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The kicker in the press release was this statement by apple:



Which interpreted in a way means that unlocking and 3rd party apps will void the warranty. Luckally there is a way to reverse the unlock...

Please share a step by step way to reverse! I had the phone one day and unlocked it cause I couldnt activate on my company plan with AT&T. Later, I was able to convert my corp plan over to a regular one and activated my phone. I am legit but risk being bricked and would love to reverse the process but do not know how to do it.
 
This whole issue of the "right" to be able to unlock and iPhone and abuse the people who brought the product to market seems like the rantings of a bunch of spoiled children.

In this post internet culture people seem to think they have the "right" to do whatever they want. Legal or not.

I completely agree. As much as I want to be involved in forums such as this to discuss Apple's latest and greatest, I find myself becoming increasingly annoyed by the expectations people have and the way these are voiced.

More than anything (as I mentioned in my post above) I despise the way many people perceive Apple to somehow 'owe' them something. You might have a personal connection to Apple through whatever reason (as do I, I identify with the company and what they do and have been a mac user for years) but please don't act like spoiled brats when they do something you disagree with.

Also - talking in txt spk, omitting vowels, not capitalising words and claiming to know how the legal system works does not make up for an apparent lack of common sense or intelligence.

-Leemo
 
I never SIGNED up for any service. I went in to the Apple Store, bought an iphone for the asking price, and walked out. Just like most people who have unlocked phones, they didn't buy them from ATT. If Apple would just require activation in the store, most of these issues would be settled.

Well yes, but you clearly knew what having an iPhone entailed, a 2 year plan with AT&T. Just because they didn't hold your hand through the process counts for jack - the T&Cs are there for everyone to see.

-Leemo
 
What's the big deal?

Everyone expected the iPhone firmware 1.1.1 to break the current unlocks...

Apple is doing us a favour by warning us instead of having the unhappy few realise it does break your brick... :p

So, don't update the iPhone, until we get a new unlock app. Maybe we need a new relock app first.... we'll see.

The iPhone as it is now, is the finest portable device ever. No need for updating right now. :)
 
So the question that begs to be asked, is Apple doing this intentionally or is it just an inevitable part of the software update process??

Regardless, I guess this just means that anyone with a hacked iPhone won't be installing Apple updates.

Without a doubt intentionally. There's no other reason to change the 'lock' on the phone. Other than somebody broke it and AT&T sort of lost exclusivity.

Somebody is going to have to unlock the iPhone all over again. Wonder how long it will take this time?

Then Apple will just change it again.

This is all well and good given current law but current law blows; locking phones to networks should not be allowed.
 
No offense, and not to single this post out, but I can't believe the stupidity of someone who unlocks their iPhone. It just takes a bad deal with AT&T and makes it worse. There is no speed increase, and no "deal" to be had on charges. It will cost a great deal more to use on any other network even if it works.

The only person who has any valid, sensible reason to unlock their iPhone is someone who lives in a country that doesn't even have the iPhone yet but wants one. If you want an iPhone that bad, that you are willing to pay 600 bucks for and then possibly brick it, well then your what used to be called a "dilettante" and you deserve whatever you get.

I can't figure out why anybody even cares about this or feels bad for people who have done it. It makes no sense to do it for the most part, and those that *can* do it are basically rich, 1st world consumers that no one should feel sorry for at all.

Worst of all are those that think they have a "right" to force Apple to support their hacks. Last I checked, if I design a product, you can refuse to buy it, but you have no right to tell me how I should design it.

bunch of whiny babies if you ask me. :)

You dont know what are you talking about /no offense:p/ but I live regular basis in 2-3 countries and I like gadgets. On the top of that I will NOT pay AT&T roaming charges. So in US I use AT&T but when I fly to Europe I just swap SIM. It works for me. And I like it that way...
 
Just think about the new features that the iPhone would probably have already if Apple did not have to waste time hacking phones to see what will happen to them.

Anyone with a "hacked" iphone should be thanking Apple for taking the time, resources, & obviously money to see what the potential ramifications will be be to those with "hacked" phones & then giving notice of the potential "harm".

No sympathy, your taking away talent that could be doing great things-!!
 
What's the big deal?

Everyone expected the iPhone firmware 1.1.1 to break the current unlocks...

Apple is doing us a favour by warning us instead of having the unhappy few realise it does break your brick... :p

So, don't update the iPhone, until we get a new unlock app. Maybe we need a new relock app first.... we'll see.

The iPhone as it is now, is the finest portable device ever. No need for updating right now. :)
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Did you ever consider Apple was trying to be nice to you with the warning?
No. Because the warning is just covering their own a$$es so they can say "See, we told you."

The warning is irrelevant. These hacks are not easy, so we all knew that they could be broken as they arent officially supported.
 
