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Apple Introduces Mighty Mouse
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neut said:
What...? and not get to one-thousand posts?
I'm thinking there's too much criticism on behalf of those who haven't even tried the mouse out yet. Maybe we should only believe those who have.
The buzz it's making on MacRumors is not that surprising as many have already written every one hundred or so posts pointing out the incredible number of posts, me being one of them. If you think that's a lot, check out how many views the threads's had.
So what to expect in the next mac event?
Jobs appears on stage disguised as a giant mouse with a cape announcing the Mighty PowerBook...
CaptainScarlet said:LMAO!!
Ok how about this one...Mighty Mouse VS. a dell mouse...
That dell mouse is even bigger...
I own two of those Dell mice. I'm using it right now. I love that mouse. It simply fits my hand nicely. I'm going to replace it, with the Mighty Mouse, but I'm hoping the hand cramps aren't too bad. I've used the bluetooth mouth, and it hurt me very badly. Since this Mighty Mouse has the features I need, I'm going to try to pain through it.
powerbook911 said:
You know you're setting yourself up for disaster, right? You definitely should try one down at an Apple store before purchasing. Unless, you've got the money.
As for me, I'm still using an XLR8 mouse, the one I've been using for over half a decade. It's got two buttons and a scroll wheel, it's got a cord, and it's beige (note that I have an Apple wireless keyboard and G5 with an original 20" monitor, so it doesn't match anything except the mouse pad
). Yes, people still use mouse pads. I was hoping for my mouse in Apple, wireless form, and the Mighty Mouse didn't deliver (and I think that the name wreaks Disney). When they have a BlueTooth version, then they've got my attention. I'll probably play with one at an Apple store when I get my iPod replaced, and see if I like it enough to even pay attention when a BlueTooth version rolls around.
-Chase
they should make a "Power" series. make it aluminum so it will match my powerbook call it Power Mouse/Keyboard, the white one should call it iMouse/iKeyboard to match their "i" seires
Jimmery said:
I interpret that to mean it will be seen as a four-button mouse with vertical scrolling in pretty much all modern versions of Windows (where the default driver supports scrollwheel mice). Horizontal/diagonal scrolling is questionable, as I believe the default Windows XP driver doesn't handle horizontal scrolling (you need to install a third-party driver to do that, like MS's InteliMouse driver).
Anything less would pretty much astound me. Note, however, that you may or may not be able to assign different functions to the different buttons. I forget how well Windows handles buttons 3+ in that regard. I kinda think you also need an OEM driver for that kind of stuff as well, and Apple apparently isn't supplying one, so ... But, that may be different between Win2k and XP too.
I really like the fact that I can use my MouseMan Traveler when I'm sitting on the couch, like I am now, and it works great.
I wonder if this Mighty Mouse will be too big or just designed differently enough to where I'd need to be on a flat hard surface to use it without it being really...awkward.
I wonder if this Mighty Mouse will be too big or just designed differently enough to where I'd need to be on a flat hard surface to use it without it being really...awkward.
JesterJJZ said:
Don't they still come with a click-pressure adjustment control on the bottom?
That was always my favorite feature of the Apple Pro Mouse, before I shook my head at what a shame it was that it was just a one-button mouse and dropping it in my Mouse Drawer. Never saw another mouse where you could alter how much force it took to click.
Aluminum keys and mouse surfaces would be impractical because it would end up getting all pitted and ugly. http://e-scribe.com/misc/aluminum/CiBoys said:
Aluminum-painted plastic could work (as in the case of PB keyboards) but so much of it might look cheap. I think it'd get "shiny" from finger oils more quickly and more obviously than white or graphite keys.
duke49er said:
And, just like the PCs, the Mac System Prefs should be locked on all the Macs, which keeps the "single user" from ever changing how the Mouse works. So, again, the lab decides if it's going to offer 1-button or 2-button mice, and if it's offering 2-button mice it should be equipped to handle both the initial education (click on the right side of the mouse to right-click) and the newbie questions (you want to click on the left side, or on the whole mouse, unless I specifically say to right-click).
