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Apple iPhone Backstory? Mac OS X Tie ins?

Thinking about the iPhone and batteries...

I was just thinking that clearly, Apple will offer cell phone charging via USB on the iPhone akin to iPods. Would this be the first cell phone on the market with computer charging of the phone?

And, do y'all think that the iPhone will have the iPod dock connector on it? How sweet will this be??? You know all of those alarm clock/stereo combo's that charge your iPod too? Well, I'll buy one in a heartbeat if it meant that my phone is charging overnight on the nightstand in a docked fashion!!! That is one less cord laying around in the bedroom.

Oh yeah - bring it Steve!!! :cool:
 
Squonk said:
I was just thinking that clearly, Apple will offer cell phone charging via USB on the iPhone akin to iPods. Would this be the first cell phone on the market with computer charging of the phone?

And, do y'all think that the iPhone will have the iPod dock connector on it? How sweet will this be??? You know all of those alarm clock/stereo combo's that charge your iPod too? Well, I'll buy one in a heartbeat if it meant that my phone is charging overnight on the nightstand in a docked fashion!!! That is one less cord laying around in the bedroom.

Oh yeah - bring it Steve!!! :cool:
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No there are plenty of other phones with USB charging. And not only that, but they use a standard mini-USB connector rather than a propietary iPod dock connector.

The prime example would be Blackberry phones. I think the HTC "Windows Media" phones on T-Mobile, Cingular, etc. also use a standard mini-USB (e.g. T-Mobile SDA and MDA, T-Mobile Dash, Cingular 8125, etc.)

I think the iPhone will definitely use the standard iPod dock connector, though. I think it will be a *full* member of the iPod family. I think that will be a huge advantage for the iPhone, actually. I expect 3rd party iPod accessories to work right off the bat, which means the iPhone will instantly have vastly more accessories than just about any phone (except maybe Treos).
 
BWhaler said:
Um. Did you actually read the link?

When this hits the major new cycles, remember this post.


(But I did enjoy the numerous repeating exclamation points and question markets.)
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You still make no logical sense. So Apple has a reported production issue. You think this is unique to Apple? Again, these things happen ALL the time, the visibility is just 10x when Apple is involved.

Furthermore, you still make no sense: The 15.4" and 17" MBPs have a hiccup, so now their ability to produce an iPhone is in question? Wouldn't the iPod experience be more relevant? How many issues have there been with the iPod? Sure, there have been issues with batteries and supposed scratch-proneness, but I still maintain that these issues are reported because of some "Apple" effect. Nobody cares if SanDisk or Samsung has some issues with their MP3 players. The only company that has the same scrutiny as Apple is Microsoft, and look at how their Zune launch went :rolleyes:

When Apple sells 10 million iPhones in 2007 with industry-leading build quality, remember this post. :rolleyes:

(but yes I do quite enjoy multiple exclamation points and question marks, not to mention all caps)
 
lmalave said:
No there are plenty of other phones with USB charging. And not only that, but they use a standard mini-USB connector rather than a propietary iPod dock connector.

I think the iPhone will definitely use the standard iPod dock connector, though. I think it will be a *full* member of the iPod family. I think that will be a huge advantage for the iPhone, actually. I expect 3rd party iPod accessories to work right off the bat, which means the iPhone will instantly have vastly more accessories than just about any phone (except maybe Treos).
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emotion said:
I charge my ancient T610 using usb. Most phones can do it.
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I don't know why I never thought of usb charging before today... :confused:

Emotion, what do you use for your T610? I have a T637. Thanks! :)
 
BWhaler said:
Clever.

http://crunchgear.com/page/2/

Apparently Apple is stopping production on the matte MBP portable line until issues are resolved.

Small is hard. Apple isn't good at it. That my point, and the reason why I am worried that their phones will suffer from the same problems...
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You really should use permalinks.
http://crunchgear.com/2006/12/06/rumor-problems-with-non-glossy-macbook-pro-display/

So. Apple isn't good at small. Hmm. That's a new argument. Ok, so let's just ditch all the discussion so far. Don't address my points, just make a general statement to cover it all up. Good idea.

Okay. Apple isn't good at small.

Yeah, that Nano is friggin huge and has tons of problems. Same with the Shuffle. And when I show people my iMac and say "Yup, that's the whole compter." They simply respond, "Wow that's huge!"

Seriously, your argument that "small is hard" is reasonable, but when you follow it with "Apple isn't good at it" ... it just makes you look like a douche.

