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Originally posted by Doctor Q
itunes.macrumors.com

I haven't noticed the use of a subdomain devoted to a topic before. Is this something new? Are there others?

Site News: Rumors by Product

The iTunes one is new. There's a search box on the bottom of the main macrumors page which lists them.
 
Re: Side effect of iTunes for Windows?

Originally posted by inkswamp
An online acquaintance of mine (who asked not to be named... heh... wonder why) commented to me that he thinks a Windows version of Safari could emerge from the whole iTunes for Windows thing since iTunes and Safari rely on a lot of the same libraries to do their work (I guess iTunes renders the music store that way.) I'm not so technically inclined to know whether there's any validity to such a statement or not, but it does seem like an interesting outcome of this. Has anyone heard any such rumors and furthermore does anyone have a deep enough understanding of this to comment? At first, I thought Safari for Windows would be ridiculous, but then when you think about MS's announcement to stop making IE as a standalone product, it seems like one of those unlikely scenarios that could happen.
What's the point of porting Safari to windows? It doesn't make any money ('cos it's free) and would only be a support issue. iTunes is only being ported because it's needed for iTMS - it will make money for Apple. Who's to say Apple are even using webcore on windows? They may be then again they may be using IEs rendering engine.
 
Originally posted by micvog
It will be interesting to see if Apple also includes WMA support for Windows iTunes and the iPod at the same time.

Even though WMA is a proprietary Microsoft format, it has the appearance of being an open standard since there are a number of third-party devices that support WMA. As an example, my DVD player (Panasonic) plays WMA files, my Pocket PC plays WMA files, my co-worker's Honda Accord plays WMA files and most MP3 players do as well. AAC on the other hand, while being an open standard, has the appearance of being proprietary since only Apple is pushing it (AFAIK). I don't know of a DVD player, PDA, car CD player or MP3 player (besides the iPod) that plays AAC.

Question:

How many of those play protected WMA files?

Unless something has changed drastically in the past couple of weeks, very few do.

"WMA" compatibility isn't the same as "Any WMA-based Music Store" compatibility, especially if your device is more than a year old.
 
itunes for windows free?

anyone know if apple will charge for iTunes for Windows - or will it be a free product? My coworker has gotten addicted to iTunes and has been downloading tons of songs from my powerbook. I hope the windows version is free so she can download from her computer and I can work in peace!
 
Re: itunes for windows free?

Originally posted by rishio
anyone know if apple will charge for iTunes for Windows - or will it be a free product? My coworker has gotten addicted to iTunes and has been downloading tons of songs from my powerbook. I hope the windows version is free so she can download from her computer and I can work in peace!

That's a very good question....

Were all talking about that too...
 
Re: itunes for windows free?

That was be suicide if Apple decided to make iTunes for windows payware.

Apple, although have buggered up quite a few times in the past with product decisions, aren't really stupid enough to pull a stunt like that.

If I was a Windows user, WHY, WHY would I want to pay for a product just so I could use iTMS - especially when there are plenty of alternatives.

Makes no sense.

No Windows user would use iTMS. Instant failure.

Originally posted by rishio
anyone know if apple will charge for iTunes for Windows - or will it be a free product? My coworker has gotten addicted to iTunes and has been downloading tons of songs from my powerbook. I hope the windows version is free so she can download from her computer and I can work in peace!
 
yep...

Common sense would conclude that iTunes Music store will be free, and just like the Mac one.

Apple has mentioned that the goal of the iTunes music store is to win Mac converts....

the first hit is always free... :)

arn
 
Originally posted by arn
yep...

Common sense would conclude that iTunes Music store will be free, and just like the Mac one.

Apple has mentioned that the goal of the iTunes music store is to win Mac converts....

the first hit is always free... :)

arn

I think he was talking about the whole software....iTunes Music store would obviously be free...but what about the player???

Another words...Is the software just iTunes music store or the whole iTunes itself???




CS............
 
"the first hit is free"

very funny arn!!

this is good news today as itunes will be a nice trojan horse to bringing more mac users into the fold
 
I'm sure Apple will give the whole iTunes Software for free to iPod users/buyers.

But will they do the same for people who have no intention to buy the iPod? I hope so..
 
Originally posted by arn
Site News: Rumors by Product

The iTunes one is new. There's a search box on the bottom of the main macrumors page which lists them.
Well, that certainly shows how observant I am! :rolleyes:
Lame excuse: I never scroll down that far, since the newest news is at the top of the page!

Back to the topic...

The Windows software will be free free free. Apple's goal is to sell iTunes music and iPods. Charging for software would interfere with that goal.
 
