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Apple Introduces Mighty Mouse
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You roll your eyes, but nobody in this thread has yet to take up my offer and provide information about why this touch sensitive stuff is superior to traditional multi-button mice. I'm not just being sarcastic either, if there are benefits to using this method rather than simply having a second button I would honestly like to know and I am open to changing my opinion. Right now I don't see the benefit and think that it simply complicates the design and causes some drawbacks.oskar said:That's clearly one of the reasons they did it. May seem a little off-topic but the design of this one-button/multi-button-functionality mouse makes you wonder how they'll pull off video on an iPod.
OK, I went to my local Apple Store and put my Logitech VX1000 away.
Pros:
The little track ball works nicely and you can scroll horizontally
It matches my keyboard
You can launch expose and dashboard from the mouse
Cons
It's a pretty flat mouse and doesn't support the hand like the logitech; my hand is already tired
You can't program the side buttons to do a "forward page" or "back page."
The side buttons are a little hard to access without "shifting" your hand; sometimes you "miss-click" and hit one of the top buttons instead.
All in all, I'm pretty disappointed. I think I'll hook it up to my wife's iMac
I would imagine that they'll start shipping this as the default mouse with systems, with a bluetooth option to come very shortly.
It just doesn't fit my hand well.
Pros:
The little track ball works nicely and you can scroll horizontally
It matches my keyboard
You can launch expose and dashboard from the mouse
Cons
It's a pretty flat mouse and doesn't support the hand like the logitech; my hand is already tired
You can't program the side buttons to do a "forward page" or "back page."
The side buttons are a little hard to access without "shifting" your hand; sometimes you "miss-click" and hit one of the top buttons instead.
All in all, I'm pretty disappointed. I think I'll hook it up to my wife's iMac
I would imagine that they'll start shipping this as the default mouse with systems, with a bluetooth option to come very shortly.
It just doesn't fit my hand well.
MontyZ said:
Nope. Why would I want to, when my iMac is in this room? I am always at my computer desk and my mouse is never more than a foot away from my keyboard and Mac. What benefit would I gain from going cordless? Losing one wire on my desktop? Big deal. I have no reason to use my mouse from far away. But I totally understand why some people, i.e. laptop users, need a cordless mouse - much more convenient. It's just that I'm not one of those people.
Bern said:I wonder how many of the BT nay-sayers here will complain when the BT version of this mouse is released
By ""BT nay-sayers", do you mean people who don't want the BT version or are happy with this corded version? If so, I doubt any of them will complain when the BT version is released, since, well, they won't care about it...
iMeowbot said:
Don't you mean "Bern-ing"?
I'm excited about this mouse, but I am disappointed the design hasn't changed, since the Pro Mouse. It is so big that it hurts my wrist terribly bad. Hopefully, my first will get used to it.
mac_zealot88 said:What speaker thing?
Check out this article on the Mighty Mouse --- Mighty Mouse: First Impressions over at Macteens http://macteens.com/more.php?id=1081_0_1_0
powerbook911 said:
Well, they did change the design a lot actually (360-degree Scroll Ball, squeeze-sensitive triggers, touch-sensitive buttons) but yes, in terms of size perhaps not...
~Shard~ said:Nope. Why would I want to, when my iMac is in this room? I am always at my computer desk and my mouse is never more than a foot away from my keyboard and Mac. What benefit would I gain from going cordless? Losing one wire on my desktop? Big deal. I have no reason to use my mouse from far away. But I totally understand why some people, i.e. laptop users, need a cordless mouse - much more convenient. It's just that I'm not one of those people.
I find the current Pro mouse has just enough space under the front to allow the cord to slip under, preventing clicking.
tikibangout said:
Nope. A good rule of thumb: almost nothing copyrighted after 1923 has expired yet.
The name is a bit cheesy isn't it?
It doesn't fit with their current naming conventions really... sounding a bit childish.
It looks like a weird third nipple. The white plastic looks toy-like.
I think that it depresses exactly like the one button mouse where the whole housing clicks down, but since it contains touch sensors on either side of the nipple, it can detect which the side upon which pressure is being exerted, it functions like a 2 button mouse.
Is that grey nipple large enough for a finger to scroll around comfortably?
It looks like a "scroll x 50" to get to the bottom of a long webpage.
Talk about repetitive strain hehe.
It doesn't fit with their current naming conventions really... sounding a bit childish.
It looks like a weird third nipple. The white plastic looks toy-like.
I think that it depresses exactly like the one button mouse where the whole housing clicks down, but since it contains touch sensors on either side of the nipple, it can detect which the side upon which pressure is being exerted, it functions like a 2 button mouse.
Is that grey nipple large enough for a finger to scroll around comfortably?
It looks like a "scroll x 50" to get to the bottom of a long webpage.
Talk about repetitive strain hehe.
nubero said:
I tried one out at the Apple Store (they were all out). Here are my impressions.
Understand that I like my Apple Pro mouse (as they used to call it: the mouse that came with my PowerMac G5) a lot, but would rather have a scroll mouse with the heft and solidity of a Pro mouse (as well as the aesthetics). I'm judging this against the Pro mouse, not so much against other mice (for instance, I use a little Macally scroll mouse with my iBook, and I'm not comparing it to that).
1. It doesn't have the weight or solidity of the Apple Pro mouse. It feels more like my old Logitech scroll mouse. I don't want to say flimsy, but a bit less substantial.
2. There is a downward motion that takes place when you click - it's not just touch sensitive in the sense that e.g. the scroll wheel and buttons on the 3G iPod are touch sensitive. Like the Pro mouse, the whole upper case of the mouse is a "button" that clicks down, but it feels a bit less substantial - like the plastic is thinner, or like the Pro mouse is weighted and the Mighty Mouse isn't. There's tactile sensation, but it's not quite as firm feeling as the Pro mouse.
