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Apple Introduces Mighty Mouse
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Perdix said:
Who knows with Apple - but I would say it is safe to assume the BT version will be out sooner rather than later - although perhaps not until MWSF... And for what it's worth, I think the iSights are definitely due for some some of update too.
Perdix said:
As scary as it might sound, yes, I think I pretty much have!
I posted the second reply to start the whole thing off, and have been participating ever since. Of course, this is nothing compared to some other threads I've been involved in, such as this one. 
Perdix said:
This is exactly what I am doing. I want a BT mouse and dont think the iSight is now worth in Oz the same price tag it had a year ago. I want an iSight that handles low light well, just like I want a mouse without a tail.
I will hold out this year for both. By MWSF 2006 there should be some resolution on both these things.
Big Jumps
Are you arguing that multi-button is *easier*? I'd like to hear that argument.
How did "charm" just become "functionality"? They didn't say, "Single button looks, multi-button functionality," did they? Aren't charm and looks in the same basic category?
Depending on how your mind works, simple is often more efficient. Don't we use a Mac because we'd rather focus on the task at hand than on using the piece of equipment?
That aside, they mention "multibutton efficiency", not efficiency in general. They did *not* say "Stick with single-button simplicity or click more efficiently with multi-buttons." Nothing in their statement, logically speaking, indicates that the multi-button format is *more* efficient than the single-button format. Much like "no other pain reliever has been proven to work better" does not indicate that the brand being sold works better - just that we have no way to measure pain.
How's that for rationalization from a mentally-impaired one-button man?
Lacero said:
Are you arguing that multi-button is *easier*? I'd like to hear that argument.
How did "charm" just become "functionality"? They didn't say, "Single button looks, multi-button functionality," did they? Aren't charm and looks in the same basic category?
Depending on how your mind works, simple is often more efficient. Don't we use a Mac because we'd rather focus on the task at hand than on using the piece of equipment?
That aside, they mention "multibutton efficiency", not efficiency in general. They did *not* say "Stick with single-button simplicity or click more efficiently with multi-buttons." Nothing in their statement, logically speaking, indicates that the multi-button format is *more* efficient than the single-button format. Much like "no other pain reliever has been proven to work better" does not indicate that the brand being sold works better - just that we have no way to measure pain.
How's that for rationalization from a mentally-impaired one-button man?
this thread is still about a mouse right?
Fine ... who cares about bluetooth; where's my Apple branded tablet??? I love my Wacom, but an Apple version would be dope.
Im pretty sure i'll buy one of these damn Mite Mice (if i can ever find one around here).
Anyone got a shot of their Mighty Mouse all dirtied up yet? I'm not too big on white being used for functional devices ... my apple keyboard is starting to look grey/brown; some of us are cursed with sweaty hands ya' know!
peace | neut
Fine ... who cares about bluetooth; where's my Apple branded tablet??? I love my Wacom, but an Apple version would be dope.
Im pretty sure i'll buy one of these damn Mite Mice (if i can ever find one around here).
Anyone got a shot of their Mighty Mouse all dirtied up yet? I'm not too big on white being used for functional devices ... my apple keyboard is starting to look grey/brown; some of us are cursed with sweaty hands ya' know!
peace | neut
My mouse arrived today, after ordering last Tuesday. I like the mouse, in general, but it seems to not work perfect. Sometimes the right click doesn't work, and sometimes I left click, but it thinks its a right click. Furthermore, sometimes it doesn't register my click at all. These problems are not continuous, but they do repeat. Hopefully, as I use it more, these annoyances will subside.
I also think the scroll ball could have been bigger. The horizontal scrolling is also limited because our fingers are longer than wide, so you run out of finger quickly, when trying to horizontal scroll.
I also think the scroll ball could have been bigger. The horizontal scrolling is also limited because our fingers are longer than wide, so you run out of finger quickly, when trying to horizontal scroll.
jsalzer said:
Logically speaking a multi-button mouse WOULD be more efficient than a single button mouse because you have access to more options. I've never understood the idea that a single button is more efficient.
The right click alone makes the mouse more efficient as it allows simply cut/copy/paste and contextural menu options.
I've heard people argue that a single button means software writers write better software but surely better software can be written for a multi-button mouse. What they're actually saying is if there aren't extra options a lazy programmer can't screw them up.
