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You realize that the IR emitter has to be pointing pretty much directly at the computer/ ATV for the button presses to register, right? Holding it "sideways" like a Wii remote won't work. And, generally speaking, twitchy gaming action and IR remotes don't mix, even if you are holding it so that the emitter generally faces the receiver.

Actually yes, I did consider orientation and thought it would be meant to be used held vertically so that IR can function properly. Admittedly it is not ideal for typical video games players but Apple users are not exactly that. Besides, if there is a separate tv version for all we know it could be BlueTooth instead of IR, in which case horizontal orientation could work.
 
While I'm very happy for all the upgrades, I'm kind of upset on the update for the Airport Extreme being hardware-based, instead of software. A newly redesigned antenna...oh well.
I guess I'll have to put my 3-month old Airport Extreme base station for sale on eBay...
I'm gonna get the new one. Plus that Magic Mouse. Looks damn sexy.
Or I might go back to a Time Capsule, since they upgraded its speed. The first time capsule was painfully slow.
Oh well. Damn you Apple. Love you, but hate you too :p
 
I think the black buttons are way too big and black. How about some silver aluminum buttons and not two big bug eye buttons. Who thought this out? Does anyone really find this attractive? Think how great it would look with aluminum buttons.
 
I guess I'll have to put my 3-month old Airport Extreme base station for sale on eBay...

Wow, did your 3 month old device break automatically when the new ones were announced? Weird, seems like a common phenomena on all the Apple boards I visit after a product announcement. :D

My advice: if you were happy with your purchase up to today's announcement, save your money. Maybe buy the new remote and/or magic mouse with the savings. ;)
 
So I just bought an Airport Extreme last week and saw this update. I went down to the store to see if they the updated AE in stock (they did not) and I was told to come back next week. The problem? My return period is up in 3 days! I spoke to the manager who gave me his card so hopefully I will be able to exchange it next week. They said there is normally a 10% restocking fee on serialized items, but hopefully I can get that waived as well (Especially since they're not really restocking it with the newer models)...I'll post an update later.

Worse comes to worse, I will stay with my current model and be happy. The range on this thing is already ridiculous
 
New Airport Extreme

Anyone know if the new airport extreme has QOS? I've got the model before this latest one and honestly, I'm pretty disappointed. The range isn't bad but if you're into torrents or even streaming video over the network while other people are using the internet, forget about it.
 
i want to try out this remote. also, i just bought a time capsule like a month ago. oh well

I'm sure the functionality will be similar, but it's nice it's all aluminum now. Nothing like having a white apple remote to go with an aluminum mbp :p
 
For those asking about any universal remotes controlling ATV, Logitech Harmony series of remotes will. I have the Harmony One, Not the cheapest but work flawlessly. They range from around $99 to $400 and they control anything you can throw at em. The software comes with something like 5,000 devices/brands etc... if you have a device it wont' control, submit the model and some other info to Logitech and they will ADD it to the list.

Best purchase I've made, easy to use software to program it and with the LED screen, once programed my technically challenged in laws can even turn on the TV/Surround/DVD or whatever they want and everything works perfect. It's all setup, right inputs, right devices, and they can't screw anything up!

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/devices/3898&cl=us,en

I picked one up for $149 about a year or so ago, seen em on sale at a Best Buy for $99 over the summer.

*One note I don't think it can control a PS3 without buying a USB dongle for the PS3, to receive the IR signal. Forget the specifics, but a buddy had an issue with it.
 
Good on you Apple

Airport Extreme being collected tomorrow. New model will be shipped in 4 days. No problems at all.

9/10 for service

Alex
 
anyone know how to tell the difference between the old AE and the new one? I would just order it online, but I have something to exchange at the Apple store and I want to make sure I get the new one.
 
Anyone else notice that the AEBS page says absolutely nothing about supporting Time Machine...? I remember that for the first gen AEBS, Time Machine support was "unofficial," but I thought the later revisions officially supported it...

This was mentioned as a feature of the Airport Extreme base station prior to the release of Leopard (one of the many features "subject to change"), but all mention of it was removed when Leopard appeared.

Since then, Apple have never officially supported the use of an AEBS to host a Time Machine backup. They only support networked Time Machine backups to a Time Capsule, or to a hard drive connected to a computer running Leopard or later.

There are workarounds to get Time Machine to use an AEBS (and several other "unsupported" network backup devices. Once it is set up, evidence is that it seems to work fine. Haven't tried myself.
 
Universal Remote + ATV

Is there a universal remote out there that includes the AppleTv?

ATV will learn any remote you want to use. There is a very nice remote training procedure. It prompts you to press the buttons you want to use for each function. It works great.
 
My sentiments exactly.

Airport extreme and an external hard drive seems like a more reliable option than Time Capsule

I used to do that but thanks to the hard disk spinning down all the time - it is a nusence, so I put it back into my desktop.

Damn I hate hardware companies who think they're saving the environment by spinning down disks.
 
This was mentioned as a feature of the Airport Extreme base station prior to the release of Leopard (one of the many features "subject to change"), but all mention of it was removed when Leopard appeared.

Since then, Apple have never officially supported the use of an AEBS to host a Time Machine backup. They only support networked Time Machine backups to a Time Capsule, or to a hard drive connected to a computer running Leopard or later.

There are workarounds to get Time Machine to use an AEBS (and several other "unsupported" network backup devices. Once it is set up, evidence is that it seems to work fine. Haven't tried myself.

I see. At least for the first-gen AEBS which I have, while not officially supported, Time Machine eventually worked -- no hacks or workarounds necessary -- after a (Apple official) firmware update. I thought that since then, the subsequent iterations would have (re-)introduced official support, but I guess not!
 
In an alternate universe where the 2nd Gen clippy shuffle never happened, this is what it should have evolved into!
 
There is quite some reference with the Universal Dock to be used with the new remote. I presume as a mini TV.
Could someone point to me where in the current Apple Store this item can be found?
 
Click wheel functionality?

They almost got it right...

If that ring had been a click wheel with scrolling capability, it would have been the perfect remote for both FrontRow and tv and given a use to the ingenious click wheel concept which will eventually die out when the iPod Classic goes away and the Nano Touch makes its debut.
 
Received new Airport Extreme today

Received my new (just released) Airport Extreme today. Was surprised to see some other software tweaks. There is a new version of Airport utility with the unit. For example, now you can list multiple MobileMe users for BacktoMyMac functionality/access from outside--- nice touch, Apple! With informal testing the range is definitely improved compared to my prior dual-band version. More to follow...
 
Received my new (just released) Airport Extreme today. Was surprised to see some other software tweaks. There is a new version of Airport utility with the unit. For example, now you can list multiple MobileMe users for BacktoMyMac functionality/access from outside--- nice touch, Apple! With informal testing the range is definitely improved compared to my prior dual-band version. More to follow...

Will you also let us know if the airdisk speed improved? I'm wondering if a faster proc (hardware) is what's really behind the increase and not just antennas.
 
Received my new (just released) Airport Extreme today. Was surprised to see some other software tweaks. There is a new version of Airport utility with the unit. For example, now you can list multiple MobileMe users for BacktoMyMac functionality/access from outside--- nice touch, Apple! With informal testing the range is definitely improved compared to my prior dual-band version. More to follow...

Does the new airport extreme add any configuration options about Quality Of Service?
 
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