I think it's time to send out another batch of these shirts:
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Are you kidding? So say I have 2 pieces of software on a device. Software A is dependent on Software B and vice versa to operate properly. I hack Software B and the device company updates Software A that is incompatible with your hacked Software B and it causes the device to fail.

GET IT YET?
:confused:

I guess you don't understand. The unlock patches a part of the baseband that allows the phone to work on any carrier. The new update contains a baseband update.

What would normally happen is that the baseband update would just overwrite the existing baseband completely, meaning that it wouldn't matter if you had used the unlock software or not.

The fact that it breaks your phone is odd as the update should simply overwrite everything already there.
 
What's the big deal?

Everyone expected the iPhone firmware 1.1.1 to break the current unlocks...

Apple is doing us a favour by warning us instead of having the unhappy few realise it does break your brick... :p

So, don't update the iPhone, until we get a new unlock app. Maybe we need a new relock app first.... we'll see.

The iPhone as it is now, is the finest portable device ever. No need for updating right now. :)


I Agree... Everyone should just calm down... Using it as Apple made it is not so bad... is it?
 
In plain text: If you unlock your phone and something breaks after an update, you suffer the consequences. Go pound sand.

If the people who are in the minority (SIM unlockers) are "smart enough" to hack the phone, you should be "smart enough" to fix it.

Apple has been doing some willful locking down of iPods with recent updates, I don't see this as any different. They have an investment to protect and will not think twice about deploying patches that have the potentional to do "harm".

I see the same "loyal fans" from the $100 rebate drama are coming out to say they will "leave Apple" (OH NOES) if Apple ends up breaking phones, intentionally or not.

This seems to be a warning flare.
 
Sounds to me like Apple is gonna be putting something in 1.1.1 to brick all the unlockers.... and brick with a vengeance.
More likely the Apple developers won't go out their way to ensure that the update will work on unlocked phones. As a software developer myself, I understand this. There's always the chance that an untested configuration will break. You have to draw the line somewhere when releasing software.

Does not seem like a good idea to me. If they do that, and they thought the backlash after a 200 dollar price drop was bad...
Yes, the fourteen people who've unlocked their iPhones are going to be upset.
 
It's just so catchy.

I say brick 'em.

Anybody complaining should really get their brain checked.
 
Well yes, but you clearly knew what having an iPhone entailed, a 2 year plan with AT&T. Just because they didn't hold your hand through the process counts for jack - the T&Cs are there for everyone to see.

-Leemo
Hahaha Please wire transfer me 1564$. You clearly knew that you will have to after I read your post...:rolleyes: Get a grip! I like a toy, I dont care about Apple buisiness plan
 
No. Because the warning is just covering their own a$$es so they can say "See, we told you."

The warning is irrelevant. These hacks are not easy, so we all knew that they could be broken as they arent officially supported.

First off Apple doesn't need to "cover their own ass" if you've ever taken the time to read the fine print.So that argument is moot.

Secondly Apple has no need to say I told you so since you yourself admitted they aren't officially supported.

You've been warned by Apple.If I were you I'd listen.
 
Hahaha Please wire transfer me 1564$. You clearly knew that you will have to after I read your post...:rolleyes: Get a grip! I like a toy, I dont care about Apple buisiness plan
AND THEY DON'T CARE IF IT BRICKS YOUR IPHONE. You aren't entitled to ANYTHING. You bought your toy, congratulations. You aren't playing by the rules and the next update might make it worthless. End of story.
 
This seems to be a warning flare.

Definitely - and a warning flare that they didn't really need to offer. They could have just let people brick their phones, and quite frankly that would have been 'tough'.

I nearly bought an iPhone from abroad to unlock - and if I would have done so I still would have had the same viewpoint - you hack, you take your chances.
It's Apple's software and they can bloody well do what they like with it.

-Leemo
 
Well yes, but you clearly knew what having an iPhone entailed, a 2 year plan with AT&T. Just because they didn't hold your hand through the process counts for jack - the T&Cs are there for everyone to see.

-Leemo


You totally missed the point. Of course I knew, I'm just saying that APPLE could easily fix this with mandatory in-store activation. It knew damn well this would happen, and of course benefited from it. They could solve it easily, but they obviously don't want to.

I have ATT, just not the plan ATT and Apple wants me to have. If ATT were more accomodating to my needs as a customer of over 5 years, I'd happily activated my iphone through them and pay $20 for a data plan. For now, I'm happy with my pre-cingular ATT plan that gives me massive amounts of minutes for less than anything on offer today.
 
To those who unlocked your iPhones, you have your warning. But Apple is not making you upgrade, so they are not bricking you phones. Choose from getting a supported carrier, and get the new features which your extra revenue stream pays for. Or unlock and keep the firmware you paid for! There really should be no complaints.
 
What happens when you mod your car out and try to take it to emissions inspection? What happens when the cops see tinted glass that is too dark?
 
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