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I actually think it's disgraceful rather than funny. This is off topic but I think the amount of battery powered devices available now is terrible. Especially when taking into consideration that these battery driven devices are sat next to a machine that provides a perfect power source.

How much world pollution has been caused in the last few years by the influx of wireless products? Whatever Apple do or any other company do with their 'arsenic free' glass or whatever surely can't offset the amount of damage caused by not offering a wired option to their devices.

Yes lots of people use rechargables but at the end of their life most of these will be in landfill polluting soil. And there's plenty of people who don't use rechargable.

Anyway for all their stances of Apple leaving the chamber of commerce over green issues –*I think a simple thing like only producing wired periphials would be much more beneficial to us all. And anyone who argues that – my desk is cleaner or they like it wireless... well we all have to make sacrifces and having a tiny peice of wire on your desk is hardly a major sacrife is it?

In addition to all of the above. Even if people are using 'safe' batteries – these still have to be manufactured, packaged, shipped and charged with a recharger... and this recharger needs to be manufactured, packaged and shipped.

Missing the big picture and I would argue not entirely aware of what goes into producing and distributing electricity, unless of course you are totally off grid. Tell us, what have you done to improve the world today? No, really.
 
I find I'm always accidentally hitting hot corners. Haven't used hot corners for any extended period of time since about 1999 or 2000 (on a Windows PC). When I've tried the again since, I usually hit them after bringing a video full-screen (especially since Flash players choose to forget to hide the mouse cursor about one in four times, so I need to move it off to the side so it isn't distracting). On the same note, I find the mouse-to-the-side "warp" Spaces / virtual desktops too temperamental to be useful.

Not to say it won't work for you. If you don't actually USE or NEED the third and fourth buttons then obviously it's no big deal that they have gone missing.

For me, though, I had a hard time going from five buttons to four (ended up giving up the desktop expose trigger in favor of keeping app expose for the fourth button) when my ancient MS mouse went south. There's no way I'm going down to two buttons again. It's just stupid.

Note, as suggested elsewhere, if the two-finger swipe actions could be commandeered to act like buttons three and four, I'd be happy. But, until Apple does that via SWUpdate, I'm not spending $70 for an attractive but useless-to-me desktop adornment.


I totally agree. I need my 3rd and 4th buttons.

A deal breaker.
 
With the Magic Mouse will I still be able to bring up Dashboard by clicking down on the mouse like I can with the Mighty Mouse?

Anyone??

and I wonder what the mouse system preferences will change to??

I have my middle click to be my 3rd button, and my "squeeze" feature to pull up expose.

you're telling me they're going to take that away?? They're just going to let you change primary and secondary buttons?!?!!
so stupid!!
 

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Missing the big picture and I would argue not entirely aware of what goes into producing and distributing electricity, unless of course you are totally off grid. Tell us, what have you done to improve the world today? No, really.

Are you really going to raise the point that powering a device through a computer is more harmful than powering through a battery? Wow. I am completely aware of the costs associated with energy production. I am aslo completely aware of the costs of battery production –*something which you want to conveniantly ignore.

And i'm not going to respond to what I take as a personal attack on what was a question which I raised upon the current electric product market.
 
Has anyone actually found one of these for sale in the Apple store? I have called the big 3 in the Chicagoland area and they don't have them for sale separately, only with the iMac.
 
I currently use my Mighty Mouse in two button mode and I very rarely fail to get a right click when I want one.

I do have a problem with the Mighty Mouse's right click. I think it's pretty arrogant to require people to lift their left finger, considering a second switch could provide a very reliable solution. I have to admit that as a developer I right click a whole lot more than the average user.

The touch scroll is a neat idea, though. Most wheel implementations are very frustrating, with too much mechanical resistance and noise. They don't allow very precise positioning and very fast scrolling at the same time. I can imagine myself scrolling with a touch sensor. Not sure if I could get used to the MM's right click.
 
