When a European buys an Apple product it never gets anywhere near North America.
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Well, unless the China-Europe bit involves flying over the Pacific, North America and then the Atlantic.
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Apple Introduces Updated Apple TV with Netflix Integration, TV Show Rentals
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When a European buys an Apple product it never gets anywhere near North America.
Edit:
Well, unless the China-Europe bit involves flying over the Pacific, North America and then the Atlantic.
Cool, but I was hoping for more. I'll buy it the same day someone get 1080p mkv's working on it
I'm rocking a Mvix Ultio Pro (http://goo.gl/mmGP)... hope i could post link.. There was a lighter version of this same device called Mvix Ultio that ran cheaper. This thing is a beast to watch movies on, no problems with 1080p MKV files at all.
I would bet Apple caused more damage to music industry profits then all existing illegal downloads combined with all future downloads for the next 100 years. It is not secret, Apple only interested in selling their hardware. Content providers is just a hassle they need to deal with... When those "wise media moguls" will realize this simple thing? Nobody seems to be capable to learn any lessons from iTunes.
...and what a surprise, its not called iTV. Some people need to chill out when rumours fly in the future - it can make them look stupid.
Hard to believe all the Brits whingeing about the price of the Apple TV. It costs freaking $20 US to have a crappy sandwich and some stale crisps for lunch in London; you think you guys would be used to being gouged.
New Apple TV : 119$ Canadian.
My new LG BD560C : 119$ Canadian.
My existing RJ-45 box : 0$
Being able to watch MKVs, AVIs, DivXs streamed from a standard DLNA server on top of getting Blu-ray and 1080p : priceless.
Screw the wireless bit, the new AppleTV is a waste. Most will probably end up hacking them up for XBMC or Boxee.
My new LG BD560C : 119$ Canadian.
My existing RJ-45 box : 0$
Being able to watch MKVs, AVIs, DivXs streamed from a standard DLNA server on top of getting Blu-ray and 1080p : priceless.
Screw the wireless bit, the new AppleTV is a waste. Most will probably end up hacking them up for XBMC or Boxee.
That's right it doesn't require much of user interactions at all, but that doesn't make the fact that i bricked 3 of them go away. If i can handle BIOS upgrades i think i can handle WD TV firmware upgrades, but damn things just brake.
This newTV makes sense from Apple's iTunes store ecosystem point of view. If you don't live in that ecosystem, there is very little point to go for the Apple solution.
However, the main reason I bought an
I'm in the same boat with a 2TB drive attached to my apple TV which has over 600 movies on it, all neatly synced in the 'My Movies' section on the Apple TV. I love mobileme and I think they should ramp up the storage so I can have this amount of data streamed from it. Right now though I don't know what to do.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Netflix has hundreds of movies online....iTunes has hundreds of movies online. Netflix has lots of TV shows online....iTunes has lots of TV shows online. Netflix has a great subscription option....iTUNES DOES NOT.
Why the heck can't Apple work out a deal like the one that Netflix has had for freaking years?! I don't want to pay .99 to watch a stupid TV show. I want to be able to pay a flat fee and watch whatever I want whenever I want. iTunes could provide that if they'd move to a subscription model (even if you had to have an AppleTV to take advantage of it). I'm confused.
As someone who already owns an AppleTV I really have about zero incentive to buy this supposed "upgrade". Sorry Jobs, if this is the best you can come up with after 4 years don't be surprised about another 4 years of lackluster sales.
Netflix is focused on trying to own video distribution. Apple sees this as a hobby.
Netflix was not observed dictating terms to the owners of music media when Apple got that industry under their thumb. Good or bad for us consumers, does it really make sense that Apple was telling these other companies that all their stuff was worth 99 cents- that all quality of music was equal?
As a result, the last thing the video-oriented studios want is to find themselves under Apple's other thumb.
Nothing I have in MKV format is available for purchase in North America tyvm.
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Apple failed again with this product. It looks cheap to boot (really, all black plastic box ?)
I did answer you, nothing I have in MKV format is available for purchase in North America tyvm. I buy all my movies on DVD/Blu-ray. MKV is for stuff I can't buy at all, even if I wanted to.
Are you really that pissed Apple failed to deliver that you feel the need to attack people who buy better products with the piracy argument ?
You're wrong about that.
Starting at 56:00 "So what about content?" 59:34 the Internet tab has the subheadings: Netflix, YouTube, Podcasts, MobileMe, Flickr, Radio. Steve also says "Podcasts. Thousands of podcasts. Audio and video podcasts." You can also stream content from your computer.
