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My point exactly. Profits are increasing every year which for shareholders is great, but for the end users who are having to fork out more and more to get the same products year on year are getting shafted.
And if Apple keeps shafting the users they are going to have a revolt. Then see what happens to their profits.
 
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Apple is now an iPhone company. They are riding on Steve's legacy with the iPhone, the main reason for this feat and they don't give a damn about any non iOS device.
Gotta be causing some people cognitive dissonance that apple hit $1T. The company hasn't been Steve's legacy since the iphone 6. Timmy took Apple in an extremely profitable new direction. Those who don't care for the new apple, should be happy there is competition.
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And if Apple keeps shafting the users they are going to have a revolt. Then see what happens to their profits.
This has been the tired meme for years. I'm waiting for Apple to implode based on comments on these forums.
 
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Idk. To all the FinTwitter accounts I follow it was pretty big news today to them too
They'll forget about it tomorrow. There's no significance to the number, and it doesn't really affect how money moves around. It's like the time GOOG hit $1000 per share.
 
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How do you think they got here? Not by focusing on Macs. Don’t hold your breath.

They never would have have got to this position if it wasn't for the Mac? The only reason Apple was able to succeed was by creating a solid product that people loved which was the Mac. That allowed them to then create the iPod, build to the iPhone then ultimately the iPad, watch and now home pod.

Apple has turned their back on that customer base that allowed them to create all of these amazing products. I understand that Apple has other areas that are more profitable. However when Steve was alive he always ensured that Mac got the attention it deserved even after the success of the iPhone. Tim Cook only cares about the investors and his back pocket and it shows. Steve never cared about the money, he was obsessed with creating the next amazing product.
 
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They never would have have got to this position if it wasn't for the Mac? The only reason Apple was able to succeed was by creating a solid product that people loved which was the Mac. That allowed them to then create the iPod, build to the iPhone then ultimately the iPad, watch and now home pod.

Apple has turned their back on that customer base that allowed them to create all of these amazing products. I understand that Apple has other areas that are more profitable. However when Steve was alive he always ensured that Mac got the attention it deserved even after the success of the iPhone. Tim Cook only cares about the investors and his back pocket and it shows. Steve never cared about the money, he was obsessed with creating the next amazing product.


Lol, your statement is pure garbage. The Mac is doing fine. Millions love their Macs. They have the highest satisfaction rates of any computer, and lowest total cost of ownership. Just because you personally may not like some of the features, that has no bearing on the millions they sell
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Google provides services across the world including underdeveloped countries.

Amazon also provides services across the world including underdeveloped countries.

Apple??? They can't provides products and/or services to lesser countries because they'd charge too much for it

I'm just pointing out the irony behind this. Apple touts how great it's for the environment and how much it helps the world, but it's all selective marketing. I don't think they have responsibilities to help, but it's humorous that they got here by maximizing their profits and pipelines while offering substantially less.


Apple is carbon neutral and 100 percent clean energy versus Google and amazon who aren’t. Apple doesn’t monetize and treat the people of the world as their product. Google is an advertising company, nothing else
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This is fundamentally wrong if you're looking for performance per dollar.

THis doesn't mean that if your workflow is MacOS based, they're not the best you can get, but currently, if your business is dependant on pure computational power, there's nothing in the Apple lineup I can recommend. If your business requires beating the competition's time to production and time to delivery, I cannot recommend Apple products currently.

an Example:
A large engineering firm that I have consulted with was losing out on bids against their competition. Their time to delivery was too long. Suddenly, despite them using the newest apple computers, their competitors were all using standard PC's. The workers were happy, but their production was 10-40% slower and longer than their competition. Apple could offer no upgrades to individual machines, nor could they offer machiens that were comparable in performance.

The machines looked great. Their users liked MacOS. But they were no longer winning contracts due to their longer turn around times than their competition.

Why were their competition producing faster? Because they were able to update more frequently, the computers and components than Apple has managed to deliver in the last 5 or so years. in Addition the Apple computers suffered from thermal throttling further reducing overall capabilities.

Would I recommend apple computers? Depends. the Macbook is a decent (if expensive) day to day consumer machine. The MacBook Pro's are great ultrabooks. But Apple has NOT kept up in the highest of high end. their product line has become more consumer focused, which is OK for consumers, But not those who need to eek out every single minute cycle of their computer.

A desktop computer should NEVER thermal throttle. Designing a computer that is so small / thin that tthermal throttling occurs in the desktop, is a design failure.

you and I might not notice this sort of behaviour in day to day usage, or even with Apple specific software. But Apple is NOT the best investment for computational power today.


