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I just bought a second cable, and plugged it into the 12-volt USB adapter I already owned. Presto car charger.:rolleyes:

This is exactly what I did.

I also bought a third cable for the office, and if I need to charge here at work, I plug the cable into my computer.
 
Actually I did :rolleyes: Have you not heard of the process of soldering?

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Pwned.

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And reversed-engineered there lockout chip, huh?

Stop talking. You've been pwned.
 
I don't mind that Apple updated the connector - even to the proprietary one.

But the fact that they don't include even one 30pin to 8pin adapter with your new iPhone5 and are out of adapters at the stores shows that they really didn't think this through.

Hopefully we'll see many cheap third party adapters soon. I realize hat Apple wants to keep a tight lid on "Apple Approved" adapters - and they will - for the ones with the chips for iPod control in them. But for ones that you just need so they charge the iPhone - I'm sure we'll see those pop up at Monoprice soon enough.
 
Amen.

Seems like this would be a lot cheaper and easier to make.

Then buy the knock-offs that are already on the market. They will work fine for simple charging. If you want any additional functionality (audio/video out, etc) you will need an authorized cable.
 
I just bought a second cable, and plugged it into the 12-volt USB adapter I already owned. Presto car charger.:rolleyes:

Look, there's no place in these forums for simple solutions. You have mercilessly interrupted the suffering and rants of dozens of haters with your careless use of logic.
 
This is getting ridiculous. Just let the manufacturers start making the accessories so we can use our phones in our cars. Or, better yet, how about releasing the adaptor already? Maybe Apple itself needs a seminar on how to successfully accomplish transitions because they are failing miserably in this regard.

The last cheap 3rd party accessories I had the "chance" of using not only took twice the time for charging my iPhone but it also made its touchscreen almost unusable while charging.

Hopefully Apple requiring some quality control for 3rd party accessories will make shoddy products a thing of the past.
 
This is the #1 way to piss customers off.

Congrats Apple if that was your intention.
 
This is the #1 way to piss customers off.

Congrats Apple if that was your intention.

im quite confused -- i love the new doc connector. its smaller, more durable, easier to use...and i bet the all-digital nature of its new adaptive pin system will hold a few surprises in store for us.

id never go back to 30-pin. that would be like going back to parallel ports.
 
It is pretty ridiculous that they haven't even announced when the Lightning to 30 pin adapters will be available. I ordered my phone 2.5 weeks ago & it will finally be arriving today, but there is no point in activating it if I can't listen to my music in the car with out the adapter that is just vaporware at this point.
 
So what is it when Samsung changes their connectors 18 times in the last ten years and don't even product adapters?

I'm not in the least bit interested in what Samsung does.

My concern is that Apple is charging absurdly inflated prices for these cables and adapters. It is pure greed, but perhaps more importantly, clearly demonstrates contempt for their loyal customers.
 
This is the #1 way to piss customers off.

Congrats Apple if that was your intention.
Only some customers. I was more pissed off by "Hi-Speed" USB cables that were utter junk and couldn't handle USB, let alone USB2 throughput, price didn't really matter at that point. Kudos to Apple making sure their new tech will be built properly by 3rd parties.

Pricing will come down before long. Christ, nobody else has even made one to know what prices will be, yet. You entitled people should really get some patience, try yoga, zen, less coffee, something.
 
It is pretty ridiculous that they haven't even announced when the Lightning to 30 pin adapters will be available. I ordered my phone 2.5 weeks ago & it will finally be arriving today, but there is no point in activating it if I can't listen to my music in the car with out the adapter that is just vaporware at this point.

Fortunately I had a plan B that I enacted... Pioneer makes an AUX adapter for IPbus head units. It was like $25 shipped on eBay. Although I'd like to use the iPod adapter w/ lightning adapter I figured there were no guarantees it would work. I get to plug in two cables (power and 3.5mm headphone plug), but at least I have tunes and power with my Iphone 5 in the car. Hopefully eventually when the adapter ships it will work as I'd prefer to plug in a single cable.
 
Customer says:


Apple interprets this as:


:apple:


REALLY?!?!?

Some of the posters on this board are sooooooo freakin' myopic I wonder if they don't bump into things walking down the street. :mad:

This is a massive change in a standard that Apple has had for almost a decade. They didn't do this as a cash-grab. Or as a lock-in. They did it for the same reason they've done everything since Steve came back. To solve an engineering/design need. This connector is smaller, smarter and theoretically faster. It also has room to grow and adapt as needs change. They aren't thinking only of a user-segments immediate needs, but are planning long into their product pipeline.

That said the launch of this standard has been handled VERY poorly. :mad: Apple should have had plenty of cables and adapters READY at launch. And I agree they should be cheaper, even if Apple had to take a hit on every one. They could easily scale up the price over time and as adoption increases.