Not so much. Keyboard shortcuts are the fastest things for cut/copy/paste because one hand is always on the keyboard, and for most people (right-handed mousers) it's the left hand, which is where Cmd+X/C/V lives.mpw said:
Keyboard shortcuts are always faster than contextual menus, if available. Not to say contextual menus aren't NICE, but I can certainly see how people could live on keyboard shortcuts and a one-button mouse.
Cless said:
But because key board shortcuts are more efficient than right clicking for a menu isnt in question.
The two buttoned mouse is still more efficient than the one button because you dont need the keyboard short cuts.
I use keyboard short cuts all the time and love them but they are not obvious to the casual user who cant remember them all (in MS Windows you at least have on screen help) a right click is one thing to remember and brings up the menu of most likely actions required. A good programmer will choose these menu options wisely and make his software intuitive, simple (for the user) and efficient.
It also doesnt matter whether youre right handed or a witch.(
)People could also live without a mouse altogether it just would be the most efficient option for most people.
I have never understood the objections against right mouse buttons, and find the arguments unpersuasive on purely logical grounds.
Does right-clicking confuse some users? Well, given that *clicking* confuses some users, so I have no doubt that it does.
However I can see no logical reason why option-click, shift-click, command-click, control click (or for that matter, double clicking, pressing and holding, and dragging, and even (god forbid) triple clicking) are the slightest bit less confusing than right-clicking.
Supposedly there are usability studies that show that a one-button mouse is easier than a two-button mouse. Supposedly there are also studies that show a two-button mosue is superior to a one-button mouse. Nobody ever seems to pull out any verifiable references, so it's hard to check out the data. If anyone has a link to such studies I'd be interested in seeing it.
(Note: self-selected anecdotal tales do not qualify. I'm afraid they don't really constitute a sufficiently rigorous dataset.)
Does right-clicking confuse some users? Well, given that *clicking* confuses some users, so I have no doubt that it does.
However I can see no logical reason why option-click, shift-click, command-click, control click (or for that matter, double clicking, pressing and holding, and dragging, and even (god forbid) triple clicking) are the slightest bit less confusing than right-clicking.
Supposedly there are usability studies that show that a one-button mouse is easier than a two-button mouse. Supposedly there are also studies that show a two-button mosue is superior to a one-button mouse. Nobody ever seems to pull out any verifiable references, so it's hard to check out the data. If anyone has a link to such studies I'd be interested in seeing it.
(Note: self-selected anecdotal tales do not qualify. I'm afraid they don't really constitute a sufficiently rigorous dataset.)
I got my mouse yesterday in the mail and since than I been playing around with it. I think it a great idea, but needs some work. For some reason my mouse pointer randomly moves to a corner for a screen. Is anyone else having this same problem?
Regards,
Ken
Regards,
Ken
kjs862 said:
I dont have the nmighty mouse, but i have had mic that do this. Try using a mouse pad or a new mousepad with a different surface.
Back to original poster
Aha - but we were not addressing if the multi-button *is* more efficient - the poster I referenced suggested that Apple's statement *implied* that it is more efficient. The statement he quoted can in no way be taken as saying that.
That's where the logic was coming in.
I'd never attempt to pull logic into the one-button or two-button *actual* efficiency argument, as I believe it varies user to user based on how their brains function and how they interact with their computer. It does get tiring to constantly hear multi-button fans either refer to multi-button users as "power users" (implying that anyone who does extensive work on computers would automatically prefer more buttons), or referring to single-button fans as being somehow mentally impaired.
To those who interact with the mouse as a tool, more buttons are easier and more efficient. To those who interact with their screens (bypassing the mouse as simply an extension of their own hand), a one-button is easier and more efficient. There's no right or wrong here. Except to refer to any other Mac user as slow (even if some of us are).
mpw said:
Aha - but we were not addressing if the multi-button *is* more efficient - the poster I referenced suggested that Apple's statement *implied* that it is more efficient. The statement he quoted can in no way be taken as saying that.
That's where the logic was coming in.
I'd never attempt to pull logic into the one-button or two-button *actual* efficiency argument, as I believe it varies user to user based on how their brains function and how they interact with their computer. It does get tiring to constantly hear multi-button fans either refer to multi-button users as "power users" (implying that anyone who does extensive work on computers would automatically prefer more buttons), or referring to single-button fans as being somehow mentally impaired.