That is the largest pile of garbage I’ve seen. I’ve had Dell come out and brief us on workflow/cost/performance etc and could not compete with the longetivity/security/lower IT help desk needs that Apple has. It wasn’t even close. IBM ran similar studies. TCO for Apple products is much lower than ANY windows environment
 
Gotta be causing some people cognitive dissonance that apple hit $1T. The company hasn't been Steve's legacy since the iphone 6. Timmy took Apple in an extremely profitable new direction. Those who don't care for the new apple, should be happy there is competition.
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This has been the tired meme for years. I'm waiting for Apple to implode based on comments on these forums.
iPhone 6 would not be here if it wasn't for Steve. This 1T is all thanks to Job.
 
Many of those people are switching to iPhone and iPad, not Windows and Android. And that's exactly what Apple wants.
Those people aren't doing real high workload jobs on their iDevices.
They're not going to render a 3D CGI project on an iPhone. They're not going to create a high DPI graphic for a printing job on an iPad.
They're either just casual Apple tech users using the gee-gaws to text their friends and make selfies, or they're using those devices as side gadgets to compliment their desktops where the real work is done. We've been starved for real high power workstations for years now (almost a decade!) and Apple has failed to deliver year after year.

I just really wish they'd just hang it up on the desktop hardware department (since they're not using ti anyways), just sell the OS and let 3rd party companies make clones again like in the 90's. That would open Apple up to a much larger customer base globally wen everyone could load Mac OS X on their custom desktop and see how organic the workflow on it can be.

That's if Apple gave a tinker-cuss about the desktop users anymore.
 
Why? It would make little difference on total sales, but cost them an extra few dollars on every sold phone. Decisions like this hurt profits. Apple is the best example of why Capitalism is a superior economic system. The wealth they have accrued is simply amazing.

The sad ignorance of your comment is why Apple act the way they do. Something as simple as a fast charger which is standard in any modern day high-end phone. People like you who don't hold Apple accountable when their ripping you off, is why they continue to do so. So fast to run and say Apple has to make a profit, for one Apple has hell of money already. Second its not your job as a consumer or I think even a shareholder. To advocate profits over making a product that best it can be. Which many think Apple is doing with a lot of their decisions and products. Cause in the long term you will lose your base, all the money in the world and no one to sell your product to. Eventually you'll start bleeding money to fix the problem.
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Well it's true. Little decisions like including a more expensive charger only hurt profits. If Apple was having trouble selling phones and needed to include more accessories or features to sell them like some of the smaller manufacturers do then you'd have a good point. Since Apple doesn't need to do that they should be maximizing profit per unit. Offer a solid device and the Apple brand name will sell it no matter what.

I bet you'd still buy an iPhone whether it comes with a fast charger or not? Right? Millions of other people will do the same. I bought a Samsung phone and it came with all kinds of accessories like nice AKG headphones and a fast charger, but Samsung has to offer those little perks to sell their product. Apple doesn't. No company just gives you something "free" out of the goodness of their heart. If you're getting it free it's because they need to make it sell better.

Do you own Apple stocks or something otherwise you sound really stupid. Making that argument as a consumer makes no sense. It's not your job to make Apples point, it's your job to demand the best product they can make, and claim they make, and nothing less.
 
And if Apple keeps shafting the users they are going to have a revolt. Then see what happens to their profits.
Thats the kind of push back Apple lacks, it seems like the consumers who buy their products, aren't vocal enough when they fxck up. You'll find plenty of people here defending them while at the same time getting screwed in the ass.
 
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I haven’t been this excited since my local supermarket chain announced record profits despite my grocery bill rising 15% in two years. I may be paying more for the same products but it’s heart warming to think less people are employed due to automation and their executives have had a healthy pay rise.

It’s strange what obsession and a cult following will do to consumers who no longer just buy and enjoy the product but take it on as some kind of allegiance. I’m chuffed for Apple, I really am. I wouldn’t mind them giving us a decent up to date iPhone around the £700 mark though.
 
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To everyone getting excited that Apple is a trillion dollar company now, remember the employees working multiple jobs, the coworkers skipping meals, the people skimping on healthcare because they can’t afford the “good coverage”, and the nets under the foxconn windows. But cool. Really happy for the shareholders.
Salty.
 
Based on what metric? All the FANG stocks have higher PEs than Apple. Microsoft dies too. Are they all overvalued too it just Apple?
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It’s news and Mac Rumors is reporting on it. I don’t see them celebrating it.

Yea they are over valued, but Apple is the only trillion dollar one right? If Apple makes and sells devices that work then it can have its value, but instead IMO it’s just got steadily worst on that front over the last few years it’s not worth anything like it. And it had a decline in sales, a big one over its computers, again way over valued.
 
i can only imagine the mahoosive bonuses the senior execs, vp and cook will receive, and the smugness of the september keynote will be palpable - meanwhile in amazon bezos is ripping his team to shreds!lol
The same team that has made bezos the richest man in the world? Why would he do rhat?
 
So does this mean they’ll start making their products slightly more... affordable... especially accessories and upgrades which are ludicrously overpriced.

Oh, and maybe invest in developing a decent Mac line up!!!
 
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