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Apple Invites Media to October 30th Event in New York City

Gurman says:

Beyond tablets, the company is planning an entry-level Mac with a high-resolution screen to succeed the once-popular MacBook Air. The new Mac mini desktop will focus on professional users.
https://www.bloomberg.com/technology
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He says entry level Mac but doesn’t say MacBook Air. This makes me wonder if the Air, rMB and rMBP w/o touchbar are being combined into one product that had an entry level model and one that’s more powerful? And Mac mini focused on professional users....is that just a way for Apple to raise the price on the mini?
 
RevTEG said:
While I understand your frustrations, most businesses do not change their model when they are raking in billions of successful dollars. Businesses change when customers demand change by not buying their products. Apple’s making so much money right now that it seems the mass majority like the design and direction of their products. If I where you, I wouldn’t expect Apple to deviate from it’s current path. The proof is in the profit and Apple continues to make a ton of it. Businesses create for the majority and the majority seem to still be making Apple billions. Customers were satisfied with their product direction to make Apple a trillion dollar company. What company wouldn’t see that as product approval?
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This type of thinking is the reason Apple is only ever one day away from becoming the next Blockbuster, Sears or Toys R us. :)
 
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10am Eastern Time.
such a much better for Tokyo viewers (11pm) instead of 2am usually.
 
EightyTwenty said:
Spending $3000 on a Mac Mini for coding makes no sense. You can hook up the Macbook Pro to your $150 monitor just fine.
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Do you think developers don't need any performance or have you just not looked at the price of the higher end Macbook Pros?

I'm willing to spend around $3000 on a new Mac computer yesterday. Surely you can wrap your head around this idea that a computer sans display might be cheaper than another computer with the same specs that includes it. Maybe with those savings one can upgrade further in the event that the manufacturer of these computers doesn't make it easy or possible to upgrade the machine's internals post purchase?

If there's a new Mac Mini and Macbook Pro, both with the specs I'm after, for the exact same price I'll buy the Macbook Pro okay?
 
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With the styling of the logos as well as it taking place in NYC, I wonder if Apple is planning to have a surprise music/tv/entertainment focus in addition to the expected MacBook/iPad updates.

Maybe new beats/HomePod/Apple Music announcements? Or some hints of their TV plans?
 
DNichter said:
They already have their desktop OS in macOS, I don’t see them abandoning that anytime soon (people on the forums heads would explode). The iOS counterpart to macOS is the iPad. I am not sure what a desktop class device is, but if the apps are there, iPad can grow. They are bringing tabbed multitasking to iPad next year, this is a creative approach in my eyes. They could potentially do the same in regards to some sort of trackpad support (maybe it’s not what we traditionally think of today) depending on the implementation. Obviously we’ll see what happens, but I expect Apple to continue to focus on growing the iPad experience into something much more than it is today, with the ability to run macOS apps, and Macs the ability to run iPad apps.

We might be saying the same thing in the end, so not trying to argue or anything. Either way, the future looks great for iPad.
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I see the day coming when iOS replaces MacOS. In order for that to happen, iOS needs a desktop user interface. I could see a future version of macOS being an iOS variant with a Mac UI. I have a hard time believing that Apple will ship an A-series Mac until that device runs iOS, not a port of macOS.

What it boils down to is the need for menus, palettes, multiple windows, pointer support, etc. This is what defines a desktop device in my mind. I'm sure Apple will continue to push the iPad in cool new directions but I don't see it becoming a legitimate desktop replacement ever. Adding pointer support would completely change the way users interact with the device. Apple says as much when asked why they don't build a touchscreen Mac. If adding touch to the Mac muddies the Mac experience, then adding pointer support to iOS does the same for iPad.

Apple can add split screen and tabbed multitasking and whatever else it wants to the iPad, but there's no way I could do the kind of work I do on an iPad.
 
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Since the event will be held in Brooklyn, I will be expecting quite a few new products introduced. I would also expect Tim will be participating in the Halloween parade the next day.
 
MTW said:
There are long term costs to making all your products worse. I expect Apple to continue hurting themselves until they feel the pain. Your mechanism of analysis is the same one that led Blackberry to where they are now; it is simply not an intelligent way to look at a company.
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You may very well be right. I’ve only been an Apple only guy since 2007, but every product I’ve bought over the years has been excellent and in my opinion an upgrade over the previous. I didn’t prefer the gen one butterfly keys but my wife loved them. Other than that I’ve been impressed with Apple products. I don’t see what they’ve done as going backwards at all. BlackBerry isn’t the best example. I mean they didn’t want to move on from a physical keyboard on a phone. Time and generations change. My mom can’t use a computer without a mouse. I’ve never even owned one. My kids think it’s just a small rodent.

