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I never said that. I said I mainly listen to 90's alternative. I do listen to other stuff. Plus, I never said I can purchase all my music, I said most.
Beside, who are you to say someone is or is not a fan of music for liking a particular genre? So, if I mainly listen to classical music, which I do like, does that mean I am not a fan of music? I play the piano and guitar, but I am not a fan of music, right? What a joke.

If you can purchase nearly all the music want for under $10 a month, you're not a big music fan. It used to cost me $20 PER RECORD for ONE SINGLE TRACK when I purchase vinyl as a DJ. $10 for unlimited streaming is just insane value and only someone that doesn't value music or isn't really that bothered about it would think otherwise - thats where the conclusion comes from.
 
Did anyone try to move forward/backward an Apple Music song using that super skinny indicator? You need you have a finger the size of a needle and eyes with laser precision to be able to move it. Thank you Tim Kardashian and Sir Jony for another beautiful designed skinny/transparent cursor !

How this tired rant relates to students discount? Stop polluting every topic with negativity just because.
 
If you can purchase nearly all the music want for under $10 a month, you're not a big music fan. It used to cost me $20 PER RECORD for ONE SINGLE TRACK when I purchase vinyl as a DJ. $10 for unlimited streaming is just insane value and only someone that doesn't value music or isn't really that bothered about it would think otherwise - thats where the conclusion comes from.
So if you don't subscribe to a streaming service or spend loads of money every month buying music you can't be a big music fan? That's ridiculous. :rolleyes:
 
I gave AM an enthusiastic try just after its launch and my biggest issue with it was inability to add my own MP3 files once the iCloud Music Library was activated. Perhaps after a rumoured big AM revamp this summer Apple could offer another shorter re-try? I would not mind paying around $3 to try it out again just for a short-while, but will be sticking with Spotify for now.
 
So if you don't subscribe to a streaming service or spend loads of money every month buying music you can't be a big music fan? That's ridiculous. :rolleyes:
How? Unless you manage to do it without purchasing music then the amount you spend on music directly represent the importance music plays in your life.
 
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How? Unless you manage to do it without purchasing music then the amount you spend on music directly represent the importance music plays in your life.
But you don't have to be constantly spending money subscribing to streaming services or buying new CDs and downloads to be a music fan. You can play the music you already own, listen to radio stations, go to gigs, go to clubs or watch music on TV.

Some months I can spend a lot on music, other months nothing at all but I still class myself as a big music fan and I can definitely say that music is one of the most important things in my life.
 
But you don't have to be constantly spending money subscribing to streaming services or buying new CDs and downloads to be a music fan. You can play the music you already own, listen to radio stations, go to gigs, go to clubs or watch music on TV.

Some months I can spend a lot on music, other months nothing at all but I still class myself as a big music fan and I can definitely say that music is one of the most important things in my life.

So it seems spending money is inevitable part of being a music fan.
 
Yes, but you don't have to spend a set figure every month.
I have not purchased music for years, I listen to the free Pandora for years and last year when Apple Music started up, I started that trial, which turned into a monthly subscription.

At this point given my usage habits, its far easier to spend the 10 dollars a month and stream the music. I still use the free Pandora service as well.

Perhaps I'm not a typical customer (or maybe I am), but I figure why buy music now
 
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I have not purchased music for years, I listen to the free Pandora for years and last year when Apple Music started up, I started that trial, which turned into a monthly subscription.

At this point given my usage habits, its far easier to spend the 10 dollars a month and stream the music. I still use the free Pandora service as well.

Perhaps I'm not a typical customer (or maybe I am), but I figure why buy music now
You don't have to be a "typical customer", there are loads of options available now to suit everyone. :)
 
If you can purchase nearly all the music want for under $10 a month, you're not a big music fan.
My parents do not own a smart phone, but my father loves music. He listens to his vinyl records often. He has no interests in listing to anything new. If he does not subscribe to AM, does that mean he is not a big music fan?

I have over 3000 songs, plus I listen to free streaming music. If I don't subscribe to a $10 a month streaming service, I am not a big music fan?

BTW, when did music fan become big music fan? If you subscribe to pandora, AM, and spotify, does that mean you and an ultra big giant music fan?

I am not saying I agree with this, but wouldn't buying all your music instead of renting your music mean that you are more of a super duper music fan.

Ridiculous.

