Apple Invites Media to October 30th Event in New York City

[DNichter]

Nope. I'm not sure planet you're on, but there is nothing that works better than Apple's official magsafe on the current Macbook Pro. You don't have to chance reliability problems nor rely on 3rd party reverse engineering strategies.

The current crop of 3rd party magsafes are rated for at most 60W, have power delivery issues, or are just plain unreliable. You're not going to find a dependable aftermarket magsafe solution for all current MBPs.

If you have some recommendations, please share.



And all this time, I thought Apple was a design company. That's why they created thin laptops and phones with smaller batteries. Sure, it's all about getting the job done, right?



I said some because I was hoping you would share which ones DO reliably work for 87W macbooks. It seems I failed at this assumption. Oh, don't share any Kickstarter links either.



Not sure if it's an excuse or pointing out a deficiency that many people outside of forums have expressed concerns.

I'm not sure where the "significant difference" this has on my real life. I have had 4 15" MBPs here (a 2018, a 2016, a 2015, and a 2011) for doing work and home projects.

Is it ok for me to point out a deficiency? Am I bothering you so much that I am pointing out a negative bullet point in Apple's MBP delivery?
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You are the epitome of who the iPad was targeted for when it comes to replacing the Mac. Simple straight forward management. At my work and as a software engineer, it doesn't fit its niche at all. We cannot substitute an iPad for a MBP.
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How do you make iOS apps? Macs aren't going away any time soon unless Apple can allow you to create a full fledged iOS app in iOS. The only thing Apple is "envisioning" is ways to get more sales. Slow and steady the ship sails.
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For some people's use cases, they don't need a full fledged sit down experience. I used to pull out my iPad when I travel for surfing the net or doing simple tasks. Beyond that, iOS for me has been a gimpy experience. iPad for some vacations, MacOS for everything else.

Yea I get that. I have said that over and over again in this forum and for some reason it doesn't resonate. Use the best tool for the job. The iPad is just another computer offered by Apple, the same as a MacBook Pro, an iMac, or a Mac Pro. Most people choose the product that works best for their needs. I wouldn't call anything I do simple or straightforward though, as that's an obvious slight by you and others on here, I am just not doing operational work like yourself. For some reason on this site, if you don't code or do other mundane data entry, the work you do is insignificant.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Same here, but 8k 30"+ displays, not the same old 5k we've had for four years

Not sure how many $4-5k displays Apple would sell, but I’m sure they’re coming. Maybe next year. I wonder if the new Apple monitors will debut with the mini later this month or next year with the refreshed Mac Pro?

 

[gugy]

Same here, but 8k 30"+ displays, not the same old 5k we've had for four years

Well, sure but I would be satisfied with stand alone 5K displays. Hopefully at 30" sizes. I just need to see these released!

 

[sshambles]

Whatever they announce, they had better plan on shipping within a specific date they give. No 'AirPower' announcements that they later shelve. "Real artists ship".

 

[inkswamp]

That is so funny. How about photographers, graphic designers, animators, architects, video producers/editors, music producers, engineers using scientific software such as MATLAB, 3D modeling/rendering, and on and on.

Yeah, let's talk about them. I've worked with photographers, designers and videographers/editors. They're migrating away from Macs. It's pretty clear from Apple's sales that they're not gaining new converts in those areas. In fact, the last place I worked (part of a major U.S. media company) was phasing the Macs out company-wide precisely because Apple doesn't seem committed to making the Mac a compelling platform anymore. Do you see evidence that says otherwise? I don't.

Most Apple desktop customers prefer iMac, and utterly pathetic in no way describes it.

"Most Apple desktop customers" is a self-selecting group. Of course they prefer an iMac as that's the only real middle ground and that's where most Mac users are going to land. If not, they would be elsewhere. I don't really understand your point. The context of this discussion isn't what machine Mac users are choosing but rather why Apple isn't updating more frequently or at least within a reasonable time frame, and why they don't seem to be putting any real thought into the Mac platform anymore. I don't see it. And given that some products have sat for multiple years with barely any attention or minor spec bumps, I'm surprised anyone here is arguing otherwise.

