The thing that makes me question this is I don't think most top security personnel have social/ professional network profiles. ... especially someone with 26 years experience. At some point they make enemies so they like to keep a low "profile".
They wouldn't contact the police, because there is nothing illegal here.THis is really sounding outlandish. Either a). whoever runs Apple security is a numbskull, or b). this story is false.
Seems very unlikely a company security department would go out on a which hunt for a prototype. Why would they not contact police first? Makes no sense and when things don't make sense, they usually are not true.
Looking forward to all the fan boys defending Apple's criminal activity.
Steve who?
You have to email Tim now.![]()
It's not criminal until charges are laid and a conviction obtained.
man.. every day i read some new story of the police state closing in on us. This is really getting to be some 1984 nonsense.. now apple's in on it too.
Glorious
Whoa, 2011 really is like 1984.
mmm, maybe that was the "police"s mistake, maybe the Iphone 5 looks like a fridge.
Guys, I don't think anyone has asked the important question. WHO THE HELL BRINGS A PROTOTYPE IPHONE TO A BAR WITH THEM???
An Apple employee charged with bringing it with them off campus and to use in real world situations. Just like last year.
So I just spoke to a lawyer about this whole thing. I work in a court and one of the lawyers here is an ex-police officer himself. According to him:
We're all protected by the fourth amendment from unreasonable search & seizure, yes. But the problem here is that we are not protected against non-law enforcement. If this guy gave this group of people permission to search his home based on their lie that they were police officers, he would have to prove that they indeed lied about that.
If taken to court, it would have to be proven that they impersonated law enforcement, which would be nearly impossible as this situation seems to be a lot of hearsay, which is often impermissable in court.
Furthermore, even if it is proven that they falsely identified themselves as officers, any evidence they obtain during the search would still be usable in court against the guy who "stole" it.
This is all hugely speculative and hypothetical, but I'm just offering it up as conversation fodder.
Enjoy.
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The guy's 26 but calls himself "retired" and "senior"... what a goof-bag!
This is clearly fishy. But I have my money on this...
The retired police officer that now works at Apple called up some of his buddies that were still on the force and said "Hey, I have to go investigate a house that we traced a phone to, can you come and back me up?"
His friends said ok, they all showed up, and it was never documented. If anyone gets bagged, it COULD be the police station, if that's how it really went down.
Mr. Calderón needs to sue Apple's ass big time; might as well cash in on having your rights violated by the wealthiest corporation in the country.
Good information. 1+. Thanks.![]()
This is clearly fishy. But I have my money on this...
The retired police officer that now works at Apple called up some of his buddies that were still on the force and said "Hey, I have to go investigate a house that we traced a phone to, can you come and back me up?"
His friends said ok, they all showed up, and it was never documented. If anyone gets bagged, it COULD be the police station, if that's how it really went down.