Tried one today. I really liked it. Easy to use. Loved the scrolling and 2 finger swipe to go back and forth between web pages and in iPhoto. The zoom feature was really cool:cool:. Can't do 3 or 4 finger. Forgot to look at any programming options, my bad. Oh well, it will arrive with my iMac i7. My area stores will not have them for sale for at least another week or more. Said I should order online if I wanted one.
 
Tried one today. I really liked it. Easy to use. Loved the scrolling and 2 finger swipe to go back and forth between web pages and in iPhoto. The zoom feature was really cool:cool:. Can't do 3 or 4 finger. Forgot to look at any programming options, my bad. Oh well, it will arrive with my iMac i7. My area stores will not have them for sale for at least another week or more. Said I should order online if I wanted one.

I just like it because it is different. And from what all you guys are saying, they work. I really want to go to an apple store and just try one for myself. uGH. The nearest Apple Store is 30 mins away in St. George, Utah. Next time i go there I am trying one for sure!
 
The touch scroll is a neat idea, though. Most wheel implementations are very frustrating, with too much mechanical resistance and noise. They don't allow very precise positioning and very fast scrolling at the same time. I can imagine myself scrolling with a touch sensor.
This right here. Despite whatever shortcomings the Magic Mouse has (and to be sure it does have some), I see this as the killer feature. The main reason I can't stand the Mighty Mouse is the nipple. The MX Rev has the best wheel I've used and the Mamba has a nice solid feel but I just find the idea of touch scrolling so appealing.

I wonder, does the momentum scrolling work like on the iPhone, where you can halt the momentum by touching it again, or by leaving your finger on the mouse?
 
Went to the Apple Store today to look in person, saw the Magic Mouse and played with it for 20 minutes. It's going to be a major fail. This is not a comfortable mouse and is not easy to use at all. In store sales person could not get the backward and forward swipe working and the mouse is plain uncomfortable.

27" iMac gave off more heat than a space heater. Screen was very warm to touch and the entire back of the unit was HOT. I could feel the heat coming off the glass against me.


I canceled my 27" iMac order and am getting the upgraded Mac Mini and using my 24" Dell Ultrasharp monitor.
 
I actually think it's disgraceful rather than funny. This is off topic but I think the amount of battery powered devices available now is terrible. Especially when taking into consideration that these battery driven devices are sat next to a machine that provides a perfect power source.

How much world pollution has been caused in the last few years by the influx of wireless products? Whatever Apple do or any other company do with their 'arsenic free' glass or whatever surely can't offset the amount of damage caused by not offering a wired option to their devices.

Yes lots of people use rechargables but at the end of their life most of these will be in landfill polluting soil. And there's plenty of people who don't use rechargable.

Anyway for all their stances of Apple leaving the chamber of commerce over green issues –*I think a simple thing like only producing wired periphials would be much more beneficial to us all. And anyone who argues that – my desk is cleaner or they like it wireless... well we all have to make sacrifces and having a tiny peice of wire on your desk is hardly a major sacrife is it?

In addition to all of the above. Even if people are using 'safe' batteries – these still have to be manufactured, packaged, shipped and charged with a recharger... and this recharger needs to be manufactured, packaged and shipped.

Why don't you lead by example and sacrifice using computers. Oh no! How much electricity are you wasting right now reading this post?

EDIT: Detlev beat me to it.
 
Can you use Expose - all windows with it? its very important for me because i use it every few minutes!

Thanks.
 
Anyone??

and I wonder what the mouse system preferences will change to??

I have my middle click to be my 3rd button, and my "squeeze" feature to pull up expose.

you're telling me they're going to take that away?? They're just going to let you change primary and secondary buttons?!?!!
so stupid!!