As far as third-party providers having to wait. That is an unfortunate side-effect of Apple's secrecy. There was no way to bring everyone up to speed on the new standard without tipping their hat. (Not that there weren't enough leaks as it was.) :rolleyes:

And finally as far as needing a cheap charge only cable, there are plenty available even for the new iPhone. :D

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...82&h=a84a39fd862a53efb6022b52fb4d19bcba20bc56

These knock-offs will charge fine. The chips in the "official" cables are used to extend the abilities of the cables and shouldn't effect basic charging (not sure about sync :confused: ).
 
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Don't you love when someone ridiculously oversimplifies something with such verve? Me too.
It comes from a huge ego, i.e., scores of engineers at Apple couldn't possibly thought of this. Only the poster could. Yeah, right.
 
I'm fine with the new dock connector, but not launching with the adapters as well as a huge misstep.

I would also like some charge-only cables at some point, no point spending $20 on a cable if you're not going to use any other functionality with it those pins outside of charging.
 
"Requiring Approval of Third-Party Factories"

Does anyone really expect that this will deter Chinese manufacturers in reverse engineering and selling them on ebay and at your local flea market/computer faire for $6.99?
 
As far as third-party providers having to wait. That is an unfortunate side-effect of Apple's secrecy. There was no way to bring everyone up to speed on the new standard without tipping their hat. (Not that there weren't enough leaks as it was.) :rolleyes:

This.

I'd been checking the MFi portal every day for weeks before the iPhone announcement. They put the Lightning specs up on the portal within minutes after the announcement.

All third parties had that time as their starting point. It should've been made available sooner.
 
I don't understand the problem. I use the same wall and car chargers I've been using with earlier iPhones for years. I just plug in the new phone's lightning cable instead. It's really not that hard.

Edits: the apple stores have lightning cables in stock now. Like others, I wish adapters were available sooner. I'm still waiting for the ones I ordered from apple online store.

I know the world revolves around you and the car you have, but many of us cannot directly plug USB devices into our cars. We plug them in via the connector (be it 30-pin connector or Lightning). Apparently you didn't pay close enough attention to the Keynote.
 
Anyone looking for the $19 Lightning to USB connectors? My local Best Buy has about 50 of them. I bought 2 yesterday. I think the lightning connector is great, but the USB side seems so outdated. Thunderbolt should have used this instead of mdp then we could have lightning to lightning cables, etc.

The cord is $19 that is nothing if you can afford the iPhone... it works with all your old USB chargers of which I had 7 of different brands. Also if you are too cheap or broke go to any major hotel and tell them you left one in your room on your last stay... they have 100's
 
You did get it (bolded above). Mix in the licensing requirements and you fully get it.

And still, the "free PR" cheerleaders spin it as innovative, necessary, etc. The prior proprietary adapter wasn't "clunky" until Apple decided to change it. It wasn't "too big" or "too old" either. In fact, it would have fit the same-sized iPhone 5, iPod and iPad (maxi & mini) just as well as it fit the prior generations. It was just as fast and conceptually offered the added pins for even more future flexibility of functionality.

There is always a business advantage though in developing a new hardware standard and thoroughly locking it down: very high margin profits and lucrative licensing deals as the whole world of loyal buyers must eventually deal with the change (by spending money to change, and a slice of that money flowing to Apple).

I wish Apple would focus their profit maximization efforts on bigger picture stuff: Macs, iDevices, <next big thing that is not either of those>, rather than nickel & dimeing us like this. Of course, there will be XX bashers who tell me how wrong I am... that this change was absolutely necessary... even at their own personal expense of having to make the change with us. Because what matters to us Apple consumers is maximizing Apple's profits in every possible way. Apparently that matters more to some of us than getting good value for our own money.

Agreed. My guess is that eventually this connector will be reverse engineered. Until then I'm staying away from everything that uses it. Although I prefer android phones, it will be a long time before we see something comprable in quality and ease of use to the ipad and macbook air.

With as much profit as apple generates, you'd think they would be less concerned with "nickel and diming" the public.
 
The first (and only) time I left my only lightning cable at home and had my ip5 die with an hour left at work plus the ride home, I bought a second cable to keep one at work and one to keep in my vehicle. Yes it was expensive but no longer worried about my battery dying.
 
The last cheap 3rd party accessories I had the "chance" of using not only took twice the time for charging my iPhone but it also made its touchscreen almost unusable while charging.

Hopefully Apple requiring some quality control for 3rd party accessories will make shoddy products a thing of the past.

I understand, but is it really Apple's responsibility to police the quality of the iPhone's accessories? Are they going to start testing the durability of cases next? You buy a cheap accessory, you're going to get a cheap accessory. As an Apple product owner, you likely know that already. Besides, Apple has enough on its hands in terms of quality control lately.
 
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