Apple is as bad at bloatware as Android is!!

[I7guy]

The main difference there is that you chose to install those apps, and you could choose to uninstall them as well.

There are millions of apps in the store that can be chosen, Apple has "stickied" a number of them, they feel are relevant to the Eco-system.

 

[cynics]

In my opinion, there is no bloat on IOS 8.3, only one or two apps I wonder what the included purpose it. All apps, IMO, relate to something related to the ecosystem, even if you think it's a money grab, there are alternatives.

There are two apps I haven't used, one is because I don't have an apple watch yet, and the other is because I don't track my portfolios on my iPhone.

It's not that they get a pass, it appears what they are attempting to is have a baseline of apps and being Apple that baseline is not controllable. But I consider all the apps to be useful, not hogging running system resources and related to the Apple ecosystem. That is not the definition of bloatware, which has been morphed into any program or application I want to delete. As we know on the iphone, that is not happening.

Its all on how you look at it.

If I buy a smartphone, a Verizon data manager app could seem like less of bloatware then an app dealing with a watch. Consider the percentage of smartphone users that will be using data versus smartphone owners that will be buying a smart watch to compliment their smartphone.

Thats kind of an extreme example considering most of the carrier bloat is useless junk but it also goes to show how thats subjective. Newsstand, Apple Watch, etc is junk to me, maybe not you. Same applies with carrier bloat.

I just feel you should be given the option to download it like some of the other Apple apps exclusive to those devices. Or maybe even if it came with iOS and then you could delete them to redownload them later if you needed/wanted them. If nothing else hide them like with Android. Even the AppleTV can do that and it can barely do anything!

 

[MacNerd1239]

The main difference there is that you chose to install those apps, and you could choose to uninstall them as well.

I think I've used Windows so long that annoying little stuff like this doesn't bother me anymore.