My deal
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Going to buy this for my Family room TV for the Netflix and the streaming of music, pics, movies on my iTunes. My MBP is always up and running anyway and is located in the kitchen. We have a Wii if we want to stream Netflix but that is upstairs hooked up to the kids TV. $99 is cheap and I, unfortunately, don't "need" a new DVD player. I currently don't have a Blu-Ray DVD player or one that supports Netflix, etc.. and I don't want more "stuff" if I don't "need" more "stuff" (see http://www.storyofstuff.com/ )
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Saving up for a Mac-Mini for the Family room TV (with then put new ATV in bedroom) so that we can do it all. Would like to one day get rid of cable and hook up a digital antenna for local stuff, use Netflix for streaming, and other services (Hulu?, etc) for a la carte needs.
Short Term:
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Going to buy this for my Family room TV for the Netflix and the streaming of music, pics, movies on my iTunes. My MBP is always up and running anyway and is located in the kitchen. We have a Wii if we want to stream Netflix but that is upstairs hooked up to the kids TV. $99 is cheap and I, unfortunately, don't "need" a new DVD player. I currently don't have a Blu-Ray DVD player or one that supports Netflix, etc.. and I don't want more "stuff" if I don't "need" more "stuff" (see http://www.storyofstuff.com/ )
Long Term:
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Saving up for a Mac-Mini for the Family room TV (with then put new ATV in bedroom) so that we can do it all. Would like to one day get rid of cable and hook up a digital antenna for local stuff, use Netflix for streaming, and other services (Hulu?, etc) for a la carte needs.
Žalgiris;10970841 said:
This is a good point. On one point, Apple TV sucks because Apple hasn't been able to work out a subscription model with the studios. On the other hand, Apple TV sucks because it doesn't support a container format that nobody who doesn't download/rip video illegally would ever need to use. Do people seriously expect Apple to make consumer-friendly deals with the studios while simultaneously making it easy to watch pirated material?
Where the girlz at?
Anyone think that girls give a Rats a$$ about 720 to 1080. It's mostly a guy geeky thing.
Take it for what it is and the easy of use.
Like your girlfriend.
Just saying...
Anyone think that girls give a Rats a$$ about 720 to 1080. It's mostly a guy geeky thing.
Take it for what it is and the easy of use.
Like your girlfriend.
Just saying...
Again,I'm not getting one either but just because we're not the target audience doesn't mean it's a fail.
Most people probably have no idea how to hack it
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Same old tired argument. By extension, we must wait until Comcasts, etc decide to fully widen the whole nation's pipes so that they can easily accommodate streams of 1080p before it makes sense to release
TVs with 1080p? Comcasts, etc have ZERO interest in that for 3 reasons:- they are legally bound to maximize profits, which is not accomplished by sinking money into infrastructure unless that expense generates considerable more return (aka higher revenues from broadband subscriptions)
- typically they have a monopoly on broadband, or are 1 of maybe 2 choices in some areas. Too little competition for either player to compete on price, and the other player- if available- is also bound to maximize profitability (so see the first bullet)
- why bother if the broadband is going to be used to undermine their very lucrative cableTV revenue streams?
Stuff like that doesn't get done until the pressure is on (a monopoly), much like weaning us off oil (are we going to have to run out first?). When the pressure is on- when demand for greater bandwidth starts hitting them in the pocketbook- THEN they'll work on fattening the pipes. We just witnessed a variation of this when Verizon's "map" campaign called AT&T out for lack of 3G coverage. What did AT&T do about it first? Tried to sue to get Verizon to stop running those ads. Since? While they apparently have spent some money on 3G expansion, the bulk of the strategy is to run the 97% coverage commercials (conveniently leaving out that it includes a lot of 2G Edge, not 3G).
What makes sense is for Apple to LEAD with the hardware- just like they do by putting the latest from intel into Macs- long before the software is coded to take advantage of it. Waiting for the broadband to expand in a country the size of America is going to be a very LONG wait.
Besides, its not like everyone would be forced to only download huge 1080p files. Those with slower connections... or those satisfied with 720p... could keep downloading 720p. And those with the patience or the broadband now, could enjoy 1080p now.
The U.S. is not the only market for Apple products. Lots of other countries where this could sell well have the broadband for 1080p files.
And lastly, sources of content for
TV are not entirely limited to what we can get from the iTunes store. We've been able to make our own for more than 4 years with 1080 consumer camcorders. Youtube has 1080 content. Podcast video can easily go 1080 (some already is). Especially as it applies to creating our own content (HD home movies) broadband outside the home is completely irrelevant as an argument against TV having 1080p capabilities.
That's a first.Žalgiris;10971015 said:
I don't cough up money to our media overlords when I can get it for free. Maybe it's time to get riled up over trading DVR/PVR materials? Station logos get a free pass?