Or, *shock*, if the lab has a problem with the two choices above, they buy their mice from a different vendor. Gee, funny how USB devices work that way ...
wonder when the bluetooth version gets released. You know they already have one but are gonna milk the wired version first from those who cant wait to buy.
The Apple Mouse doesn't have a click-pressure adjustment. The old Apple Pro Mouse has that as a wheel around the sensor, and the new Wireless Mouse has that as a lever near the sensor. The Apple Mouse has nothing.jettredmont said:
My thoughts about all of this...
Having read a considerable amount about this new Apple product (though certainly not all 991 posts, so no comments from the Peanut Gallery ["that's been covered!" in post #457])... I've decided to have my own say. I have not seen one in person so this all just speculative...
Shape
I have never liked the pill shape. It's is uncomfortable for extended periods of time, when compared to an ergonomic mouse, that is. I guess it's all in what you get used to. I like a mouse that fits my hand. This pill shape doesn't. The only thing it accomplishes is that is perfectly symmetrical so that it is uncomfortable for both right and left handed users equally. The solution to Lefties is to simply make a Left Handed mouse. 10% is a lot of people to make happy. Why doesn't Apple lead the charge in offering both?
Wired with no Blue Tooth in Sight
You'd think that Apple would really want to do this whole thing up right. They've been anti-multi buttons for ages now and to to ignore Blue Tooth completely is a bit befuddling. Why did they do this? Money, of course: to sell the mouse to the early adopting "I-gotta-get-myself-an-Apple-multi-mouse" types and then to sell them another mouse in 6 months when they release the BT model. Hopefully, the early adopters will pave the financial road so the BT model comes in at the same $49 and the current wired model gets bumped to $29 for those with existing systems and free for those buying a new computer.
Short Cord
From what I understand, the cord is about 27". Why? I just can't get why Apple's mice are plagued with this situation. Just give us another 3 feet, people! I went to my closet to see some of the wired stuff I had tucked away a couple of years ago when I went cordless. Logitech gives a full 6 feet! Plenty! Some people want to keep their computer somewhere else besides right on top of themselves. Does the wire really costs that much? I know that Apple would prefer the user to attach the mouse to the USB on the keyboard or to the front of the computer when available such as the new G5s, but how about what we want?! I actually think that the best solution would be a cord that was completely retractable. It would wind inside the mouse in some engineering feet of Apple magic [terrific for travel]. And then, you could pull out the appropriate amount of cord you need, up to 5 or 6 feet and lock it in with perhaps a foot or more still inside for those who need less. Simple.
Side Buttons
I dunno about the buttons on either side. I LOVE my back/forth buttons on the Left side of my Logitech MX900. Having the thumb do all of the page dancing makes so much more sense than a thumb and a ring finger. And this only works if Apple allows CLICKING for those buttons. I just checked their site and it might just only be there to open Apps [Dashboard, etc.]
Only 4 Buttons
I guess it's a start, but I think 4 Buttons are a little on the limited side. I like my Logitech's 8 programmable buttons & scroll wheel. Perhaps those who have been sitting on the sideline with only a single-click mouse are rejoicing, but everyone else who have been using PC USB mice all along just can't too excited about a few extra buttons.
Design
I love Apple, but they sometimes get too hung up on how their stuff looks instead of how it will ultimately help the user to work. Generally their stuff looks better than everything else AND is easier to use. But in the case of their mouse, it just isn't. In my opinion, the decision to go with the same exact shape and look of their old mice is because they want to be able to say "we're still right... Our shape is the way to go and because we have sensors instead of clickable buttons, we're really not waffle-ing on the issue of One Button vs Multi-Button." I can really imagine Steve being very adamant about this is in meetings devoted to the device... He hates having to backtrack and say he was wrong. I forsee he'll have some major spin later this year when he releases a Video iPod, considering how he's been so anti-video so far whenever this thing has come up. I know that he's eating serious crow right now with the whole Intel Chip thing. Fortunately, I believe he's willing to eat crow rather than keep going on a path that won't deliver. He's stubborn, but only to a point. The mouse is a compromise. That's all. "It's the best of both worlds! It's a single button mouse for those use to it and it's a multi-button mouse for others!!"