 

[Bacillus]

Yeah, let's talk about them. I've worked with photographers, designers and videographers/editors. They're migrating away from Macs. It's pretty clear from Apple's sales that they're not gaining new converts in those areas. In fact, the last place I worked (part of a major U.S. media company) was phasing the Macs out company-wide precisely because Apple doesn't seem committed to making the Mac a compelling platform anymore. Do you see evidence that says otherwise? I don't.
"Most Apple desktop customers" is a self-selecting group. Of course they prefer an iMac as that's the only real middle ground and that's where most Mac users are going to land. If not, they would be elsewhere. I don't really understand your point. The context of this discussion isn't what machine Mac users are choosing but rather why Apple isn't updating more frequently or at least within a reasonable time frame, and why they don't seem to be putting any real thought into the Mac platform anymore. I don't see it. And given that some products have sat for multiple years with barely any attention or minor spec bumps, I'm surprised anyone here is arguing otherwise.

Well phrased - and even a dead duck with 2 blind eyes can see it.
When I look at the current gallery of dated Mac products, it’s a bloody shame how this Board is treating Steve’s heritage, and how the best of the industry that was given upon them got lamented.
They have the money, endless budgets, the most patents, the best talent in the industry, the global distribution network and still completely blow it.
Numerous people invested in the Mac industry paying premium prices for years and years - now only to find their money back in the iTurf branche, real-estate and a hughest cash pile in the world with no clue how to effectively spend it.
Cook, Schiller and some other traitors, instead of being heralded, should be sent off (if not: slammed out of their pants) the next keynote.
This malfunctioning just can’t be tolerated any longer.

 

[Vonjover]

Im a photographer and im migrating away from the mac soon.

Yeah, let's talk about them. I've worked with photographers, designers and videographers/editors. They're migrating away from Macs. It's pretty clear from Apple's sales that they're not gaining new converts in those areas. In fact, the last place I worked (part of a major U.S. media company) was phasing the Macs out company-wide precisely because Apple doesn't seem committed to making the Mac a compelling platform anymore. Do you see evidence that says otherwise? I don't.


"Most Apple desktop customers" is a self-selecting group. Of course they prefer an iMac as that's the only real middle ground and that's where most Mac users are going to land. If not, they would be elsewhere. I don't really understand your point. The context of this discussion isn't what machine Mac users are choosing but rather why Apple isn't updating more frequently or at least within a reasonable time frame, and why they don't seem to be putting any real thought into the Mac platform anymore. I don't see it. And given that some products have sat for multiple years with barely any attention or minor spec bumps, I'm surprised anyone here is arguing otherwise.

 

[Abazigal]

How do you make iOS apps? Macs aren't going away any time soon unless Apple can allow you to create a full fledged iOS app in iOS. The only thing Apple is "envisioning" is ways to get more sales. Slow and steady the ship sails.

I never said that the Mac is going to be dropped by Apple anytime soon, but their focus is clearly on mobile devices and wearables (and the associated accessories and peripherals).

So expect the Mac to play an increasingly niche role in Apple’s product lineup. So neither of us are wrong. You still need a Mac to create ios apps, and there will still be Macs around, just not necessarily in the exact form factor you desire.

 

[44267547]

if you believe that then you should be thinking he's going to announce that they are just cancelling all Macs and Mac OS. because all the profit is in iOS

All the profit is _not_ in iOS, if you factor Apple services alone, that’s a *major* part with Apple Pay, iTunes, Apple Music, the App Store, etc. iOS starts with the iPhone and branches off with the AirPods, Apple Watch and iPad. It all ties it into the ecosystem, but it’s not all the profit necessarily tied in just to iOS, when services are equally important to tie the user into Apple.

 

[kipwheeler]

Why would anyone ever use a tablet when they can sit down at a 24 inch or 27 inch iMac? Why would anyone ever use a tablet (outside) when a modern laptop is only a few pounds and is significantly more capable?

Because you have to set a laptop down on a flat surface to type on it effectively, using both hands. You probably also have to have a place to sit yourself while using the laptop for an extended period of time.

