For the next two weeks, people will be posting about and discussing it such that even folks that aren’t interested in it will know it exists by the time it’s released AND will be aware of several lists of pros and cons. It’s primarily to increase engagement when it’s released and it’s bound to be effective.
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Apple Introduces New 'Creator Studio' Bundle of Apps for $129 Per Year
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While the price is fair...I said no to subscriptions years ago.
Jackson Lawton
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I second everyone’s concern about the apps now being apart of a subscription. I totally get it, it takes a lot time and effort to create and update apps, especially to the caliber of Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro, but hopefully they’ve learned a thing or 2 from Affinity and keep the main functionality of the iWork apps and Freeform free. As for the pro apps, keep a one-time purchase version of each individual app available for Mac and a $4.99/month version of each individual app for the iPad. That way, depending on your individual needs and budget, you have options. I mean, with Adobe you have to buy a subscription to a bunch of apps you may not need just to get one you do. Why limited our options by forcing a one size fits all subscription model, even if you just need an app or 2?
Anyways, I’m definitely digging the new app icons btw, hopefully they update them for all of us.
Anyways, I’m definitely digging the new app icons btw, hopefully they update them for all of us.
AppleMatt
macrumors 68000
Yeah exactly.
edit: Without a hint of irony, while typing this reply Safari froze and the keyboard went blank. I had to quit and reopen it twice for to work again. Sigh.
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PBG4 Dude
macrumors 603
“My latest sub has me up to 24 cups of coffee a day!”
smithrh
macrumors 68030
As someone else noted, where is Photomator in all this?
Photomator has/had some capabilities above Photos.
Pixelmator is/was more like Photoshop than Lightroom.
I have been holding out hope that Apple could compete with Lightroom (specifically LrC). Photos falls well short, Photomator got closer but still far short, and at least pre-acquisition Pixelmator also didn't really add what was needed to match LrC.
Photomator has/had some capabilities above Photos.
Pixelmator is/was more like Photoshop than Lightroom.
I have been holding out hope that Apple could compete with Lightroom (specifically LrC). Photos falls well short, Photomator got closer but still far short, and at least pre-acquisition Pixelmator also didn't really add what was needed to match LrC.
switz
Contributor
I feel lighter already...... Yikes, Apple is sucking my ballast (money) out of my of pocket faster than it can be replaced as a non-commercial user.
Older folks are not looking for may ways to spend their limited income from social security.....
I really was just bending over to pick up my dropped pencil...
Older folks are not looking for may ways to spend their limited income from social security.....
I really was just bending over to pick up my dropped pencil...
Lone Deranger
macrumors 68000
This is bad. This is catastrophically bad.
Splitting the iWork apps into free and paid tiers. That essentially means it will be the end of the free versions a few years from now.
This basically heralds the beginning of a new era of Apple greed. 😢
Splitting the iWork apps into free and paid tiers. That essentially means it will be the end of the free versions a few years from now.
This basically heralds the beginning of a new era of Apple greed. 😢
Down with the subscription model!
They will stop supporting them and force you into the new version.
ratspg
macrumors 68030
In 3-5 years from now I think it’ll go all sub. This is a stop gap.
That’s on borrowed time however. Eventually Apple plans to phase them out and going forward you will need subscription to keep using them.
And yes, subscription makes sense since most of the new feature will need to be done online and need to be connected to internet at all time.
But they are not following playbook from Adobe by making subscription much more affordable though.
This is really bad. I don't do subscriptions.
Y'all shouldn't too. Just boycott subscriptions.
Y'all shouldn't too. Just boycott subscriptions.
Nothing wrong with subscription when one has the choice of buying it as Apple is providing unlike Adobe were users have no legal option to download and block the subscription part from Adobe software to use.
At least Apple is giving users a choice just like owning a home or renting a home.
Just have to always remember that people that don’t like what Apple’s doing tend to congregate and commiserate. Those that like or don’t care are very likely the vast majority of folks that provide their feedback by not having feedback. 🙂 Even if there were 1 million people on macrumors that don’t like LG (and there’s not), that would still be a very very small percentage of all users and doesn’t add up to be enough to change direction for.
tomtad
macrumors 68040
Call it Aperture and throw it in the bundle
Also can we separate out the iWork stuff into a separate, cheaper subscription, or bundle it with iCloud, Apple One or something
The reference to the iWork apps worries me. I know that it only mentions access to “exclusive AI features and premium content” at the moment but once a division is made then what other new features might go behind that subscription paywall?
I’ll be moving from Windows to MacOS in a few months and I’d love to use as much Apple stuff as I can. I already plan to move my email from GMail to iCloud+ and my notes from OneNote to Notes. I’d love to move my spreadsheets to Numbers because it’s so much more flexible than Excel in terms of layout capabilities but unfortunately I can’t recreate a lot of the VBA functionality that I have implemented in my more complicated Excel spreadsheets. I was hoping that one day Apple might start adding some meaningful new functionality to Numbers but now I’m worried that if it ever does it might only be accessible to people paying for this subscription package.
Jackson Lawton
macrumors member
Photomater is still available on the App Store. Guess the app still warrants being available, but not enough to include it in Creator Studio or at least update it at the present.
The pixelmator icon going from
To
is baffling. As someone pointed out, it seems to be focusing on vector graphics but it's just such a weird icon.
To
is baffling. As someone pointed out, it seems to be focusing on vector graphics but it's just such a weird icon.
Within the last decade, Apple has charged a subscription for a pro app on the Mac?
TheNewLou
macrumors regular
Yeah, it's all layers & objects. Maybe it'll be an integrated pixel/vector graphics app, eventually. Maybe with 'modes', like Affinity Designer & Photo, with a unified file format.
tomtad
macrumors 68040
I'm the same. I just assumed it was one of the support apps like Motion or something but Pixelmator! it doesn't exactly say image editor does it.
I get the top parts are layers but what are the 3 dots and the line about? It needs a paintbrush on it somewhere
Jackson Lawton
macrumors member
When have icons ever prevented someone from doing their work? So it looks different, you’ll get use to it. I mean I actually prefer the new app icons to the current ones myself. It’s not out of the ordinary though that the app icons would be update as well, as when Steve Jobs was still around, anytime they did a major app update they would also redesign the icon. He was big on that sort of thing.