Track Ball
I can't wait to get down to Knox Street Dallas to check this ***** out. It sounds like it might be cool, but we'll have to wait and see.
Fake Click Sounds
According to some (arstechnica.com), this is cool. Again, I'm gonna have to wait to make my own mind up on it. Of course, the fake click sound in the iPod is quite nice and adds to the experience. I could turn it off, but leave it on most of the time because it seems right. I can only assume that this adds to the mouse in the same way.
I hope Apple sells a billion of these, but my money's safe on this addition. It will have to get a whole lot more sophisticated for me to open the ol' wallet.
In my Opinion this is simply a case of too little, too late.
Having read a considerable amount about this new Apple product (though certainly not all 991 posts, so no comments from the Peanut Gallery ["that's been covered!" in post #457])... I've decided to have my own say. I have not seen one in person so this all just speculative...
Shape
I have never liked the pill shape. It's is uncomfortable for extended periods of time, when compared to an ergonomic mouse, that is. I guess it's all in what you get used to. I like a mouse that fits my hand. This pill shape doesn't. The only thing it accomplishes is that is perfectly symmetrical so that it is uncomfortable for both right and left handed users equally. The solution to Lefties is to simply make a Left Handed mouse. 10% is a lot of people to make happy. Why doesn't Apple lead the charge in offering both?
Wired with no Blue Tooth in Sight
You'd think that Apple would really want to do this whole thing up right. They've been anti-multi buttons for ages now and to to ignore Blue Tooth completely is a bit befuddling. Why did they do this? Money, of course: to sell the mouse to the early adopting "I-gotta-get-myself-an-Apple-multi-mouse" types and then to sell them another mouse in 6 months when they release the BT model. Hopefully, the early adopters will pave the financial road so the BT model comes in at the same $49 and the current wired model gets bumped to $29 for those with existing systems and free for those buying a new computer.
Short Cord
From what I understand, the cord is about 27". Why? I just can't get why Apple's mice are plagued with this situation. Just give us another 3 feet, people! I went to my closet to see some of the wired stuff I had tucked away a couple of years ago when I went cordless. Logitech gives a full 6 feet! Plenty! Some people want to keep their computer somewhere else besides right on top of themselves. Does the wire really costs that much? I know that Apple would prefer the user to attach the mouse to the USB on the keyboard or to the front of the computer when available such as the new G5s, but how about what we want?! I actually think that the best solution would be a cord that was completely retractable. It would wind inside the mouse in some engineering feet of Apple magic [terrific for travel]. And then, you could pull out the appropriate amount of cord you need, up to 5 or 6 feet and lock it in with perhaps a foot or more still inside for those who need less. Simple.
Side Buttons
I dunno about the buttons on either side. I LOVE my back/forth buttons on the Left side of my Logitech MX900. Having the thumb do all of the page dancing makes so much more sense than a thumb and a ring finger. And this only works if Apple allows CLICKING for those buttons. I just checked their site and it might just only be there to open Apps [Dashboard, etc.]
Only 4 Buttons
I guess it's a start, but I think 4 Buttons are a little on the limited side. I like my Logitech's 8 programmable buttons & scroll wheel. Perhaps those who have been sitting on the sideline with only a single-click mouse are rejoicing, but everyone else who have been using PC USB mice all along just can't too excited about a few extra buttons.
