IJ Reilly
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Nobody. This expo is so over.
Apple: Jobs Will Not Present at Apple's Final Macworld Keynote
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Nobody. This expo is so over.
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
The keynote is an Apple thing. There just wouldn't be one in 2010.
Cameront9
macrumors 65816
If they were smart they would re-image the thing and make in an Apple Lover's expo. I'm thinking PAX, but for Mac people.
IJ Reilly
macrumors P6
It's not just the keynote. Without Apple, the expo is dead. I'd be very surprised if IDG tries to keep the thing going in 2010 with Apple not even exhibiting on the show floor.
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
So would I.
It's a good thing perhaps
There has been some pretty outrageous numbers floating around these days in regards to the unionized costs to the participants of these trade shows that does not exactly extoll a 'green' or practical event.
So if its good business sense that's that.
There has been some pretty outrageous numbers floating around these days in regards to the unionized costs to the participants of these trade shows that does not exactly extoll a 'green' or practical event.
So if its good business sense that's that.
Bubba Satori
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neutrino23
macrumors 68000
The Stevenote is Dead, Long Live the Stevenote
End of an era. So many memories of lining up outside Moscone in the dark trying to get a seat up front. The feeling of anticipation after finally getting a seat before Steve came out and started talking.
It had to end someday. I understand it from a business viewpoint. MWSF used to be almost the only place to view Apple hardware and related products. Now we have over 200 Apple stores. More people visit Apple stores every day than visit MWSF (guessing). Tradeshows are losing their purpose. Now you can Google some search terms and find any product you might want. Nearly all software vendors now let you download trial versions. It is becoming less and less necessary to physically go somewhere and view product. Steve likes to be ahead of the curve so with the economy in the dumps and other vendors pulling out he had enough cover to pull the plug.
Having said that, I'm sorry to see this end. Steve's keynote was truly a unique event. Nowhere else did you have that combination of a well thought out presentation flawlessly delivered by the one man who could really speak authoritatively about the subject. The keynote was not just a glimpse at new products, it was a glimpse inside the industry presented by the man who, with the other Steve, started the industry. The keynote was always the best show of the year.
End of an era. So many memories of lining up outside Moscone in the dark trying to get a seat up front. The feeling of anticipation after finally getting a seat before Steve came out and started talking.
It had to end someday. I understand it from a business viewpoint. MWSF used to be almost the only place to view Apple hardware and related products. Now we have over 200 Apple stores. More people visit Apple stores every day than visit MWSF (guessing). Tradeshows are losing their purpose. Now you can Google some search terms and find any product you might want. Nearly all software vendors now let you download trial versions. It is becoming less and less necessary to physically go somewhere and view product. Steve likes to be ahead of the curve so with the economy in the dumps and other vendors pulling out he had enough cover to pull the plug.
Having said that, I'm sorry to see this end. Steve's keynote was truly a unique event. Nowhere else did you have that combination of a well thought out presentation flawlessly delivered by the one man who could really speak authoritatively about the subject. The keynote was not just a glimpse at new products, it was a glimpse inside the industry presented by the man who, with the other Steve, started the industry. The keynote was always the best show of the year.
Eric S.
macrumors 68040
Hmm, just when it seemed that Apple was doing more media events (to announce the latest MB/MBP, for example), comes this news. I think it means the death of MWSF. It may continue in a reduced form for a year or two, but eventually no Apple means no interest. It will be weird not to have MWSF to anchor Apple announcements, and to generate tons of rumor traffic! Will Apple now just surprise us with announcements out of the blue?
Jeebus, what an hysterical over reaction. Don't panic.
Lol, really. The after hours trading is down near 3%.
Between this and the flat Nov sales report it will likely dip into the 80s and spend some time there for the next week or so.
Arn is a nephrologist not a urologist. Please do not insult him by calling him a surgeon.
HiRez
macrumors 603
I've been to every west coast MacWorld for about the last 15 years or so. Sometimes I would go 2 or 3 days because there wasn't enough time to see everything I wanted to see. But, the last 3 or 4 I've gone to, I've found myself bored in literally the first few hours and ended up taking off after less than half a day. Don't know if it's me or the show but it just isn't much fun anymore. I think the internet has a lot to do with that (Apple online store, product info, book info samples, and reviews at O'Reilly.com and Amazon.com), as well as Apple retail stores. Now you can even watch the keynote adress in HD from the comfort of your own home, what's the point? 75% of the booths are simply iPod/iPhone accessory stores now anyway and it's a mature, saturated market for other Mac products. There aren't very many truly original products out there anymore, just incremental upgrades. Am I going to blow a whole day, pay gas and parking and fight traffic and mobs of people, just to watch a demo of Photoshop CS58 that I can look up at home in 10 seconds? No.
As of this minute, back up to $95.43 so all of you guys are overreacting.
No, the stock dropped after Macworld.
Avatar74
macrumors 68000
The primary reason Apple is pulling out is to control the expectation-setting on their product releases. To be forced to set and meet the expectations according to the cycle of an outside conference is not a position companies really benefit from. Nor do the consumers, because a rushed product is often a bad product.
This is entirely about Apple, Adobe, Google and others being able to present their products on their terms, when they are ready... and in the end, all the fanboys will be happier knowing that when Apple announces a product it's because it's ready to hit the stores.
This is entirely about Apple, Adobe, Google and others being able to present their products on their terms, when they are ready... and in the end, all the fanboys will be happier knowing that when Apple announces a product it's because it's ready to hit the stores.
Yr Blues
macrumors 68030
Been buying Mac since my Bondi Blue iMac.
My thoughts are that they're just retuning the ship for better efficiency and less waste. Whatever happens to Steve, he'll always have a huge say in what happens.
Steve would be an idiot if he didn't prepare Apple for a future with less of his presence.
It's definitely not like how Bill Gates dropped out of Microsoft, leaving a dismal Vista and Zune (The XBOX is not too shabby) in his wake.
My thoughts are that they're just retuning the ship for better efficiency and less waste. Whatever happens to Steve, he'll always have a huge say in what happens.
Steve would be an idiot if he didn't prepare Apple for a future with less of his presence.
It's definitely not like how Bill Gates dropped out of Microsoft, leaving a dismal Vista and Zune (The XBOX is not too shabby) in his wake.
The question is why would Jobs not give the last keynote?
Is Apple just wanting to back away asap from Jobs being so closely associated with its success?
Or maybe they just want to downplay expectations this January and then surprise on the upside when his replacement announces a spectacular new product.
Is Apple just wanting to back away asap from Jobs being so closely associated with its success?
Or maybe they just want to downplay expectations this January and then surprise on the upside when his replacement announces a spectacular new product.
Umbongo
macrumors 601
No, if anything this lets them get off the cycle of having to present every January.
Greenbird600
macrumors member
Not really that big of a shocker, although it is surprising. I do think that they are right in that trade shows are dying out. Look what happened to the E3.
