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Apple Introduces New 'Creator Studio' Bundle of Apps for $129 Per Year

turbineseaplane said:
Iconography sure has gone downhill over in Cupertino.

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Eventually every app icon will be a single pixel of a unique color. It'll be up to us to distinguish 'strawberry' from 'burgundy'.
 
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If you didn’t think before we were on a slippery slope of subscriptions…maybe now you’ll see. Apple wants that sweet sweet recurring revenue and next will be Health+ subscription just so a a crap AI bot can tell you you’re a fatty who needs to move more and eat less.
 
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CarAnalogy said:
I generally agree. But the cup of coffee thing always bothers me. How much coffee are people drinking, and how expensive is this coffee, that people continually sacrifice cups of coffee to pay for things?

If this subscription approach is done right it can indeed be a legitimate alternative to piracy since in my day that's how the kids learned expensive software.

I think people are just afraid of the inevtiable enshirtification that comes once a product is a subscription. It changes the incentives.
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And it's not like Apple will double the subscription price in 3 years or anything. Luckily that's never happened before.
 
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ikir said:
And support developments. Tell that to a dev, does he/she must work for you for free?
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Not what I said.
I like supporting developers so they can work on and profit from the products I like. A perpetual license already does that and, unlike the subscription model, is not inherently predatory towards customers. This move smacks of “extracting maximum value per customer” and rent-seeking.
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Yeah, I don’t get the people asking for Apple to bring back upgrade pricing.
When the apps had upgrade prices, they were over $1000 and were updated on average every 18 to 24 months.
You would really, honestly, truly rather pay $999 every 18 months instead of $129 a year for continuing updates?
Why? Just on principal? That seems like a lot of wasted money just to prove a point or whatever.
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I suppose they want today’s prices with yesterday’s upgrades? But they don’t want to speak to how companies would pay for the ongoing and increasing support and feature patches for two years while bringing in little new revenue. Me? I’m fine not paying $999 for Final Cut Pro, but I can understand that some people may have felt better paying that. 🙂
 
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1037 said:
Down with the subscription model!
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You probably think you sound like a revolutionary war hero but to professionals who use Autodesk apps, or Foundry apps, or Zbrush/Cinema 4D, or Adobe apps you sound like a hobbyist or a software pirate trying to shove themselves in our faces. It’s cringy, not revolutionary.

Juniors in our fields cannot afford the one off cost so subscriptions lower the barrier and let them start working straight away. It is elitist to tell them to save up thousands of dollars to buy software and it is cheap and slimey to tell them to pirate.

The world doesn’t revolve around you. It revolves around people who invest in themselves to grow.

A lot of people, especially creators earning money from regular content or freelancers working remotely, have been empowered by the subscription software model. They know how to expense their software and hardware costs. They aren’t ranting on forums and don’t suffer from Adobe Derangement Syndrome.
 
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cSalmon said:
how much will Apple lose every five years not making sales of spec'd out Studios or MBPros
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Studios? Likely not much. People buying Studios feel that more people buy Studios than actually do. MBPros? Likely not much as the number of people that need to run ANY Pro app more than a couple times a month are, as Apple reported, 15% of all folks that use Pro apps at all. (which is 15% of all Mac users) Anyone with a library of FCP content is going to simply continue to not-pay anything new for FCP as the AI features are really for folks that aren’t familiar with being creative with FCP.

This action actually appears to a realization they came to years ago that most folks that use pro apps don’t use them regularly or often. Allowing this option gives folks who, say, just need access during wedding season to get in, get their work done, and get out.
 
JMalone said:
You probably think you sound like a revolutionary war hero but to professionals ...you sound like a hobbyist or a software pirate trying to shove themselves in our faces. It’s cringy, not revolutionary.

Juniors in our fields cannot afford the one off cost so subscriptions lower the barrier and let them start working straight away. It is elitist to tell them to save up thousands of dollars to buy software and it is cheap and slimey to tell them to pirate.

The world doesn’t revolve around you. It revolves around people who invest in themselves to grow.

A lot of people, especially creators earning money from regular content or freelancers working remotely, have been empowered by the subscription software model. They know how to expense their software and hardware costs. They aren’t ranting on forums and don’t suffer from Adobe Derangement Syndrome.
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The Pro has entered the room, using the verbiage of progressives against them.

It is not elitist to tell people they need to save up to buy the best tools. Every trade has always worked like that. People often start with less expensive (or [gasp!] free) tools when they're learning, & graduate to more precision, expensive tools as their skills increase. This is true whether you're a pixel poker, a code slinger, a carpenter, or a seamstress/tailor.

And nobody is empowered by the subscription software model, other than shareholders.
 
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Andy-V said:
The pixelmator icon going from

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is baffling. As someone pointed out, it seems to be focusing on vector graphics but it's just such a weird icon.
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Designed by AI.

You gotta wonder though, how an atrocious design like this makes it all the way through the approval process.
Let's just hope this is one of the last relics from the dark days of Alan Dye and not the beginning of a new design philosophy at Apple.
 
I suspect part of the problem is shareholder demands that "line go up."

Between subsriptions and the mess that is macos 26, I'm seriously considering a Thinkpad +NetBSD or Gnu/Linux as my next primary machine along with "free as in freedom" software.

 
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JulianL said:
The reference to the iWork apps worries me. I know that it only mentions access to “exclusive AI features and premium content” at the moment but once a division is made then what other new features might go behind that subscription paywall?

I’ll be moving from Windows to MacOS in a few months and I’d love to use as much Apple stuff as I can. I already plan to move my email from GMail to iCloud+ and my notes from OneNote to Notes. I’d love to move my spreadsheets to Numbers because it’s so much more flexible than Excel in terms of layout capabilities but unfortunately I can’t recreate a lot of the VBA functionality that I have implemented in my more complicated Excel spreadsheets. I was hoping that one day Apple might start adding some meaningful new functionality to Numbers but now I’m worried that if it ever does it might only be accessible to people paying for this subscription package.
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Side "Note" - when you migrate you will probably find that OneNote is more like Freeform than Notes/Notepad.
 
If they ever figure out real AI, we can use it to write a better OS than macOS, and better software than Final Cut et al in about two seconds. Then no one will need Apple anymore.
 
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I would love for Apple to simplify these subscription models.

Have ONE monthly or annual subscription with the ability to turn individual services on and off as needed. When a set of features are added, "bundle" pricing may be applied. Removing a service may mean you no longer qualify for a bundle, and that would be fine. But it gives customers a single monthly or annual payment and an easy to way to manage what that payment covers.

Adding yet another subscription to manage is not the direction that Apple needs to be going. Keep it simple!
 
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