Apple is as bad at bloatware as Android is!!

Agreed that Apple is becoming increasingly worse with this, but it isn't at the level most Android phones are

 

Agreed, some of the default apps could be made into after-market downloads. When you have the time, perhaps you'd like to send Apple some feedback. There is power in numbers

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

 

furthermore, podcasts, iBooks, etc used to be downloaded... not installed....

 

Sorry, but you cannot possibly compare that to amount of carrier bloatware that is preinstalled on an Android phone.

 

I realize people use "etc" a lot when they run out of things to list.

Good thing Apple allows you to customize your homescreen and you can put unused apps in a folder.

 

Newsstand, voice memos, stocks, compass, tips etc..

 

Those apps have always came with the iPhone. The post I quoted was talking about apps that were once downloadable

 

I don't know about the latest Android phones, but in the past when say I had an HTC, I had to root and delete bloatware just to stop it from constantly running in the background and sucking down battery. That's not a description of Apple bloatware.

 

I agree. Everyone has their definition of bloat ware, the macrumors definition seems to be anything I don't want on my phone. Maybe a few apps should be deleteable, but for what ever reason Apple does not allow it.

 

At least the Apple bloat doesn't by default (that I'm aware of) drain your battery and update processes constantly in the background.

 

fixed easily - just dont buy a phone from a carrier with bloatware.

 

I think "easily" is rather far from easy there for many given that people don't always have the ability or the desire to flip carriers or get phones from other carriers (in particular just because of something like that).

 

Does anyone know whether the Apple Watch app is self-contained or whether it is just a façade for many components that are imbedded into the system already? I assume that the Watch OS goes much deeper into iOS than just that single app the end user sees. This means that the Apple Watch app could be just a few MB in size when all it does is to project system components.

However, that doesn’t absolve them from offering a toggle. They used to do this with the Nike+ app in system preferences, which you could enable or disable.

 

Here's my total "crap" folder
maps, weather, videos, reminders, stocks, ibooks, newsstand, health, apple watch, facetime, podcasts, game center, compass, tips, and voice memos.

Oh how I'd love to delete them all.

 

iPhone is not bad at all when it comes to bloatware. I noticed Galaxies now come with Uber app, and it is not possible to completely delete it....

 

I would have to say thats its a bit of a stretch to say "Apple is as bad at bloatware as Android is!!". Most android apps that come with the phone can only be frozen not deleted big difference especially when you are looking to regain precious space. Deleting bloatware or apps that come with the device doesn't generally regain space because most devices have a system partition (where bloatware is installed) so even if you did delete the app you wouldn't gain any additional user space. You would need to resize the system and user partitions.

 

And yet they don't add the useful ones to the iPad (voice memos, weather or a damn calculator).

But totally agree that Podcasts, Tips (are you kidding me?), Health, Game Centre, Compass and even the Contacts app are bloatware.

 

Go buy something else then.

 

Because that's an answer to something not so great happening to a device and ecosystem that someone otherwise likes and wants to use?

 

what if its an old(er) purchase but those apps just come with updates you have to install?

 

And, I use half of them. Am sure Apple tries to strike a balance. It took me about a minute to put the unwanted ones in a folder. And, I think I may have pulled one or two back out.

I have about 60 apps on my iphone, a lot I put there after purchase.

My S4 had MANY more than that. It also ran slower and needed rebooted more often.

I think what came with the iphone is appropriate. Manufacturers don't want you being able to just delete any app. Some, like in Android may be tied to System and have other apps they work with. I think you can only hide Android apps unless you Root. Not sure if that System tie-in applies to any Apple apps.

I find my 6+ lighter and faster than my previous Androids. The Nexus line would be the exception. Not familiar with some of the newer lines, like OPPO.

 

While agree that we don't need more bloat ware, apple is not as bad as android due to the fact that the carriers add there bloat ware on top of androids. At least apple doesn't allow the carriers to add it to iPhones.