So if you don't subscribe to a streaming service or spend loads of money every month buying music you can't be a big music fan? That's ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Agreed, this is some silly stuff.
 
Oh snap. It is on.

I have to hand it to the Apple Music team. Rough start, but excellent follow through. I'd be very happy if this were the model of New Apple.
 
If he does not subscribe to AM, does that mean he is not a big music fan?

Thats not what I said - I said if you don't think unlimited music for a measly $10 a month isn't great value for money compared to what we used to have to spend, you can't value music very highly.

That is fact anyone in the music industry would agree with, despite what you two money tight misers say.
 
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Buy your music once and listen to it whenever, wherever, share it with whomever you want.

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Keep buying it forever, and only get to listen to it when you can find a strong enough cellular signal, and never share it with anyone.
 
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To me, this seems like a smart move for Apple. I thought the AM sub price of $10 a month forever was high for the average user when there are so many difference cheaper and free options.

For many of us, it would be cheaper to own the music we want than to spend money to rent it.

Also, with all the launch problems with Apple Music, sometimes affecting people that did not even sign up for it, having a cheaper option for students might attract some people that were scared away to even try it.
Yeah. One-off 19.99 per album would still be nice anyway. And renting is risky. Who knows when publisher pulls the plug and leave users stranded.

And Apple Music collection is still highly limited for eastern style of music, including Japanese music.
 
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How? Unless you manage to do it without purchasing music then the amount you spend on music directly represent the importance music plays in your life.

Bingo John. These "music fans" who don't value $10 a month (ha, if only it was $10 in the UK, we're paying $15 over here and its still cheap!) obviously don't think music is worth much.

They probably prefer young and torrents anyway. Mainly the only people I know that don't think streaming services are good value are the ones that have been torrenting their music for free for the last decade and now can't understand why you should pay for it.
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Buy your music once and listen to it whenever, wherever, share it with whomever you want.

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Keep buying it forever, and only get to listen to it when you can find a strong enough cellular signal, and never share it with anyone.

"share it with whomever you want"... Not really. You can't broadcast it without a license, nor play it in a public place without a license. You could lend it to someone (and then you can't listen to it anymore) but that doesn't exactly sound like a great version of sharing compared to today.
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I gave AM an enthusiastic try just after its launch and my biggest issue with it was inability to add my own MP3 files once the iCloud Music Library was activated. Perhaps after a rumoured big AM revamp this summer Apple could offer another shorter re-try? I would not mind paying around $3 to try it out again just for a short-while, but will be sticking with Spotify for now.

Thats the iTunes match service.
 
Bingo John. These "music fans" who don't value $10 a month (ha, if only it was $10 in the UK, we're paying $15 over here and its still cheap!) obviously don't think music is worth much.

They probably prefer young and torrents anyway. Mainly the only people I know that don't think streaming services are good value are the ones that have been torrenting their music for free for the last decade and now can't understand why you should pay for it.
If you are referring to me I started building my music collection in 1973 and I'm constantly adding to it but only when I think it's worthwhile. I think Apple Music (and all the other streaming services) are worth the money if you want to rent your music but I'd rather just buy the albums I want.
 
Unless you manage to do it without purchasing music then the amount you spend on music directly represent the importance music plays in your life.
So, if you initially pay more from buying the song, instead of renting, are you saying you value the music more?


my father loves music. He listens to his vinyl records often. He has no interests in listing to anything new. If he does not subscribe to AM, does that mean he is not a big music fan?

Thats not what I said - I said if you don't think unlimited music for a measly $10 a month isn't great value for money compared to what we used to have to spend, you can't value music very highly.

I never asked him, but I am pretty sure that my father would not think that AM is a great value to him. But, judging from his music collection, I think most people would say he loves his music, and is a huge fan.

Music is now available in many different ways, but to say someone is not a fan because they choose not to use your chosen way is silly. AM is a great value to you, maybe not to me. That doesn't mean I do not love music.
 
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I'm not sure how long they've had student discount for but this might persuade quite a lot of people to move to Apple Music.

It seems a lot of people are still with Spotify simply because of the student discount. Now that both have it, it'll be interesting to see how many people jump ship.
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Can you read?

"U.S. students won't be the only ones to benefit though, as the plan is also open to students in the U.K., Germany, Denmark, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. The actual cost is expected to vary slightly from country to country, but all markets will see 50 percent off the standard subscription rate."
Which does not include his home country? I guess.
 
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