the standard subscription rate."
I think he was referring to countries that won't be getting this Student Membership option for Apple Music. For example, it seems the Netherlands isn't going to have this. Pity, as I do study and would really prefer the lower subscription costs. :p
 
Maybe not, but considering the number of Apple Music subs compared to the number of people that own Apple devices, I betting that people want to use alternative ways to listen to music.

Well you're not really into music so I'd recommend you just go to Youtube and listen to the handful of music you're into for free?
 
Sorry, I thought you meant more people were using streaming than those who are still buying music.

No I was riffing on his lack of interest in music.

But re that, I've always worked in the music industry and people listening for free on Youtube (where artists and songwriters get basically nothing, especially in the UK as they agreed an awful deal with PRS) far far more than they're buying even digital releases nevermind physical.
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I am into music, maybe just a different way than you.

You just said that you could buy all the music you ever need to listen to for less than $10 a month and its all 90's alternative, you're really not what anyone would consider a music fan.

Its like me pretending i'm a movie fan. I get 5 FREE tickets a year to the cinema, i value it so little i'm lucky if I only use one. I like some cult movies, i have a collection at home. I cannot be considered a movie buff.
 
"The student discount is offered for up to four continuous or non-continuous years after sign-up, so students are able to take gap years or breaks between semesters and still sign up again when they return to study."

Wait, does this mean that I could say at the end of a course subscribe at the discount rate and keep it for four years?

I know it's unlikely but the way it's written sounds like it might be possible, I know with e.g. MS dreamspark I have to get that reverified every year by confirming it with my ac email address.
 
i've been trying to activate this student plan since you wrote the article but no option yet.
i also started a chat with apple music billing support. all they said is:

"Actually, Apple Music for Students was not yet been released.
AgathaI can't comment on rumors about decisions, products, programs, or promotions that Apple hasn’t officially announced."

basically, its not out yet or they aren't allowed to activate this :(
 
You just said that you could buy all the music you ever need to listen to for less than $10 a month and its all 90's alternative, you're really not what anyone would consider a music fan.

I never said that. I said I mainly listen to 90's alternative. I do listen to other stuff. Plus, I never said I can purchase all my music, I said most.

Here is my quote
I generally listen to 90's Alternative. There are other songs I like, but mostly stuff from the 90's. @ $10 a month, I can buy most of the songs I would listen too.


Beside, who are you to say someone is or is not a fan of music for liking a particular genre? So, if I mainly listen to classical music, which I do like, does that mean I am not a fan of music? I play the piano and guitar, but I am not a fan of music, right? What a joke.
 
Did anyone try to move forward/backward an Apple Music song using that super skinny indicator? You need you have a finger the size of a needle and eyes with laser precision to be able to move it. Thank you Tim Kardashian and Sir Jony for another beautiful designed skinny/transparent cursor !
 
Very interested in this now. £10 a month was a bit steep, but £5 seems WELL worth it.

I would use Spotify, but I really can't stand the UI.
I think Spotify is much nicer. It also has 'connect' so you can control from one device and play on another. Useful because my PC is connected to my 5.1 speakers, but I can work and control music on my Mac.

That said, Apple Music has its own unique features that are impressive. The student discount is a huge incentive now, as before it, Spotify was a no-brainer for students.

I may switch to Apple Music if the new design / features revealed at WWDC are impressive enough.
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There are a lot of free ones, and there are a lot of cheaper ones than Apple Music. Pandora, 8track, AOL Radio just to name a few.

They may not be the exact same thing as Apple Music, but they are a cheaper or free alternative to Apple Music.



It depends on your listening habit. I generally listen to 90's Alternative. There are other songs I like, but mostly stuff from the 90's. @ $10 a month, I can buy most of the songs I would listen too.

With Apple Music, after a while of using the service I would be eventually paying more songs that I could have purchased individually.

Using a mix of the free services, with buying the songs I want, in the long run I would be spending less money. Plus, I only spend the money once for the song, with Apple Music, if you stop paying, then you lose everything.

I know this is not for everyone, and Apple Music would be best for some, but I think more people enjoy music similarly to the way I do.

If the price was a cheaper, like the $4.99 for students, I would more likely use the service, but not at $10 a month.
I get your point, and for you, streaming music is not the way to go. That's just you. But I don't think it's fair to attack the $10 price tag - that's industry standard across Spotify, Deezer etc
 
I'm not sure how long they've had student discount for but this might persuade quite a lot of people to move to Apple Music.

It seems a lot of people are still with Spotify simply because of the student discount. Now that both have it, it'll be interesting to see how many people jump ship.
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Can you read?

"U.S. students won't be the only ones to benefit though, as the plan is also open to students in the U.K., Germany, Denmark, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. The actual cost is expected to vary slightly from country to country, but all markets will see 50 percent off the standard subscription rate."
Yes I can read, but can you count?
 
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I get your point, and for you, streaming music is not the way to go. That's just you. But I don't think it's fair to attack the $10 price tag - that's industry standard across Spotify, Deezer etc

I agree with you, that AM is not for everyone.
I don't think at any point I attacked the price of AM, I just said that with cheaper alternative, it isn't for everyone. It was in response to this post:
The only free streaming option I can think of is Spotify's free tier. If you want to stream music, there aren't that many options that are cheaper than Apple either, if any. Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play Music, etc. all charge $10 a month.
There are cheaper alternatives.

As of right now, with my already large collection of music, AM wouldn't be a good choice for me. The student pricing makes the service more appealing, but I probably still won't try it considering the price will be back to full in 4 years.
 
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