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Apple Kills Off Chomp App Discovery Services for Android

Let's see... Microsoft supports Mac OS X, with a version of Office, and other minor software releases. But the only item of software that Apple currently releases for Windows is iTunes.

Google also supports both Mac OS X and iOS, with many major software titles that they develop available in a version for Mac OS X or iOS, or both. Examples include Google Drive, Google Maps, and Google Earth. Whereas, Apple does not support Android at all.

So what is Apple afraid of?

It seems to me that with Apple, the entire company exists within an invisible shell, with all the people inside having a bunker mentality.
 
wikus said:
Some of the replies in this thread are very..... telling.

What would you guys do if Google pulled the plug from iPhone for services like... SEARCH? Or maps, email, etc?
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Google isn't stupid.

Sure they are on top of search now, but two guys invented the computer in a garage in california. How long in this day in age would it take the most valuable company in the world to come out with viable alternative to search?
 
Average user or not...

iSayuSay said:
Lol.. Average user dont need games? Tell that to iPhone/iPad users where games sells a lot. OSX does not get a good and new game (except for diablo3 in coming month) nor support it any better than even iOS, let alone windows. Average users do games.

Hmm windows have VMware if you want to be so pedantic about virtual machine capabilities on Windows.

Funny. I bring in my iMac twice within first year for display problem, the second was for crashed OS which happens to be a gpu failure. My old Pentium4 pc at least had been fine for the last 6 years :D

Please stop Apple is perfect attitude. Mac fails just as much as "the other side" and OSX is not as secure as you want to imagine. Only thing that I still happy with Apple is their excellent service support and AppleCare compared to other pc companies. Outside those, Mac repair and maintenance always cost you arms and legs. Just wait until your precious Macbook run out of warranty and lost its logic board or GPU. You'd hate them for life to make you pay absurd amount for it. :p
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I agree that average users like games, only problem so far is that most of the games today are tied to the DirectX engine and I do not know if Microsoft is willing to sell the rights of use to anybody, since they did corner the market for years and they have the advantage! Good for them!

VMware is not bootcamp where you double boot into Windows and play your favorite games in full speed (Well Apple does not allow Mac OS X to run officially in other hardware! Good for them too!).

Being 52 winters old and having experience in all platforms that are out there since 1984 (some dead ones too), I can assure you that Apple does not fail "like the other side", especially if you run for a long time (even days) resource hungry Apps, like 3D rendering, Photoshop etc, etc! Good for the Pros (I consider myself one).

My brother still runs a 2007 iMac with no problems at all, so I believe after all these years, if something breaks, he will opt for a new one!
Mine is an early Mac Pro 2008 and another 2006 at work still work great too!
Only problem the graphic cards seem like they expire every 2 years (ATI's problem).

My old Windows PCs they lasted as long too (with replaced graphic cards as well) and when the mainboards expired I just could not find replacements, so I had to get new ones as well(with CPU,RAM,etc.etc)!

It is really a matter of choice what you are going to use, but for my work and everyday tasks is Mac OS X, I find it more stable and reliable than Windows, which I "bootcamp" only to play my fair share of Need for Speeds!
 
I wonder if Apple would have done this if Android had not copied Apple :p

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akaralias said:
I agree that average users like games, only problem so far is that most of the games today are tied to the DirectX engine and I do not know if Microsoft is willing to sell the rights of use to anybody, since they did corner the market for years and they have the advantage! Good for them!

VMware is not bootcamp where you double boot into Windows and play your favorite games in full speed (Well Apple does not allow Mac OS X to run officially in other hardware! Good for them too!).

Being 52 winters old and having experience in all platforms that are out there since 1984 (some dead ones too), I can assure you that Apple does not fail "like the other side", especially if you run for a long time (even days) resource hungry Apps, like 3D rendering, Photoshop etc, etc! Good for the Pros (I consider myself one).

My brother still runs a 2007 iMac with no problems at all, so I believe after all these years, if something breaks, he will opt for a new one!
Mine is an early Mac Pro 2008 and another 2006 at work still work great too!
Only problem the graphic cards seem like they expire every 2 years (ATI's problem).

My old Windows PCs they lasted as long too (with replaced graphic cards as well) and when the mainboards expired I just could not find replacements, so I had to get new ones as well(with CPU,RAM,etc.etc)!

It is really a matter of choice what you are going to use, but for my work and everyday tasks is Mac OS X, I find it more stable and reliable than Windows, which I "bootcamp" only to play my fair share of Need for Speeds!
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This sounds like something I would write word for word then get slammed by the Apple hating community for lodging a reasonable argument. I have learnt to not even bother with the pimple teenagers and their watercooled spaceships because it is impossible for them to be open minded. I have used macs since 1991 (I was very young back then) back before they were hated and I feel if someone wants to call me a fanboi they can go jump haha. I am a professional too and yes OS X is my prefered OS for lots of reasons including stability though I don't like all this iOS integration.
 
wikus said:
Some of the replies in this thread are very..... telling.