I went to the apple store the is a very simple almost no option interface for the Magic mouse, i forgot to check if its possible to use expose and all that.. ):
Plus i noticed the if you have both clicking fingers on the mouse shell and want to right click with both fingers touching you will not be able to, clicking a right click will only work if non of your other fingers are touching the surface =/ so every time you will have to left up your primary clicking finger!!!!
 
Will we be able to activate Expose, Desktop Expose and Spaces from the Mouse with preconfigured or configurable gestures?

Kind Regards

I didn't have a good look at the Mouse Preferences, but I don't think so (except of course by clicking on the appropriate Dock icon).

I played with a new 27" 3.06GHz iMac this afternoon for a while, and the new Magic Mouse. I've never had any problems with the Mighty Mouse (other than the wireless one weighing a ton), but the new Magic Mouse feels a lot better to use and is less weighty, although the two-finger gestures would take a bit of time to get used to using.

It does have real clicking buttons underneath. The touch pad is only for the gestures.

For some peculiar reason the new 27" iMac itself actually benchmarked with XBench slower than the exiting 24" 3.06GHz iMac in some places.
 
So no button 3/middle mouse button on the magic mouse? Damn, sorta need that for Maya...
 
It's going to be a major fail.

sigh

I played with one for some time yesterday in my local Apple store and I'd hardly say it was a "fail". :rolleyes:

All the controls worked perfectly for me and it looks and feels amazing.

It won't suit everybody but personally I think it's d@mn fine!
 
Once again Mac fan boys don't answer my f*cking question regarding battery life.

F*cking typical.

There was some discussion in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8690898/

I can't see it being worse than the MightyMouse. It could actually be better, considering it's a more current design.

Nice attitude, btw. I'm surprised anyone answered. Guess I'm in a good mood or something...:rolleyes:
 
There was some discussion in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8690898/

I can't see it being worse than the MightyMouse. It could actually be better, considering it's a more current design.

Nice attitude, btw. I'm surprised anyone answered. Guess I'm in a good mood or something...:rolleyes:

I want some bloody specifics - how many hours? how long can I use it before I have to recharge the batteries? I asked nicely once, asked again, and ignored - yet people talk utter crap about things UNRELATED TO THE F*CKING THREAD!

If you want to talk about the pizza you ate on the weekend or what your stupid kids did during the week - piss off to the part of the forum where you can talk about those sorts of things.
 
Once again Mac fan boys don't answer my f*cking question regarding battery life.

F*cking typical.

I want some bloody specifics - how many hours? how long can I use it before I have to recharge the batteries? I asked nicely once, asked again, and ignored - yet people talk utter crap about things UNRELATED TO THE F*CKING THREAD!

If you want to talk about the pizza you ate on the weekend or what your stupid kids did during the week - piss off to the part of the forum where you can talk about those sorts of things.

Wow. Ok. I'll try this again:

If you read the post I linked to, I said about one month on a single battery, which would mean > two months on a pair. That's for a MightyMouse, obviously. Apple says 4 months on a pair of alkaline. The batteries I'm using are hybrids, but they usually don't last as long [per charge] as an alkaline. Therefore, > two months on rechargeable cells is right in the range Apple foresees for battery life.

If you need that in hours, then you can expect something over 1440.

I don't know how much idle/sleep time Apple includes, but in my case I would say there's 8-10 hours of zero use per day, and I never turn the mouse off. During the rest of the time, the mouse sleeps whenever it can to conserve power.

ALL that said, no one has actually RUN a Magic Mouse for more than day or two - no one knows what the actuals will be.

I don't think you will get any more specific answers, at this point in time.

edit: Looks like you got your question answered by a post of the Apple spec. However, that wasn't the question you asked - I tried to give you some actual data and [mistakenly] thought you had read the tech specs from apple.com. Anyway, glad you finally got an answer.
 
I can't believe there are people that doesn't use shortcuts (3rd or 4th buttons) on mouse nowadays... that's so.... ancient. Floppy-era ancient.

Go search for the expose and space button on the keyboard everytime to switch different window?
 
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