Originally posted by arn
yep...

the first hit is always free... :)



I'll take a hit, please pass it on down.

I wonder if iTunes will support plugins? I really would love to buy music from iTMS and burn it to a MiniDisc. Would this be possible you think?
 
As i posted over a month ago, Itunes will be ready mid October in order to beat an announcement from Microsoft in November and get a jump on fourth quarter sales.

Microsoft will be launching their own competing service in mid November and will be pushing hard on their announcements and marketing. Also with an assortment of copycat ipod rip-off devices which will play their WMA copy-protected format files. Their service will pretty much copy Itunes and everything Apple has done. Big surprise there.
 
Originally posted by Mason
If I were Apple, I wouldn't announce iTunes for Windows this week. I'm assuming that they would like some media coverage and they're not likely to get it with the recall and the leak taking up 99% of the news coverage. I'd wait until next week.

I think it would be nice to announce it tomorrow and steal some of Napster's thunder (what little they will have).
 
Re: Re: Side effect of iTunes for Windows?

Originally posted by caveman_uk
What's the point of porting Safari to windows? It doesn't make any money ('cos it's free) and would only be a support issue. iTunes is only being ported because it's needed for iTMS - it will make money for Apple. Who's to say Apple are even using webcore on windows? They may be then again they may be using IEs rendering engine.

If Apple is using KHTML in iTunes for Windows, then a Safari port could help them in the enterprise. Safari is aiming to be very standards compliant, and having another high profile standards-based browser helps the smaller players. Heterogeneous IT environments are getting a lot of press, but if business webapps are coded for IE then Apple is at a disadvantage. With Safari for Win you could deploy the same browser across Mac and Win, and not have to use the bloated Mozilla.

Dunno, I see what they can gain, but it seems like a lot of work, since Safari is all Cocoa.
 
Music match software

I don't know if Music Match uses the same interface that they use on the iPod as they do on their website... if so then people will be driven away by the sheer mind boggling confusion of it. I just got my iPod and, first, attached it to my PC to get the my music off of it. Didn't work because the files were WMA. No biggie. But was stunned with the profusion of buttons and boxes that made little intuitive sense on the interface. It was very cluttered. When I read the help file I was left more confused than before. I agree with the poster who downloaded music at 3:00am. The KISS method is always best and I think that Apple got it right with their music store. I haven't used MM so I can't speak to the quality of their website.

I am a bit ambivalent about WMA being suppor tby the iPod. It would be nice to have that compatibility but I think that we are talking about market dominance in the music distribution channel in the long run. The danger is that people will buy the iPod by the dozens but stay with a closed standard. I imagine that the music biz would love that because they can have more control over the distribution despite their wariness of Microspft. AAC soon become irrelevant because there is no pressing need to support it, despite apparent sound quality superority.

Now if only Apple Records will drop their lawsuit...
 
Underground Labels

Did anyone notice that smaller labels are now on the ITMS. Epitaph is one that I know of that is on there. (lots of punk bands) Anyone see any others?
 
Of course the player will be free.

If Windows user have to pay to be able to play any tunes bought from iTMS - they'll ignore it.

There are plenty of truely free alternatives out there.

If I was a windows user, I certinately wouldn't pay... I'd use another service.
 
Re: Underground Labels

Originally posted by mclosers
Did anyone notice that smaller labels are now on the ITMS. Epitaph is one that I know of that is on there. (lots of punk bands) Anyone see any others?

None that I noticed...I'm still waiting for stuff from Metropolis Records.....
 
Well its about time...

The sooner the better...

There are so many names... buymusic, napster, iTunes, and more and more every day!

:mad:

Not looking good, apple better keep up and have more songs.
 
Originally posted by Mason
If I were Apple, I wouldn't announce iTunes for Windows this week. I'm assuming that they would like some media coverage and they're not likely to get it with the recall and the leak taking up 99% of the news coverage. I'd wait until next week.

Why would that be an obstacle?

"At the inauguration ceremony, Gov. Schwarzenegger conspicuously held an Apple iPod portable music player in his hand as he boasted of California's potential for a strong economy. 'We have innovative firms like Apple Computer who just this week announced their iTunes online music store would be available for Windows. With companies like Apple providing innovative products and services, California can definitely become once again an economically vibrant state.'"
 
I think when the windows itunes comes out many people are going to write negative articles about how limited the program is. If it doesn't have hundreds of customizable options and dozens of buttons they will say it cant do much more than play music. And since it wont play windows media or real media, people talk like thats a bad thing.
Personally I can't wait, I am hoping it can talk to the mac version of itunes so you can stream music on a network. That way, my old mac wont have to use processing power to play music all day while I work.
 
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