What would you guys do if Google pulled the plug from iPhone for services like... SEARCH? Or maps, email, etc?
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Apple is a hardware company. Google is an advertising company, that makes its money by adoption of its services. And Google currently makes more money off its services for iOS than it makes off its services for Android. This simply wouldn't make sense for them.

But let's, for argument's sake, take a look at this. Google bought YouTube awhile back. Let's say that tomorrow, they blocked all Apple devices from accessing it. Even if that decision was somehow financially sound, it wouldn't be the same as what happened here. Apple's completely repurposed Chomp's staff, and effectively shut down its old business. If Google had bought YouTube, put its employees to work on Google Video, and SHUT DOWN YouTube, that would be a more fair analogy. And you know what? If Google decided to do that, fair play to Google; it's their company (and their funeral).
 
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Apple Killing Off Chomp: Turnabout is Fair Play

Some of you cats need a history lesson on the computer industry. I see people getting way bent out of shape about something that's been going on since the advent of personal computing.

Microsoft was cutting the legs out from underneath Apple users since the very early nineties. It started when Jobs & Woz refused to license the Mac OS, and so Gates decided he'd do it himself. Because he licensed the OS to every manufacturer who wanted it, it quickly became the "VHS" of the computer world, while Apple was left with it's "Betamax" OS.

Next, in order to sell more copies of Windows, they started porting the code for Office to the Mac. Wrote it on Windows, and used Pcode to port it. Lo and behold, look how horrible it runs on the Mac, and look at how great it runs on Windows.

Adobe has been running the same games for the last 10 years. I know developers from this company that wish they were only writing code for Windows, and they hate the Mac - or at least did a decade ago. Remember that Adobe got its start developing Postscript and ATM on the Mac. But when Windows became a bigger market, the Mac was a thorn in their side. I remember working at Aldus and they bragged at how Pagemaker was over 1 million lines of code.

Adobe also drug their feet porting CS fully over to the Mac, even though Apple spent extra development time creating the Carbon layer to bridge OS 9 -> OS X. Interesting to hear some folks (not all, but some) at Adobe whine about Carbon going away even though they had a little over a decade to prepare for that moment.

So think about that when reading Steve's open letter on Flash, and why Apple doesn't want to support proprietary stuff that is bloated and slow, and the company who writes it looks to be in bed with Microsoft. (Same goes for Intuit, but I digress).

Lastly, don't forget that Steve felt personally slighted by Eric Schmidt for being on the board, and viewing the Android of a blatant rip off of Apple's IP. And sorry to offend any Droid users out there, but it is the mobile version of what Windows 3.1 was in 1990.

It was interesting when Apple bought Logic and decided to stop making that version for Windows. People cried foul. I laughed because it had been done to Apple users time and time again over the years.

Apple has no obligation to support Android, and more power to them if they can acquire technology that slows that substandard piece of crap OS. I personally don't care, people can use what they want.

I don't know why people are up in arms about this. What the hell is Google to you anyway? They don't even know what they do. They see other companies innovations and try to outdo them at their ideas. Stupid. It's like they're throwing paint at the wall and they want to see what sticks. Do they have any original ideas of their own? Really? And I suppose someone will chime in with some obscure technology that they've come up with, but in the big picture I see them trying to outdo Microsoft, Facebook and Apple at whatever they think is popular - and I think they have lost sight of their vision.

They should have remained a data repository and search engine.
 
I believe I was the reader who reported this. I'm happy to see that others have noticed the sorry demise of the excellent Chomp for Android too.

Personally, as a decades-long Mac fan but an Android user too, I think it's a damned shame and a dirty trick by Apple.

Nothing more to be said. It worked great but now it's gone.
 
Siri goes Silent

Reminds me of when Apple KILLED my Siri App, which I PAID FOR, and Apple did not refund my money.

Siri was a very nice App, we customers who purchased it BEFORE Apple purchased the company were all left high and dry, with a Siri gone silent.
 
knowhowe said:
I believe I was the reader who reported this. I'm happy to see that others have noticed the sorry demise of the excellent Chomp for Android too.

Personally, as a decades-long Mac fan but an Android user too, I think it's a damned shame and a dirty trick by Apple.

Nothing more to be said. It worked great but now it's gone.
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Trick :D you are too funny.
 
Meyvn said:
Apple is a hardware company.
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What hardware does Apple manufacture?

I have a MacBook Pro and the components are;

-Intel Mobo
-Intel Processor
-Samsung RAM
-Toshiba Hard Drive
- Hitachi Optical Drive
- Synaptics Touchpad
- AMD Graphics Card
- Samsung LCD Screen

So where does Apple come in as a hardware manufacturer???
 
wikus said:
What hardware does Apple manufacture?

I have a MacBook Pro and the components are;

-Intel Mobo
-Intel Processor
-Samsung RAM
-Toshiba Hard Drive
- Hitachi Optical Drive
- Synaptics Touchpad
- AMD Graphics Card
- