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You’re conflating an ecosystem with the hardware on a phone. The consumer isn’t choosing the hardware, they are choosing the _platform_ they are supporting, which is either iOS or android. Do you really think the Camera is going to sway the consumer to merge over to android just because it takes better photos in low light? I doubt it. Again, I think you’re overhyping this.



Apple only hired John Giannandrea to revamp Siri in the artificial intelligence sector.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/03/apple-hires-google-ai-chief/amp/

He’s been hired to run And revamp Apples Ai and machine learning strategy
 
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Isn’t the whole point of a camera to “capture a real life shot” ? If it’s dark and I take a photo, the photo should look like what my eyes are seeing.... darkness, is this not how it’s always been? I love what Google have done but I don’t want my night time pics to look like I took them in the day.

Adam.
 
Isn’t the whole point of a camera to “capture a real life shot” ? If it’s dark and I take a photo, the photo should look like what my eyes are seeing.... darkness, is this not how it’s always been? I love what Google have done but I don’t want my night time pics to look like I took them in the day.

Adam.

This.
 
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Nothing wrong with Pixel 3 and it's camera. It's a good camera. This night shot thing is cool and interesting. Sure other apps been doing stuff like this for a long time. It's nothing really new here. I don't see this as a "iPhone is a year behind" feature. Pixel lost a lot of it camera steam once Apple added in Smart HDR. Sure Apple one day will ad in night shot to the default app until then we have apps that can do this when we really need it (probably very rarely less be honest). As far this year iPhones vs Pixel 3 the iphone kills pixel in video, sound recording, and in photos its really a toss up what one is better and that come down to personal choice on how the HDR on both are working. Over all iPhone has the better over all package. So no Apple isn't embarrassing behind, in some ways they are way ahead...
 
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Nothing wrong with Pixel 3 and it's camera. It's a good camera. This night shot thing is cool and interesting. Sure other apps been doing stuff like this for a long time. It's nothing really new here. I don't see this as a "iPhone is a year behind" feature. Pixel lost a lot of it camera steam once Apple added in Smart HDR. Sure Apple one day will ad in night shot to the default app until then we have apps that can do this when we really need it (probably very rarely less be honest). As far this year iPhones vs Pixel 3 the iphone kills pixel in video, sound recording, and in photos its really a toss up what one is better and that come down to personal choice on how the HDR on both are working. Over all iPhone has the better over all package. So no Apple isn't embarrassing behind, in some ways they are way ahead...

Yup when it comes down to it how the photos come out is personal choice. To me the iphones photos come out fantastic for me. Like the other poster said I wouldn’t want my nightshots looking like daytime photos.
 
Check out this camera comparison video between the Pixel 3 v.s the iPhone Xs.

The Pixel 3 may have an amazing night mode and dynamic range but falls short on some camera features compared to the iPhone Xs-

- No HEIF support yet for space saving photos
- Low resolution using the "Top shot feature," 3 megapixels for recommended frames and 1 mp for the others.
- No 4k 60 fps video capture
- No 1080p 240 fps capture
- No built-in time-lapse mode in the stock camera
- Worse video sound recording quality
- Lower resolution panorama capture
- The super res zoom feature improves on digital zoom but can't match a dedicated tele lens for sharpness.

When it comes to pure photography, both the iPhone and Pixel 3 offer excellent performance and quality. It comes subjective to what photo camera you favor.

When comparing video features, it is no question that the iPhone wins. It has the higher frame rate captures, higher resolution slow motion and better sound recording quality.

I feel that the iPhone is the more balanced when it comes to offering both great photo and video capture. Google seemed so focused on the photo capabilities of the Pixel 3 that they forgot to improve its video features. They barely mentioned any video enhancements during their keynote.
Watching this Video the iPhone pics look better to me.
 
Far from being ahead recently I don't think Apple have ever had the best smartphone cameras though? They've kinda just muddled along with 'solid' camera performance producing 'good' photos (in well lit conditions) - consistency of images and ease of use are largely Apple's area of excellence in the photography department.

Remember they have only just with the XS/Max and XR introduced larger than 1/3" sensors and stereo sound recording in video! Most competitors have been using 1/2.5" sensors or better since at least 2012.
 
I'm interested to know more. I have used Android and Windows Phones since the iPhone 5. I recently bought an iPhone XS and was shocked at how heavy the phone is and bad iOS is - it seems just the same static grid of icons it was back in my iPhone 4 days with a few extra features bolted on. I spent some time setting it up to try and replicate the usability I was used to on Android but was thwarted every step of the way. I soon realised I'd have to do everything Apple's way or no way.

I took the iPhone back for a refund.

I accept that the A12 SoC is faster than the Snapdragon 845 in the Pixel 3 but, as with cars, top speed is not always a useful measure of a good car. 'Blows Android away' intrigues me. Having used a range of Samsung and Nexus phones, the Pixel 1 and 2, the OnePlus, various top-end Lumia phones and various iPhones I could only conclude it's a matter of preference and if your preferred OS doesn't run on your preferred hardware you're in a no-win situation.

You mention integration. With what? I have a Mac and can run Messages and WhatsApp on my desktop. Chromecast works beautifully. I'm not sure what further integration I'm missing with Android?

Which Android phones have you owned to come to your conclusion?
Android phones cant communicate woith my Apple Watch, Airpods (as well as they do on iOS), allow me to use a remote to my Apple TV (especially through my watch), and feel completely connected while I work on my Mac. WhatsApp is a nice replacement in Europe, but nobody I know or talk to uses it here in the states so that's not adequate for my uses.

That said, I use an S9 for work and it's perfectly fine for E-Mail, but I dont like all the widgets and noise on the home screen, when I'd rather just have a list of my apps, which are what I use my phone for anyway.
 
Each iPhone that I have owned has taken great pictures. If I want to take a picture at night, I'll bring out my Fuji mirrorless camera and tripod.
 
This shows Apple wants you to partake in the App Store. When I first saw these shots I was impressed and now I'm realizing you can have this if you wanted for any version of your phone, it's not so "cool" anymore.

Yea, there have always been a good amount of photography apps in iOS to do stuff like this. I doubt it is at the same level as the Pixel, but I don't think it shows that Apple is somehow "embarrassingly behind Google" when it comes to photography.
 
lol "reviews". i love how you can state apple can do the same things yet can't prove a damn thing. typical

There ya go, magic. App is NightCap Pro. Google is finally catching up to an app from 2013. It's a parlor trick, nothing amazing.

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There ya go, magic. App is NightCap Pro. Google is finally catching up to an app from 2013. It's a parlor trick, nothing amazing.

NightCap-Pro-5-iPhone-5-B.png

have you even used the app??

you have to put the iphone on a tripod to even get these resuls, using long exposure...
 
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lol this is so ignorant i dont know whether to laugh or feel bad for you. have you even used the app??

you have to put the iphone on a tripod to even get these resuls, using long exposure...

so typical. apple fan boys who have never even used apps but saying they know how it works.

You don't have to put the iPhone in a tripod to use. You can do the same thing using an app, just like I said. Nothing revolutionary here.
 
You don't have to put the iPhone in a tripod to use. You can do the same thing using an app, just like I said. Nothing revolutionary here.

yes you must use a tripod and use long exposure. even the freaking website says so lol. in the first first paragraph.... c'mon man.

https://www.nightcapcamera.com/blog/

oh even the reviews on the app store says you gotta use a tripod. seems like you dont know how the app works at all? :D

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nightcap-camera/id754105884?mt=8
 
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yes you must use a tripod and use long exposure. even the freaking website says so lol. in the first first paragraph.... c'mon man.

https://www.nightcapcamera.com/blog/

Those are suggestions for taking good photos, not any sort of requirement. What’s funny is someone coming to an Apple fan site to try and gloat about a feature that’s existed in iOS for years. It’s really not that big of a deal, but if you get off having this new feature over iPhone users, have at it. I don’t personally care either way, just wanted to point out that it’s nothing new. Plenty of apps do it already.
 
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Those are suggestions for taking good photos, not any sort of requirement. What’s funny is someone coming to an Apple fan site to try and gloat about a feature that’s existed in iOS for years. It’s really not that big of a deal, but if you get off having this new feature over iPhone users, have at it. I don’t personally care either way, just wanted to point out that it’s nothing new. Plenty of apps do it already.

how do you hold perfectly still for long periods without using a tripod? hmmm

btw google doesnt require you to hold it still, at all....
 
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Android phones cant communicate woith my Apple Watch, Airpods (as well as they do on iOS), allow me to use a remote to my Apple TV (especially through my watch), and feel completely connected while I work on my Mac. WhatsApp is a nice replacement in Europe, but nobody I know or talk to uses it here in the states so that's not adequate for my uses.

That said, I use an S9 for work and it's perfectly fine for E-Mail, but I dont like all the widgets and noise on the home screen, when I'd rather just have a list of my apps, which are what I use my phone for anyway.
You seem pretty entrenched in the Apple ecosystem. I try not to do that on any platform. Whoever it is they try and reel you in so you can't leave.

It is interesting here in the UK that even my friends who have iPhones also use WhatsApp. Some even switch off iMessage. Most of us will send a text using an SMS app but if we want to send a picture, or video we switch to WhatsApp. Many use WhatsApp for everything.

To be honest, when I had the iPhone XS I turned off continuity. I didn't want phone things coming through on my computer. You know if you use Windows and use the Microsoft Launcher on Android you get some good integration.

I like to stream music in FLAC from my NAS to my hifi system and I can easily do that using my phone and Chromecast Audio - when I tried AirPlay the quality was nowhere near as good.

The beauty of Android is that you can have your homescreen look however you want it. If you don't like widgets, don't use them. For me I like to switch my phone on and see my agenda for the next few days and my Alexa shopping list. I couldn't get either to appear correctly in the iOS widget screen. The calendar widget looked a mess and the Alexa shopping list widget (Todoist) gave me no option to show a particular list - just the todo list. I also tried a couple of other list apps which use the Amazon Echo List API, but had the same problem with them. I started to think 'maybe on an iPhone I'll have to get used to opening the app and navigating to my shopping list' but then realised I'd be going backwards in terms of the functionality I'm used to and thought 'hell no!'. When I've talked to other iOS users to find out what they do I found out that they don't, basically. I know of no other iPhone user who does some of the things I do and take for granted on my phone. In fact I have approached technically competent friends with iPhones and asked them to sell me iOS - and they always refuse.

At the end of the day it's all about choice and that's what I really don't like about iOS. You have very little. Others prefer to use something which requires little effort to set up and are happy with the Apple paradigm. Horses for courses.
 
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