Edit: I did own a mouse 19 years ago that came with a Compact Desktop. The only desktop I ever owned.
 
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StellarVixen said:
Scares me? No, because I know iOS is a mobile operating system, and will run the sandboxed apps forever.

Making iOS a serious development platform will require it to be open to the level of Mac OS, and that is not gonna happen anytime soon (probably never). Otherwise, iOS would be useless for anything other than maybe that stripped down Xcode app.
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The thing is, it doesn't need to be a "serious" development platform, just the platform Apple needs for their ecosystem. The vast majority of Apple's revenue comes from everything but the Mac, so I don't think Apple cares one way or another how "open" it is in the long run.
 
robbyx said:
I see the day coming when iOS replaces MacOS. In order for that to happen, iOS needs a desktop user interface. I could see a future version of macOS being an iOS variant with a Mac UI. I have a hard time believing that Apple will ship an A-series Mac until that device runs iOS, not a port of macOS.

What it boils down to is the need for menus, palettes, multiple windows, pointer support, etc. This is what defines a desktop device in my mind. I'm sure Apple will continue to push the iPad in cool new directions but I don't see it becoming a legitimate desktop replacement ever. Adding pointer support would completely change the way users interact with the device. Apple says as much when asked why they don't build a touchscreen Mac. If adding touch to the Mac muddies the Mac experience, then adding pointer support to iOS does the same for iPad.

Apple can add split screen and tabbed multitasking and whatever else it wants to the iPad, but there's no way I could do the kind of work I do on an iPad.
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I tend to agree with the pointer support thing...even if it were "just" in the new smart keyboard and not available any other way in the short term...that would make it more like a Surface and therefore more like a laptop hybrid.
 
ryanwarsaw said:
This type of thinking is the reason Apple is only ever one day away from becoming the next Blockbuster, Sears or Toys R us. :)
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And they very well may be. That doesn’t bother me. There will always be a tech company that makes products that work for my needs. If that’s not Apple then so be it. However, Toys R Us is still making money overseas (was in one yesterday in the Philippines), Sears sells junk and technology outgrew blockbuster (redbox and Netflix). Not the greatest of examples. Apples not stuck in the old. They push forward. But if they go out of business, my life will be fine.
 
ryanwarsaw said:
This type of thinking is the reason Apple is only ever one day away from becoming the next Blockbuster, Sears or Toys R us. :)
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Apple has always been one day away from doom, because the haters simply don’t understand how it works. These days, the louder the uproar (especially from the old guard), the more successful I believe Apple will be. Been pretty accurate so far.
 
Tozovac said:
I'll buy into the hype/need/benefit of bezeless iPads once it's proven that no spare runout space/margins are best...once it's standard that pictures on the wall are frameless, that magazines & books are found to be best when the printed words touch the page edges, and when mothers teach their children to place glasses of milk right on the edge of the table.

Otherwise, bezeless ipads with little space for grip are just for satisfying Jony Ive's fetishes and for customers who plan to use their buttonless offscreen-swipe-needing fragile smart glass without a protective case.
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Even with my 2017 iPad Pro, I couldn’t use it comfortably without the Proper Handstrap: https://www.studioproper.com.au/products/hand-strap
 
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Abazigal said:
Apple has always been one day away from doom, because the haters simply don’t understand how it works. These days, the louder the uproar (especially from the old guard), the more successful I believe Apple will be. Been pretty accurate so far.
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lol Finally somebody who noticed my smile.
 
autrefois said:
So on Oct. 18 they’re announcing their annual October event will take place on Oct. 30, just barely in October? Kind of seems like a student who looked at the calendar and said “crap, my assignment’s due at the end of October and I haven’t even started yet.” Hopefully the product(s) announced will be better thought out than their scheduling/announcing of the event seems to be.
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LOL. Is your disdain of Apple so intense that you've convinced yourself that it works that way and Apple just now rented a major venue in New York City at the last moment to put on an event across the country presenting new hardware???? That it doesn't occur to you that such an event takes many weeks of preparation to prepare sets, advertising, support staff, etc., and that has to be carefully timed around new hardware and software being ready for primetime? LOL.
 
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