Apple Job Posting Suggests 'Revolutionary' New Mac OS X Feature

[iBug2]

That would never happen. Like ever. Apple is a hardware company that makes software to sell their hardware. They will never be a software company. They only do software that will enhance the experience of their own hardware.

You are either kidding or have no clue. Apple is first and foremost a software company. They practically don't make any hardware. All the hardware they use are bought from 3rd party manufacturers. They only design the shell of their hardware.

iPhone is nothing but iOS. Mac is nothing but Mac OS X. iPod is nothing but iPod OS.

 

[redscull]

Trash can?

Not the same. That is no better than a Windows newb deleting a directory out of Program Files and thinking he "uninstalled" an application. Granted, Mac tends to sandbox its apps better than Windows, so just deleting the app's folder does mostly get rid of it. But it's still not clean. Windows may be easier to "junk up" than OSX for an amateur, but for someone who installs the OS thimself and pays close attention to everything later installed, it's far easier to maintain a clean Windows system than a clean OSX system. My MBP always feels really dirty since there isn't a true uninstall process for apps.

Wouldn't need to touch the core OS.

So? It's still the most amazing and revolutionary feature I can think of for a Mac to get. Steve could announce that the next OS X will read my mind to know what to do instead of requiring a keyboard/mouse, but unless it plays Blu-Ray movies when my mind tell it to, I'd tell Steve that I'm not impressed.

Please no, if you want Windows just use Windows 7 it is not that bad.

You don't have to click it, you know. I want the Maximize button for myself. It's the only thing I constantly miss since migrating from Windows.

Already there.

Have you used Windows? In Explorer, you just type in ftp://site and you have ftp access to that site just like it was part of your own file system. I want this in Finder. Full FTP integration. No, it is not presently there. (yes, the ftp site must allow ftp connections and you have to provide your user/pass where applicable the first time)

 

[clientsiman]

LOL oh my god you are so right... I can't believe OS X still can't do that...

They will reinvent it in few years time, just be patient.

 

[3282868]

I remember back in the Leopard beta days when iChat had an "Answering Machine" option. The user could leave a video recorded outgoing message and the caller could leave a voice or video message. At the time many speculated that Apple may have been leaning toward the computer as an all-in-one home device; a phone/video answering system, entertainment hub, productivity system, etc. Seems Apple is more interested in multi-touch (i.e. "Magic") and iOS mobile systems. Maybe bridging these concepts into a streamlined system that functions as more than a computer?

 

[8CoreWhore]

Hmmmmmnnn. Maybe deep integration of local and cloud operations.

 

[3583582]

You are either kidding or have no clue. Apple is first and foremost a software company. They practically don't make any hardware. All the hardware they use are bought from 3rd party manufacturers. They only design the shell of their hardware.

iPhone is nothing but iOS. Mac is nothing but Mac OS X. iPod is nothing but iPod OS.

Duuh. Almost no hardware company creates all the hardware themself. The point is that they make their money from selling hardware. They use software to make people buy that hardware. Not the other way around.

 

[repking]

LOL oh my god you are so right... I can't believe OS X still can't do that...

Can't do what?

command-X *command-V doesn't work for you?

I couldn't certainly think of what else are you loosing, boys.

 

[kernkraft]

Everything is revolutionary these days - Jobs should really calm down.

Besides, cloud computing remains a myth.

 

[porky]

Not the same. That is no better than a Windows newb deleting a directory out of Program Files and thinking he "uninstalled" an application. Granted, Mac tends to sandbox its apps better than Windows, so just deleting the app's folder does mostly get rid of it. But it's still not clean. Windows may be easier to "junk up" than OSX for an amateur, but for someone who installs the OS thimself and pays close attention to everything later installed, it's far easier to maintain a clean Windows system than a clean OSX system. My MBP always feels really dirty since there isn't a true uninstall process for apps.

correct! I always tell people you just can delete a folder on a mac to uninstall the program, but i heard that's not enough for a lot of programs.

 

[Tyre]

I'm disappointed already. It may be revolutionary, but if it's not magical as well, I'm not interested.

I'll just keep my iPad.

+1

They are going to reinvent the web people.
That big a** server farm?
HELLO!!!!!!!!!
Goodbye Google! It was a pleasure knowing you.
Oh and while they are at it they'll probably use that server farm to create their own cellular network.
Truly revolutionary!!!!

-9000

How about when I install something, it doesn't leave a .dmg thing on my desktop that I don't know if I need to delete or stick in the hard drive thing.

Great point, that has gotten old real quick.

I agree with some amount of Cloud OS, but not entirely. That's Google's forte, Apple would never leave behind the giant profit margins of their hardware.

 

[iBookG4user]

It's nice to see that the Mac is not being completely forgotten

 

[MacFly123]

OK people let's get serious here!

LOGIC:

-By the ad description, this will be something that will be very apparent to the end user and WOW them!
-It is based on HTML5 and web standards.
-Apple will "start" using their massive data center next year.
-Apple supports 2 platforms, the App Store, and HTML5.
-Apple is releasing the new Xcode 4 with possible HTML5 tools.
-Apple is rumored to be creating a open replacement for Flash called Guiandula.
-Apple is rumored to rebrand Mac OS X to iOS and iOS Mobile for the iDevices etc.
-This new feature will be at the very core of the OS. (Think QT).
-Nobody has done this before.
-Steve has said on several occasions that he doesn't think everything will go to the cloud or that we will use dumb terminals. (All things D several times).