With a well-designed tablet or iPad app, you can use it with one hand while walking, which is how I use my iPad when teaching, standing in front of the class or when pacing the halls and grading papers with an apple pencil.

I love having a nice, powerful desktop for sit-down jobs. I love having a small, mobile surface to write on when I'm not in a sit-down environment. The laptop is a compromise between those two extremes.

 

[ipponrg]

Yea I get that. I have said that over and over again in this forum and for some reason it doesn't resonate. Use the best tool for the job. The iPad is just another computer offered by Apple, the same as a MacBook Pro, an iMac, or a Mac Pro. Most people choose the product that works best for their needs. I wouldn't call anything I do simple or straightforward though, as that's an obvious slight by you and others on here, I am just not doing operational work like yourself. For some reason on this site, if you don't code or do other mundane data entry, the work you do is insignificant.

It’s not that it’s insignificant. I understand your use case. It just so happens that people that do code tend to interact with the OS at a deeper level which is something that an iPad will not suffice

Honestly I think it’s your wording that makes it sound a bit preachy, but I 100% agree that people should use the best tool for the job

 

[charlituna]

Why would anyone ever use a tablet when they can sit down at a 24 inch or 27 inch iMac? Why would anyone ever use a tablet (outside) when a modern laptop is only a few pounds and is significantly more capable?

I’m doing drawing work and a tablet is far more comfortable. I’m doing gaffer work and taking a laptop up to the top of a ladder rather than a tablet I can refer to and then tuck into the pocket of my cargos is a stupid move.

Clearly you don’t see the point to a tablet in your work flow so don’t use one. But don’t assume your work is everyone’s work.

 

[Baymowe335]

Current Apple has no direction. No leadership. NO VISION.

They iterate on products started or completed under Jobs (the Watch was definitely started while he was still CEO), sometimes not even once a year.

They are supposedly working on a car?

Maybe they'll become a TV studio?

$1 trillion in marketshare and they don't know what to do.

They have a $1T valuation, not market share.

Apple is 4 times the size as when Jobs was alive. I think they are doing great (shareholder).

Their vision is domination. How can you argue they aren't dominating? Look at the numbers.

$60B/year in PROFIT? LOL! That's 2X any company in the world.

Cook is doing a FANTASTIC job. Jobs LOVED and respected Cook. Jobs MADE HIM CEO!!

Cook was always the genius behind Apple. He was the highest paid, most equity awarded employee at Apple during all the Jobs years. Jobs called him a better negotiator than him. Cook is the PERFECT person for the job and he's shown it. He's created over $800B in shareholder value since Jobs died.

A few of Tim's contributions to Apple:

• Leading in mobile silicon
  
• Large screen iPhones - Something Jobs resisted, wrongly.
  
• Selling 3X as many iPhones as ever under Jobs
  
• AirPods
• Services becoming a $50B business growing at 30%
• $800B in shareholder value
• Apple Watch

 

[charlituna]

Current Apple has no direction. No leadership. NO VISION.

They iterate on products started or completed under Jobs (the Watch was definitely started while he was still CEO), sometimes not even once a year.

They are supposedly working on a car?

Maybe they'll become a TV studio?

$1 trillion in marketshare and they don't know what to do.

Translation: they aren’t doing what I want them to do. and even though I possibly have no education or experience in anything close to running a company like Apple or developing these kinds of producers I think I know better than them thus I am declaring them stupid and failures.

 

[citysnaps]

Yeah, let's talk about them. I've worked with photographers, designers and videographers/editors. They're migrating away from Macs. It's pretty clear from Apple's sales that they're not gaining new converts in those areas. In fact, the last place I worked (part of a major U.S. media company) was phasing the Macs out company-wide precisely because Apple doesn't seem committed to making the Mac a compelling platform anymore. Do you see evidence that says otherwise? I don't.

Just my similar anecdotal evidence that shows Macs, and particularly iMac Pros, being used in many creative professional environments.

 

[DVD9]

Apple hasn't updated the Mac Pro since 2013. It hasn't updated the Mac Mini since 2014 (read: 2012). Your comment is farcical to say the least in an age where computing speeds increase at an exponential rate.

