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Apple Issues Statement Over Day 1 'Maps' Glitches, Maps Team Reportedly Under Lockdown to Fix Issues
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I'm actually impressed with this technology and it could work out great - but it needs to tie in better with the rest and they need to start flying and gather the data soon. If this get's updated rather quickly I could see it as a good choice instead of satellite imagery (which is really poor in maps) - but so far it's just a gimmick for a few users in a couple of areas.
Yeah, me too. I don't actually think that this is what most people miss, but rather basic map info where ever it's missing or wrong. I mainly meant to say that Apple didn't naively trying to create their own algorithm, but bought a working solution. The C3 people most likely know exactly what is needed for their solution to work.
Edit: Also, I'm not sure every part of the earth would need to be 3d mapped for it to be useful, even if it's restricted to major cities and attractions that's great imo.
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1940s maps
According to iMaps, I live in a public school. Ver clever, my building used to be a public school... Back in 1903... Then it got sold became a private school, in 1950... Then it was an abandoned building... In 1970... Then got converted to condos.. In 1984...
This makes me believe that apple are using maps from 1940s
According to iMaps, I live in a public school. Ver clever, my building used to be a public school... Back in 1903... Then it got sold became a private school, in 1950... Then it was an abandoned building... In 1970... Then got converted to condos.. In 1984...
This makes me believe that apple are using maps from 1940s
Thanks to you and dv8r for that link.
It's as if no one at Apple really ever tested the new Maps app. So here's my question:
Didn't a lot of developers/others download and try out the new maps before the phone came out?
Yes and the problems we're seeing in the released version were apparant from the beginning...
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1385928/
Under Cook we've had the whole ePeat fiasco and subsequent reversal, the factory conditions scandal, the firing of many retail employees and subsequent reversal, and last but not least... the amazing new Maps app and all of the time and money that went into the corporate acquisitions and development of this crap. If Antennagate is the biggest thing you can hang around Jobs' neck, he still did a better job than Cook AND he was personally involved in overseeing the development of Apple's products.
Look at the keynotes. Look at the products. Does it seem like Cook is driving the product development and design? Who is the visionary at Apple to give us "the next big thing"? Where is the freak so obsessed over UI design that he would send stuff back repeatedly until it was perfect?
Cook is a manager. He is good at numbers and managing his direct reports. He is not a product visionary, not a genius, and certainly does not have the same level of passion for his job as Jobs had for his life's work. This is the reality in which we live, and I am sending good wishes Apple's way because I want them to continue to be successful. However, after seeing some of the Galaxy S3's features, Apple better watch its back. As Heidi Klum loves to say, one day you're in and the next day you're out.
And none of this happened or was well on it's way to market while Jobs was still alive? What happened to the next few years of products that Jobs had lined up before he passed away? Was Siri Tim's baby? The new Final Cut?
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Where did the "n year pipeline after the turtlenecked one's demise" stories originate?
Certainly not an Apple press release - more likely an Apple fan fantasy.
Anyone familiar with computer tech, and particularly with consumer electronics related to computer tech, would realize that "5 year plans" make as much sense for consumer electronics as they made for the late Soviet Union.
Where did the "n year pipeline after the turtlenecked one's demise" stories originate?
Certainly not an Apple press release - more likely an Apple fan fantasy.
Anyone familiar with computer tech, and particularly with consumer electronics related to computer tech, would realize that "5 year plans" make as much sense for consumer electronics as they made for the late Soviet Union.
I guess you're right. I was thinking more along the lines of these amazing new products that Steve invented that Apple is working on to be released in the next few years, like the mini iPad and whatever he meant by "cracking it" where tv was concerned. Next thing you'll be telling me Steve lied to us.
And according to many here, the iPhone 5 was what Steve wanted instead of the 4S, but it wasn't ready. And buy the looks of it, it still isn't ready.
iOS maps and possibly a scratching problem. I guess those things don't mean the phone isn't ready, but it seems that many are quite disappointed with scratched phones out of the box and a poor map function.
Apple had so much tied up on Steve Jobs that they had to spin the "we got enough ideas for x years" - hell some people though he invented, designed and produced it all by himself...