Design
I love Apple, but they sometimes get too hung up on how their stuff looks instead of how it will ultimately help the user to work. Generally their stuff looks better than everything else AND is easier to use. But in the case of their mouse, it just isn't. In my opinion, the decision to go with the same exact shape and look of their old mice is because they want to be able to say "we're still right... Our shape is the way to go and because we have sensors instead of clickable buttons, we're really not waffle-ing on the issue of One Button vs Multi-Button." I can really imagine Steve being very adamant about this is in meetings devoted to the device... He hates having to backtrack and say he was wrong. I forsee he'll have some major spin later this year when he releases a Video iPod, considering how he's been so anti-video so far whenever this thing has come up. I know that he's eating serious crow right now with the whole Intel Chip thing. Fortunately, I believe he's willing to eat crow rather than keep going on a path that won't deliver. He's stubborn, but only to a point. The mouse is a compromise. That's all. "It's the best of both worlds! It's a single button mouse for those use to it and it's a multi-button mouse for others!!"
Track Ball
I can't wait to get down to Knox Street Dallas to check this ***** out. It sounds like it might be cool, but we'll have to wait and see.
Fake Click Sounds
According to some (arstechnica.com), this is cool. Again, I'm gonna have to wait to make my own mind up on it. Of course, the fake click sound in the iPod is quite nice and adds to the experience. I could turn it off, but leave it on most of the time because it seems right. I can only assume that this adds to the mouse in the same way.
I hope Apple sells a billion of these, but my money's safe on this addition. It will have to get a whole lot more sophisticated for me to open the ol' wallet.
In my Opinion this is simply a case of too little, too late.
Holy Mackerel, that thing is hugemac-er said:Okay, Andre the Giant, sure.
Mine will be on my desk tomorrow!
On chord lengths
Keep in mind that Apple mice are made under the assumption that people will be using them connected to the USB ports on their keyboards. Do you really want 6 feet of chord sitting on your desk?
Apple's mouse chord size is perfect for its intended keyboard companion.
That said, the *keyboard* chord is way too short to go from the desktop down to a tower on the floor. That's the one they need to change.
And if Windows users want to buy Mighty Mouse? Maybe Apple should have an extension USB cable come with it. Actually, I think my original black keyboard did come with an extension. Maybe they just need to pick that back up for MM!
Keep in mind that Apple mice are made under the assumption that people will be using them connected to the USB ports on their keyboards. Do you really want 6 feet of chord sitting on your desk?
Apple's mouse chord size is perfect for its intended keyboard companion.
That said, the *keyboard* chord is way too short to go from the desktop down to a tower on the floor. That's the one they need to change.
And if Windows users want to buy Mighty Mouse? Maybe Apple should have an extension USB cable come with it. Actually, I think my original black keyboard did come with an extension. Maybe they just need to pick that back up for MM!
You're right, Apple's Power Macs have come with USB extension cords (specially keyed for the keyboards) for years and years (maybe 6 years now, going on 7?).
The "short" length is good for people who own monitors that have integrated USB hubs, such as the 24" 16:10 Sony CRTs and various Apple CRTs and LCDs.
The "short" length is good for people who own monitors that have integrated USB hubs, such as the 24" 16:10 Sony CRTs and various Apple CRTs and LCDs.
iMeowbot said:
it's meant to be plugged into the monitor anyways ... most decent LCDs come with USB hubs these days.
peace | neut
Another reason not go with blue tooth is that the mouse kicks in after the inital startup process has already begun so if you want to eject a disk holding down the mouse with the blue tooth, it would not work.
Mouse was created to make life easier and not more frustrating. Blue tooth is a luxury rather than purely funtional.
For $50, you guys do sure whine a lot. For many of your whiners, you would not buy this even if it was $29. Apple has always been a little more expensive than rest because they do the design and research.
Mouse was created to make life easier and not more frustrating. Blue tooth is a luxury rather than purely funtional.
For $50, you guys do sure whine a lot. For many of your whiners, you would not buy this even if it was $29. Apple has always been a little more expensive than rest because they do the design and research.
Cooknn said:Holy Mackerel, that thing is huge
is not that big. is all the same.