NOW... Taking these things into account, my guess is that this is something where Apple will implement their two platforms within the Mac OS. In other words, Apple could somehow integrate the App Store with iOS as being integrated along with its apps, or as an overlay such as Dashboard. BUT ALSO & MAINLY perhaps the ENTIRE OS will be able to render HTML5 and web standards and not ONLY in the browser. In other words, you could have HTML5 apps running as if they are native apps right in the OS, no browser involved!!! NOW THAT would be VERY interesting and a HUGE threat to Microsoft and Google. It would be different than a cloud OS. It would be a hybrid of both and VERY powerful and versatile!!!

This is along the lines of what I see happening based on the evidence I compiled!

Anyone have some real or serious thoughts about this?

 

[JCanfield]

License Windows?

Everything Apple does is revolutionary. I'm still excited, but the buzz-word gets old.

How about, make an OS that is fully compatible with Windows programs, so you don't have to flip to boot camp or fusion or parallels every time you need to use something that requires Windows. Whenever someone is looking for a new computer, I tell them to get a Mac because I truly think its better. Then I have to explain that not everything is compatible, Office costs more on a Mac, and if you want to run programs built for Windows you have to pay around $50 for an emulator and up to $100 for a copy of Windows to run on it, on top of the higher cost of the Mac.

Being able to install software meant for Windows on a Mac with no other cost would be truly revolutionary. I know next to nothing about programming, though, so others will have to tell me how stupid this is.

Unless you're talking about Wine, there will absolutely be a cost for adding Windows APIs to MacOS - or do you think that Microsoft would just give their crown jewels to Apple without a licensing fee?

 

[Jaro65]

This just reeks of touch/iOS convergence.

Could be the case.

 

[lewis82]

I noticed a tendency after being here for a while. There are three main types of rumors/reactions to a rumor.

-Fantasms: PowerBook G5, Xeon iMac for 500$. That kind of thing.

-Doomsday: End of OS X, Cloud OS, etc.

-Realistic ones. Rare, and appear only a short while before the actual release.

This rumor in particular will most likely fall in one of the two former categories.

 

[inket]

Cocoa iTunes X

 

[pixpixpix]

AppleWave

soon to be followed by

AppleBuzz

and then

AppleFace

 

[godrifle]

LOL oh my god you are so right... I can't believe OS X still can't do that...

How about an option to merge folders instead of only being able to replace them.

FIX THE FINDER FIRST!

 

[cult hero]

Can't wait for 10.7. I'm already getting kind of bored of 10.6 and I just got my Mac two weeks ago. I want 10.7 to be big though. Not something minor like 10.6. I also want to be able to run it as smoothly as 10.6.

From a developer's standpoint, 10.6 is awesome. With all the changes being made under the hood, it becomes very obvious very quickly why they sold it for $30. Aside from it being a push to kill PPC once and for all, they want to get everyone on this code base.

And, I seem to be some minority (I can never tell, the whiners are always the most vocal) but I have been happy with 10.6 since launch time. I installed it the day it came out on my main machine and haven't been more pleased with an OS so early.

 

[newfoundglory]

Yes, its viral... and if it was any other company we wouldnt be too impressed by this job ad. BUT this is Apple and we all know they probably have something amazing and cool in store.

It describes the "very foundations" of Mac OS X.

Well, I do in fact believe we are looking at Apple developing its own filesystem of sorts. Probably one which has features similar to ZFS (file system ,volume manager, pools, snapshots for time machine, copy on write, health)... yet combines a seamless cloud computing platform which appears to be local in nature (think iTunes) and has features for some virtualisation (think iOS and Windows)

 

[reallynotnick]

The new feature is that they have finally made Mac OS X 100% magical!

 

[Lynxpoint]

My thoughts exactly. Replace Dashboard with iOS.

This would be interesting, but from a practical developer perspective does it make sense? I am not a developer but I wonder about running iOS apps in an emulator along with addressing the different interface. What about things like syncing with and i-device as well?

 

[ColourMeRedd]

seems like everything apple does is claimed to be "revolutionary"... bleh!

 

[Popeye206]

You are either kidding or have no clue. Apple is first and foremost a software company. They practically don't make any hardware. All the hardware they use are bought from 3rd party manufacturers. They only design the shell of their hardware.

iPhone is nothing but iOS. Mac is nothing but Mac OS X. iPod is nothing but iPod OS.

Sorry to be blunt but... are you nuts? Yes, they use other people video cards and hard drives and Intel chips but the motherboard designs, the other special components in their hardware, the overall design (not just the looks, but the design of the guts to go into the pretty cases) are all Apple designed. Not to mention their own A4 chip for the iPhone4.

What makes Apple unique in the industry is they do both... make killer hardware and make killer software to run it. This is why they are winning on many fronts right now... they have the control over the entire eco system.

But to say they don't make hardware is crazy... yes, they don't manufacture it in-house... almost no one does anymore... but they are responsible for all the design and what goes in it. Even the custom bits they toss in.

 

[hbryan]

Everything Apple does is revolutionary. I'm still excited, but the buzz-word gets old.

How about, make an OS that is fully compatible with Windows programs, so you don't have to flip to boot camp or fusion or parallels every time you need to use something that requires Windows. Whenever someone is looking for a new computer, I tell them to get a Mac because I truly think its better. Then I have to explain that not everything is compatible, Office costs more on a Mac, and if you want to run programs built for Windows you have to pay around $50 for an emulator and up to $100 for a copy of Windows to run on it, on top of the higher cost of the Mac.

Being able to install software meant for Windows on a Mac with no other cost would be truly revolutionary. I know next to nothing about programming, though, so others will have to tell me how stupid this is.

Never, ever, ever, happen. Look at what IBM with through with WIN-OS/2. The WIN API would change on a monthy basis for the sole purpose of breaking compatibility.