I think he was sick in the end - i don't think he was part of Apples development cycle for a great deal of his last 2 years. There had to be a point where this would show in the way Apple works. The seven inch iPad seems more like a Eddie Cue dream than something Jobs himself was actively pursuing, not that this is a bad thing because Apple needs it's second line to take over.
Jobs was in a different league - compare one of his appearances on All Things D with the one Tim Cook did. Cook is clearly no visionary and no driving force for innovation and i think it's starting to pop up through the cracks at Apple. At this point in the map debacle Steve Jobs would be out there screaming that you should use the eyes in your head and get a life - taking the blame and the flak... Tim Cook threw the team-lead and the team under the bus instead - what a dick move.
I really doubt it - the iPhone 4 (and S) is the best phone design ever, it needed two years out there, it was pure brilliance in design. The iPhone 5 is sorta "meh" in my view, a more messy design and odd little mistakes...
I just read on BGR that Google has 7100 people working on Maps. That's probably more than the total number of non-retail Apple employees. Apple is hiring people for map development right now though (about a dozen positions). Good luck iOS fans with your map adventures 
I just read on BGR that Google has 7100 people working on Maps. That's probably more than the total number of non-retail Apple employees. Apple is hiring people for map development right now though (about a dozen positions). Good luck iOS fans with your map adventures
That 7100 includes people out capturing the street view data. the core dev team is *significantly* smaller.
It depends on what you call a "core team"
Map application is first of all about data and those "foot soldiers" are very much the core of this team. It's not all about software developers (and I am one BTW )Good luck iOS fans with your map adventures
I'm going to a new town. I'm using Apple maps so I've got some rations and three days worth of water. Wish me luck!
iOS maps is a software issue. As for the scratching problem, that's reaching.
No product has 100% satisfaction. None. Do you have evidence that a higher percentage of iPhone 5 purchasers are unhappy with their new phone than were unhappy with the iPhone 4S, or iPhone 4?
Go back a year and read these blogs, and you'll find similar complaints about Siri not understanding them, or not providing information in their location. Go back two years, and you'll find "antenna-gate".
I'm pretty sure if Steve Jobs had been alive back then he would have never allowed those products to be released!
The complaints today or no more or less legitimate than the ones in the past, but they need to be viewed in perspective, which is something that takes time. Will they harm Apple's bottom line the way "antenna-gate" did? The way Siri did? I'm sure Apple hopes so.
God damn it, I know I've said it a hundred times, but they have $100bn, why don't they use that bloody money to set up a proper Maps department? Not with 10 employees, but with 100.
The greediness/tightness of sitting on such vast reserves and doing nothing with it, in a time when the world needs economic growth and people need jobs, actually offends me.
I'm no expert in these things and I haven't read all the posts but I was prepared to give maps a go (although spotting some odd errors in my local area on it). However I use the walk meter app which now uses apple maps and noticed that it could not seem to keep a GPS fix on me as I walked. It seemed to jump around a lot. I don't know if this is the maps fault or the app.
Well I do think there is one big difference.
Steve cared about the products because that fed his ego to be the best, to leave a lasting legacy and to change things.
I think Tim cares about the money. Get the product out and we'll fix it later because we need to keep the share price going up. The retail changes are testament to that. Steve wanted the AppleStores to be unique and a great experience, Tim just wants them to make more money.
And yes I do think they should ask "what would Steve do" regardless of what he said. We all need a guiding philosophy in life, something to shape our thoughts and actions. For many that comes from their faith, for others it's the teachings of a particular businessman, politician, singer, parent, mentor, coach, etc.
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The app is such an awful disappointment. I think this change was just too much may Apple go on with its thermonuclear war - I'm out!
You can't just sell products for this amount of money and go for the excuse "early product stage"!
You can't just sell products for this amount of money and go for the excuse "early product stage"!
But the problems with the maps are not cartographic, they are GIS related issues (I say this as a geographer and an experienced ArcGIS user). The data is not matching up correctly (GIS issue), data is missing (GIS issue), data is mis-categorised (GIS issue)... the base layer is fine (from what I've seen), it's the data layers that are the problem, which means either poor data, or a poor process - garbage in, garbage out.