The MAC is being held hostage. Mac's are a separate product with a separate audience of buyers. The iPhone and Apple Watch buyers are a different set. I've never owned any Apple device except a Mac. My interest in the rest of Apple's products is absolute zero.

 

[smulji]

They have a $1T valuation, not market share.

Apple is 4 times the size as when Jobs was alive. I think they are doing great (shareholder).

Their vision is domination. How can you argue they aren't dominating? Look at the numbers.

$60B/year in PROFIT? LOL! That's 2X any company in the world.

Cook is doing a FANTASTIC job. Jobs LOVED and respected Cook. Jobs MADE HIM CEO!!

Cook was always the genius behind Apple. He was the highest paid, most equity awarded employee at Apple during all the Jobs years. Jobs called him a better negotiator than him. Cook is the PERFECT person for the job and he's shown it. He's created over $800B in shareholder value since Jobs died.

A few of Tim's contributions to Apple:

• Leading in mobile silicon
  
• Large screen iPhones - Something Jobs resisted, wrongly.
  
• Selling 3X as many iPhones as ever under Jobs
  
• AirPods
• Services becoming a $50B business growing at 30%
• $800B in shareholder value
• Apple Watch

"Their vision is domination."

That's never been Apple's vision. Their vision has always been to make the best product in the world and making technology more personal.

 

[Baymowe335]

"Their vision is domination."

That's never been Apple's vision. Their vision has always been to make the best product in the world and making technology more personal.

They are doing both.

 

[PickUrPoison]

"Most Apple desktop customers" is a self-selecting group. Of course they prefer an iMac as that's the only real middle ground and that's where most Mac users are going to land. If not, they would be elsewhere. I don't really understand your point. The context of this discussion isn't what machine Mac users are choosing but rather why Apple isn't updating more frequently or at least within a reasonable time frame, and why they don't seem to be putting any real thought into the Mac platform anymore. I don't see it. And given that some products have sat for multiple years with barely any attention or minor spec bumps, I'm surprised anyone here is arguing otherwise.

My point is simple. You said “Apple's efforts in desktop computing have been utterly pathetic for almost half a decade” which is ridiculous because the iMac is in no way utterly pathetic. You may not like all-in-ones, but that’s not particularly relevant. The fact is it’s Apple’s only desktop platform, the mini having a relatively low performing 15/28W-class CPU and the Pro models using workstation-class Xeons.

re: your sentiment that the Mac platform is being ignored, beyond the regular iMac, iMac Pro is clear evidence they do care about it. It offers those pro users who migrated to iMac from Mac Pro (and who can benefit from more cores, RAM/memory bandwidth or workstation class graphics) a clear upgrade path.

Additionally, Apple already spoke about screwing up the Mac Pro, and contrary to your statement that “they don't seem to be putting any real thought into the Mac platform anymore”, they’re thinking about it a lot—you must have missed the update on the Mac Pro last April:

https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/

The mini was re-targeted at the low-end “switcher” and home users in 2014 with 15/28W dual-core CPUs, but the current rumors are that they’re pivoting back to higher-end users. Hopefully it finds a market or this could very well be the last update before it’s discontinued.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

If you have a slot free, and your computer doesn't have Thunderbolt 3 when it comes out, and you add a Thunderbolt 3 card into that empty slot: YOU HAVE FUTURE COMPATIBILITY.

Nice attempt at a "save"; but no.

It was the EXPANDABILITY that provides for the possibility of being Compatible with Future needs.

So, if that's the case; how else besides a "serialized slot" interface such as TB, do you propose to do that with a LAPTOP, an All-In-One (iMac), or a Compact Desktop like a Mac mini? And that's what some people just don't get: TB IS a "Slot"; just one where the signals march in and out in a line, rather than over multiple dedicated connector-pins.

But what you are saying that is, in your not-so-humble opinion, the ONLY way to provide "Future Compatibility" is to have an old-skool tower design, right? Nothing else will do.