To those who interact with the mouse as a tool, more buttons are easier and more efficient. To those who interact with their screens (bypassing the mouse as simply an extension of their own hand), a one-button is easier and more efficient. There's no right or wrong here. Except to refer to any other Mac user as slow (even if some of us are).
Come on BlueTooth Mightly Mouse. I never thought a wireless mouse would be that big of a deal but now that I have one I really like it.
according to macnews.de apple does not sell the normal one button usb mouse in europe anymore. the indicates that they will replace the one button bluetooth mouse with a mighty bluetooth mouse as well.
there is hope that in the future new macs will ship with mighty mice.
there is hope that in the future new macs will ship with mighty mice.
Just got mine this morning after ordering it two days ago! (way to go Apple EU Logistics!)
I quite like it!
I quite like it!
Lose the tail?
I like my Bluetooth Apple mouse most days but changing batteries is a drag. I cannot exchange batteries and pick up the connection. Only a restart will bring the mouse back to life. I was holding out for a Bluetooth Mighty Mouse but the batteries on my mouse failed yesterday and having to restart in the middle of work was so annoying that I logged into the Apple Store and ordered the MM. It won't ship for 10 days so it looks like they have lots of orders! I use my mouse about 6 feet from my iMac so I had to get the Belkin "A" to "B" extention cord too.Crager724 said:
it tickles!
So my dad bought me a MM (thanks dad! ); i've only been using it a few minutes and im already used to its uniqueness.
The side button(s) is (are) just a tad bit too far froward; if you have small hands or hold your hand far back you might not be able to reach it (them). The right click is cool ... the left finger sensor is a bit sensitive so you do have to have you finger off the mouse (just slightly though as you actually attempt a right-click). I'm not sure if the middle mouse button is working on PC though the control panel has an option for it. The side clicks DO work in Windows (2000). And that nipple is so small it almost tickles, but it's quite neat ... i can't wait to try this thing at home.
Well, there you have it; **** BT.
peace | neut
So my dad bought me a MM (thanks dad! ); i've only been using it a few minutes and im already used to its uniqueness.
The side button(s) is (are) just a tad bit too far froward; if you have small hands or hold your hand far back you might not be able to reach it (them). The right click is cool ... the left finger sensor is a bit sensitive so you do have to have you finger off the mouse (just slightly though as you actually attempt a right-click). I'm not sure if the middle mouse button is working on PC though the control panel has an option for it. The side clicks DO work in Windows (2000). And that nipple is so small it almost tickles, but it's quite neat ... i can't wait to try this thing at home.
Well, there you have it; **** BT.
peace | neut
Might Mouse Review
Just received my Mighty Mouse.
Installation: Smooth
Look & Feel: Just like my Pro Mouse
Functionality: (here goes)
The horizontal scrolling is weak.
Diagnol? No such thing.. it's either Vertical or Horizontal. Horizontal being very very limited. The vertical scrolling is perfect and very accurate.
The side buttons are cool. You only need to squeeze one of them for it to activate. Which brings up the argument of why they couldn't have made them independent from each other if we chose it with the software. Who knows?
The Scroll Ball button is cool, BUT they don't give us many options on what the button will do. I usually assign my Scroll button to "Back" in my browser and this is not possible.
I'm a bit disappointed only for the fact that it was $49.
The mouse is cool. but i can't justify the cost.
Definately a collectors item.
Just received my Mighty Mouse.
Installation: Smooth
Look & Feel: Just like my Pro Mouse
Functionality: (here goes)
The horizontal scrolling is weak.
Diagnol? No such thing.. it's either Vertical or Horizontal. Horizontal being very very limited. The vertical scrolling is perfect and very accurate.
The side buttons are cool. You only need to squeeze one of them for it to activate. Which brings up the argument of why they couldn't have made them independent from each other if we chose it with the software. Who knows?
The Scroll Ball button is cool, BUT they don't give us many options on what the button will do. I usually assign my Scroll button to "Back" in my browser and this is not possible.
I'm a bit disappointed only for the fact that it was $49.
The mouse is cool. but i can't justify the cost.
Definately a collectors item.
Have you tried scrolling in any photo editing or graphics program? I'm guessing there's no diagonal scrolling in word processors and web browsers, but there is in iPhoto, Photoshop and Illustrator.sphereboy said:
Rod Rod said:
I've tried every which way. There is no diagnol scrolling. It goes from horizontal to vertical vice versa.