Apple has a great track record with "small." The iPods get progressively smaller. Same with the iMac. The Cube. The Mac Mini.

It seems that the only major problem Apple has had lately with "small" is their notebook computers.

I still don't follow your "notebooks are like cellphones" logic. OK, they're both small, but the comparison ends there. It's like saying the iTV will be riddled with problems because it will be aluminum like the MBPs.

As for the blog post you referenced... why is that bad again? Apple is halting shipments of MBPs because they have a problem with the matte screens. Darn that Apple and their rapant quality control, stopping faulty machines from shipping! Personally I'd rather them ship the faulty machines. :rolleyes: ... oh, and you do know that the problems with matte screens is a rumor, right? If you go to the Gizmodo post, is says "MacBook Pros Temporarily Halted by Apple?" NOT "MacBook Pros Temporarily Halted by Apple" Big difference.
 
bfineman said:
rtharper: If we start looking "outside the US" there are myriad mobile technologies that us US customers only dream of. Since I live in the US, for my purposes, that's what I'm talking about. I agree that it would be possible to see an unlocked iPhone that you can activate on the GSM network of your choice. What sucks is that Verizon still has the superior national coverage area, which is why I still use it even though I despise them. Cingular's network is quickly catching up though, so if it came down to it, I'd be happy to jump ship for an iPhone. Perhaps this would give Verizon the kick in the pants that it needs to revise its manipulative certification policies.
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As I recall, your original point is that unlocked phones were unrealistic; my point is that they are not. So far you have cited on carrier about this issue, who is currently in the middle of litigation about their cell-phone crippling policies. I am fairly sure an unlocked CDMA phone could manage to go a long way in the US eventually, if not now. As for GSM, there is still plenty of GSM coverage in the US, with a non-trivial customer base. An unlocked GSM phone would definitely be profitable for Apple.
 
Goldfinger said:
I for one would not touch a phone with a ten foot pole if it had less than 200h of stand by time. Running out of battery is the most annoying thing ever. I never lug around my charger everywhere I go. It almost defies the point of having a portable phone. I love to go away for 5 days without needing a charge.
I'll bet you that if this iPhone has a crappy battery nobody will buy it. Except for people who don't care about having a crappy battery and Apple fan boys who'll buy it anyway.

Plus, a battery only has x-number of cycles untill it dies. And knowing Apple it will probable have a fixed battery like the iPod. So being able to do as long as possible on a single charge is a plus.
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The point is, that if you have Wi-Fi/Wi-Max, you can turn it off to save battery life. The same as you could just not listen to music to save battery life. A phone could still carry these technologies and have around 200hr stand-by time.

Whatever happens with the fabled iPhone, I am pretty sure it will be awesome. Apple is known for looking at the market and saying "Why does it have to be this way, how can it be better?" and then they deliver something exciting. They did it with the iPod, they did it with iLife, and I am pretty sure they will do it with the iPhone!
 
Bfineman is correct: VZW does have superior coverage but their business model coupled with their equipment policies start a BURNING hatred for Verizon in myself. I simply cannot stand how VZW cripples all of its equipment due to brew contracts, ie OBEX profiles being disabled, no java, etc... I'm about to switch to Cingular or T.Mobile because they let their customers do what they want with their own equipment - that is PURCHASED AND OWNED by their customers. It burns me up - and with VZW, being a CDMA provider, I have no option of buying an unlocked phone with tons of features overseas.
 
jmbear said:
The point is, that if you have Wi-Fi/Wi-Max, you can turn it off to save battery life. The same as you could just not listen to music to save battery life. A phone could still carry these technologies and have around 200hr stand-by time.

Whatever happens with the fabled iPhone, I am pretty sure it will be awesome. Apple is known for looking at the market and saying "Why does it have to be this way, how can it be better?" and then they deliver something exciting. They did it with the iPod, they did it with iLife, and I am pretty sure they will do it with the iPhone!
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I never said that anything about wifi sucking battery. And of course you could turn it off. I'm just afraid that Apple would release a phone that has crappy battery life just working on GSM. They're capable of doing that.

Also I highly doubt that it would even have wifi. While cool it's an added cost that doesn't make sense today since there are only very few free wifi/wimax networks in the world. A feature that only 1% of the users would use isn't a good idea. That said, I wouldn't mind if they put it in as long as it doens't influence the price point of the phone too much.
 
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