3. The scroll ball is a tiny trackball. I found that it was easier to use up and down than left and right, and using it diagonally wasn't really practical. It also felt a bit unsubstantial; it didn't have the weight of a comparably sized ball-bearing, but more like a kind of aluminum bead. It wasn't quite as smooth as I wanted.
4. The only times I had right-clicking issues were when I was trying to get context menus on iTunes tracks - for some reason, I had to left-click on the tracks first, then right-click to get the context menu (then point to Get Info to get the Get Info window).
5. The tactile feedback for the squeeze was a bit insubstantial, too. It works as advertized, though: one squeeze and up comes dashboard.
6. I had real problems with using the scroll ball as a middle button. It seemed as though every time I used it, it behaved as a left or right button. That may have been the preference settings on the Mac I used, though.
I tried it with a few programs (iTunes, Keynote, Safari). Didn't try it with any really context-menu sensitive programs. I was mainly interested in the horizontal/vertical capabilities of the scroll ball; once I'd used the right-click a few times I felt I had a sense of that.
I would have preferred something with the solidity of the Pro mouse, and with a slightly larger (the size of a baby pea), more ball-bearing like track ball. Not sure if I'm going to buy it after all (and believe me, I was ready to buy).
oooo, be still my heart. Let's see. How many years has a multi-button mouse been available (and shipped WITH at no extra charge) for the PC? How long has Logitech been making multibutton mouses and trackballs for the Mac? Too little too late.
Now that every hard-core Mac user has jettisoned their one-button mouse for something usable years ago, now we're supposed to drop another $50 on Apple's Johnnie-come-lately? I don't think so. I haven't seen anything in Tiger that makes me want to buy it if I don't have to, and I can't see anything about Apple's latest edition that makes me want to buy it.
It reminds me of the argument PC users give for using Windows instead of OS X: "Oh, but the PC has so much more software!" Realistically, just how much software can one person use on a day-to-day basis?? And realistically, how much time do I have to learn how to use a multi-, multi-featured mouse, and will I even remember to use half the stuff offered?
Eh.
I love my Logitech thumb-operated trackball that I purchased for the same price. Yes it has a tail, but that just keeps me from losing it on my desk or accidentally throwing it away. It even comes with a vertical scroll wheel, and I don't even remember to use that 90% of the time, and I'm a web designer! You'd think I'd be using the scroll wheel all the time. Nope. I'm just a power user of the scroll bar. Just give me my trackball and left and right-click buttons, and I'm a happy camper.
Now that every hard-core Mac user has jettisoned their one-button mouse for something usable years ago, now we're supposed to drop another $50 on Apple's Johnnie-come-lately? I don't think so. I haven't seen anything in Tiger that makes me want to buy it if I don't have to, and I can't see anything about Apple's latest edition that makes me want to buy it.
It reminds me of the argument PC users give for using Windows instead of OS X: "Oh, but the PC has so much more software!" Realistically, just how much software can one person use on a day-to-day basis?? And realistically, how much time do I have to learn how to use a multi-, multi-featured mouse, and will I even remember to use half the stuff offered?
Eh.
I love my Logitech thumb-operated trackball that I purchased for the same price. Yes it has a tail, but that just keeps me from losing it on my desk or accidentally throwing it away. It even comes with a vertical scroll wheel, and I don't even remember to use that 90% of the time, and I'm a web designer! You'd think I'd be using the scroll wheel all the time. Nope. I'm just a power user of the scroll bar. Just give me my trackball and left and right-click buttons, and I'm a happy camper.
Has anyone's order shipped yet? Mine says estimated ship today, but it hasn't actually shipped, from what I call tell on the order status. I need mighty mouse!
Clicking Confusion
To clear up ANY ongoing confusion with Apple's new Mighty Mouse, it ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CLICKS DOWN like ALL PREVIOUS mice.
The Mouse Is The Button
On Mighty Mouse, the entire top shell is the actual button. AS WITH previous versions of the Apple mouse, simply press on the upper surface to click the BODY PIVOTS UP AND DOWN to actuate the clever click mechanism.
It just uses the pressure sensitive left and right areas to determine wether you intended a right click or left click. If you press with both fingers and their pressure is close enough the same then it will default left click.
The added audible sounds are for improving the feedback of CLICKING, since mice that last longer are usually give less feedback both audible and tactile.
To clear up ANY ongoing confusion with Apple's new Mighty Mouse, it ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CLICKS DOWN like ALL PREVIOUS mice.
The Mouse Is The Button
On Mighty Mouse, the entire top shell is the actual button. AS WITH previous versions of the Apple mouse, simply press on the upper surface to click the BODY PIVOTS UP AND DOWN to actuate the clever click mechanism.
It just uses the pressure sensitive left and right areas to determine wether you intended a right click or left click. If you press with both fingers and their pressure is close enough the same then it will default left click.
The added audible sounds are for improving the feedback of CLICKING, since mice that last longer are usually give less feedback both audible and tactile.
I can't imagine this difference would be very significant. Besides, wouldn't you have to exert most of the force at the finger tip when using the center mouse button and those little side-squeezers? If you are going to have additional tactile buttons, why not have all of them be tacticle buttons?iMeowbot said:
stomachdoc said:
For me it is the opposite, all the "ergonomically" shape mice cause my hand to cramp. I prefer a flatter mouse.
The trick to the side buttons seems to be squeezing the mid side or lower side rather than near the top of the side buttons, plus I seem to be really only pressing the side button with my thumb (right handed), my other fingers are barely over the other side button. Maybe this is why they decided to have the side buttons act as one, this gives you more latitude as to how you position your hand and opens the same mouse up to lefties (my niece is a lefty).