well, i totally agree, but apple seems to be going the way of its competitors lately.
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Apple is as bad at bloatware as Android is!!
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well, i totally agree, but apple seems to be going the way of its competitors lately.
You're right. At least with majority of Android manufacturers, like Samsung, LG, HTC, Motorola, they give you the option to uninstall 99% of apps. Between the Apple Watch app, Newstand, Podcasts, Tips... Getting sick and tired of not being able to get rid of, or at least hide, the apps from the springboard.
Not like it matters. We bitch and moan, but we'll keep buying Apple stuff. Me being one of them.
You get the option to uninstall 99% of apps with those manufacturers? Since when?
When did they ever allow deleting apps? The only real complaint I see is podcasts, not sure why they made it part of the install.
Things I don't use I ignore and move to the last page.
Not sure if he meant uninstall or disable? You can disable almost any app (not including those required for the OS to function), and delete it from your homescreen, this way you never see or activate the app. This is something Apple has never let you do.
And now that there are nearly 30 Apple apps that come preinstalled and you can't delete (some you need like the phone, app store and so on, many you don't...) and it is those apps that you 'must' keep on your homescreen, whether that is in a folder or by itself AND that is wasted storage space on your phone.
And it sounds like many people in this thread are from the US and confuse carrier bloat with manufacturer bloat (what the iPhone has). Not all Android phones come with carrier bloat. None of mine have carrier garbage.
Seems like most come with carrier bloat, and even though it's technically different than manufacturer bloat, it's still bloat, and in that sense pretty much no better (if not worse) in most of those cases.
Most Android phones in the US do come with carrier bloat. But you are not restricted to carrier phones. Moto X/G/E are able to be bought without carrier branding or bloat, Google Edition phones had no carrier bloat and of course Nexus Phones come with no bloat (except for the Nexus 6 bought through ATT apparently? Don't know why I remember reading that?)
Strange. The definition of bloatware has changed significantly. I remember when a computer came with pre-installed bloat ware like The Encyclopedia Brittanica, AOL, Weezer music videos, etc. Then phones started it with Verizon and Sprint apps, ATT had their own application store, and loaded you up with nav apps, and other crap.
Now, core applications from the OEM are considered bloatware? Wow.
Now, core applications from the OEM are considered bloatware? Wow.
Strange. The definition of bloatware has changed significantly. I remember when a computer came with pre-installed bloat ware like The Encyclopedia Brittanica, AOL, Weezer music videos, etc. Then phones started it with Verizon and Sprint apps, ATT had their own application store, and loaded you up with nav apps, and other crap.
Now, core applications from the OEM are considered bloatware? Wow.
According to the definition yes
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So how much space does this so-called bloatware take up? I just went to manage storage on my iPhone 6 and the only Apple apps showing up that are taking a significant amount of space are the iWork apps, which I believe can be removed. Also iBooks but that's only because I actually use it. I don't see the Watch app, stocks, newsstand, tips or Game Center listed. So in my case this "bloatware" takes up very little space. I stick these apps in a folder and forget about them.
Strange. The definition of bloatware has changed significantly. I remember when a computer came with pre-installed bloat ware like The Encyclopedia Brittanica, AOL, Weezer music videos, etc. Then phones started it with Verizon and Sprint apps, ATT had their own application store, and loaded you up with nav apps, and other crap.
Now, core applications from the OEM are considered bloatware? Wow.
No the definition hasn't really changed. People are throwing around the term for any app they don't like or don't find useful. By some the phone dialer is bloat ware. That you can't delete or downgrade are just Apple things you gotta love.
it used to bother me but doesnt anymore. i dont use ibooks, podcasts or most of the other apps like it. but i just throw them into a folder and forget about them. same thing i did when i turned off my battery meter.
Probably something with "other" space or something like that. iOS 8 might take a bit more space than previous versions, but not on a GB scale.
If you go by that definition, then the contacts app, notes, reminders, calendar, etc, all bloatware?
Core apps aren't bloatware. iWork apps, garageband, iMovie, that's bloatware. Core applications like Notes, Reminders, etc? Nope.
It depends which Android version on which phone.
I still can't quite believe there are two browsers on the Galaxy S6, and two app stores.
Not really. That is not the classic definition. One app I would consider to be extraneous is podcasts. The others have some function, even if the individual finds them not useful.
But we can argue about the definition of BW until the cows come home; Apple still won't let you delete them.
That's the most arbitrary definition ever though!
The very definition was already linked to just a few posts ago. If you don't agree with it or don't like it, that's certainly fine, but it doesn't change what it is.
Yikes, I'd hate to see how you would have reacted to the crap manufacturers were loading on PCs 20 years ago...