While this was CERTAINLY true in 1988, 1998, and maybe even 2008, (earlier "slot that isn't a slot" technologies, such as CardBus, notwithstanding), it is getting less and less true since then, and here in late 2018, with USB-C/TB3 proven (and nicely backwards-compatible!) technologies, and TB4 on the horizon, the need for a box o' slots is, for all but the most demanding corner-cases, basically simply a dinosaur.

For example, a MacBook Pro with 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports can be "expanded" to up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports. HOW many Card-Slots would THAT take? And, like a traditional Peripheral Card topology, as new Technologies are created, there is a good chance that those can also be served over the same "Serialized Bus" interface. But, unlike a box o' slots, not only can each user decide exactly what THEIR I/O needs require, but that user can even have MULTIPLE I/O configurations, depending on what their I/O needs are AT THE MOMENT!

NOW do you see the problem with refusing to think of other form-factors and use-cases?

 

[Abazigal]

"Their vision is domination."

That's never been Apple's vision. Their vision has always been to make the best product in the world and making technology more personal.

Dominating the profits in the respective markets they choose to compete in, perhaps.

 

[autrefois]

LOL. Is your disdain of Apple so intense that you've convinced yourself that it works that way and Apple just now rented a major venue in New York City at the last moment to put on an event across the country presenting new hardware???? That it doesn't occur to you that such an event takes many weeks of preparation to prepare sets, advertising, support staff, etc., and that has to be carefully timed around new hardware and software being ready for primetime? LOL.

I was half-joking, jeez. I realize it takes time to develop hardware and organize a major event like this. Apple has occasionally been late with things (AirPower...) so it’s not outside the realm of possibility that they originally planned an event in early or mid October but changed plans (perhaps a month or two ago even) and decided to wait until the last minute in October to hold the event to be sure something would be ready before announcing it. The end of October for an October event does seem like doing things at the last minute, whether that’s true or not.

 

[ateslik]

no ports, no sale.

 

[TheRealAir]

Better stop using computers, then!

Have fun with Windows 10, Spyware Edition!

I will still use computers, just not Macs.
There are ways to run macOS on other computers as well.

 

[Yvan256]

The iPad is just another computer offered by Apple, the same as a MacBook Pro, an iMac, or a Mac Pro. Most people choose the product that works best for their needs. [...] For some reason on this site, if you don't code or do other mundane data entry, the work you do is insignificant.

I think the car vs pickup truck analogy fits perfectly here, because the iPad users (cars) keep telling the Mac users (pickup trucks) that iPads can replace Macs and Mac users keep saying that iPads cannot replace Macs.

When you think about it the same way as "white collar" jobs (iPad) vs "blue collar" jobs (Macs), it's easier to understand the divide between the two groups of users. An office worker doesn’t need a pickup truck to go to work and a construction worker cannot transport 4x8’ plywood sheets in a car.

Both devices have their place and each group needs to stop trying to convince the other group that their choice of device can replace the other group's choice.

One last thing: a Mac that runs on an ARM CPU doesn't mean it has to run iOS, just like the current Macs using intel x86 CPUs aren't limited to running Windows even though they can. CPUs and operating systems are not tied to each other, Apple had Mac OS X running on intel in their labs way before anyone outside Apple knew about their future transition to x86. And I would bet they currently have ARM Macs running macOS right now in a secret room somewhere on their new campus.

I think the first Macs to transition to ARM will probably be the rumoured low-cost MacBook Air replacement and the Mac mini because those are the two lowest-priced Macs and Intel's CPUs are the most expensive component of those Macs. It would make sense to start the ARM transition with these two Macs. It would also explain the long delay to update these two computers. It would also explain why the Mac mini "is still an important part of Apple's lineup", according to Tim Cook.

Maybe we'll get the MacBook mini and Mac mini running on ARM and a new Mac mini Pro with an intel CPU, because a clean and simple Mac line-up of the future would look like this:

• MacBook mini, Mac mini, iMac mini 21" = ARM (data entry, web programmers, small databases, people who prefer a computer, etc)
• MacBook Pro, iMac Pro 27", Mac Pro = intel (big databases, programmers, massive data crunching, CAD, people who need to run VMs, etc)