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The thing that makes me question this is I don't think most top security personnel have social/ professional network profiles. ... especially someone with 26 years experience. At some point they make enemies so they like to keep a low "profile".
 
THis is really sounding outlandish. Either a). whoever runs Apple security is a numbskull, or b). this story is false.

Seems very unlikely a company security department would go out on a which hunt for a prototype. Why would they not contact police first? Makes no sense and when things don't make sense, they usually are not true.
They wouldn't contact the police, because there is nothing illegal here.

The actual cost of the phone to Apple (probably around $100 or so) means that it might not even have to be turned over to the police if found (depends on the local laws).

If it is true that this guy impersonated an officer, I hope they throw the book at him for that. There is nothing that ever justifies doing this. If anyone higher up at Apple suggested he do so, then they should be prosecuted as well. Just because it is a large company, it does not mean they should be able to get away with this kind of stuff.
 
This is not true. Apple could never do something like this. Anyone who disagrees is not an Apple purist and doesn't belong on these forums.

:apple:
 
FINALLY! ITS CONFIRMED!

Apple has its own private military.

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Looking forward to all the fan boys defending Apple's criminal activity.

Except it isn't. There's been no such determination. Or are you expecting exactly that determination to be made?

It's not criminal until charges are laid and a conviction obtained.
 
This is clearly fishy. But I have my money on this...

The retired police officer that now works at Apple called up some of his buddies that were still on the force and said "Hey, I have to go investigate a house that we traced a phone to, can you come and back me up?"

His friends said ok, they all showed up, and it was never documented. If anyone gets bagged, it COULD be the police station, if that's how it really went down.
 
Mr. Calderón needs to sue Apple's ass big time; might as well cash in on having your rights violated by the wealthiest corporation in the country.
 
It's not criminal until charges are laid and a conviction obtained.

uh, it definitely is criminal if it happened. you don't need charges and a conviction for something to be illegal.

or is this a troll
 
Incredible does Apple own that whole town or what? Reminds me of some crazy cult how followers also work and manage the police department. :(
 
They questioned the family and threatend them with deportation. Over a freakin phone, Apple should be ashamed of themselves. No phone is priceless Apple is out of control and should be punished.
 
seems as if this guy being a fairly new employee of Apple wanted to prove his worth and got a little gung ho about the operation. at least that's how it appears at the moment.
 
man.. every day i read some new story of the police state closing in on us. This is really getting to be some 1984 nonsense.. now apple's in on it too.
Glorious

Whoa, 2011 really is like 1984.

Well, they didn't say 2011 wouldn't be like 1984, did they?


mmm, maybe that was the "police"s mistake, maybe the Iphone 5 looks like a fridge.

I wish Apple made kitchen equipment! I'd buy it.


Guys, I don't think anyone has asked the important question. WHO THE HELL BRINGS A PROTOTYPE IPHONE TO A BAR WITH THEM???

An Apple employee charged with bringing it with them off campus and to use in real world situations. Just like last year.

There's a difference between real world testing, which is a good thing, and taking it to a place where there's a chance (and a precedent) people get drunk and forget things, which is a stupid thing.

Someone suggested earlier that testing is done by low level, cheap young testers. Like **** it is. There's no way Apple would let anyone lower that department head anywhere near an iPhone prototype, surely!??!


Interesting point, I think, is that the iPhone's geolocating is pretty accurate. That, tied to the fact that the bloke had been to that restraunt at the time the iPhone went missing, is pretty compelling, if circumstantial, evidence. He clearly has it.

Perhaps in future they should include a device inside the iPhone that can't be switched off that allows you to trace it when nearby, something broadcasting a short-range location signal to be picked up by a tracker.
 
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The guy's 26 but calls himself "retired" and "senior"... what a goof-bag!
 
So I just spoke to a lawyer about this whole thing. I work in a court and one of the lawyers here is an ex-police officer himself. According to him:

We're all protected by the fourth amendment from unreasonable search & seizure, yes. But the problem here is that we are not protected against non-law enforcement. If this guy gave this group of people permission to search his home based on their lie that they were police officers, he would have to prove that they indeed lied about that.

If taken to court, it would have to be proven that they impersonated law enforcement, which would be nearly impossible as this situation seems to be a lot of hearsay, which is often impermissable in court.

Furthermore, even if it is proven that they falsely identified themselves as officers, any evidence they obtain during the search would still be usable in court against the guy who "stole" it.

This is all hugely speculative and hypothetical, but I'm just offering it up as conversation fodder.

Enjoy.

Good information. 1+. Thanks. :D
 
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The guy's 26 but calls himself "retired" and "senior"... what a goof-bag!

aaaah ... that's 26 years experience.
 
This is clearly fishy. But I have my money on this...

The retired police officer that now works at Apple called up some of his buddies that were still on the force and said "Hey, I have to go investigate a house that we traced a phone to, can you come and back me up?"

His friends said ok, they all showed up, and it was never documented. If anyone gets bagged, it COULD be the police station, if that's how it really went down.

^^^ this is what happened ... Cops do this all the time.

Even though it is illegal ... many Cops think they are entitled and above the law.
 
Mr. Calderón needs to sue Apple's ass big time; might as well cash in on having your rights violated by the wealthiest corporation in the country.

I think that's why he came forward. It's been a month.
Either he just realized they weren't cops and came forward or he's looking at the $$$$.

But before anything can happen he needs to head over to SFPD and file a report.

If he doesn't then only several possible reasons come to mind.
1) He's lying and this whole thing is a hoax, which I doubt.

2) He is legal but maybe someone at his place isn't. So he would rather not have anyone investigate that. And maybe that's why he was so quick to let Mr. Colon and friends go through his stuff.

3) Apple gets to him first and it all goes away.
 
This is clearly fishy. But I have my money on this...

The retired police officer that now works at Apple called up some of his buddies that were still on the force and said "Hey, I have to go investigate a house that we traced a phone to, can you come and back me up?"

His friends said ok, they all showed up, and it was never documented. If anyone gets bagged, it COULD be the police station, if that's how it really went down.

Exactly. :)
 
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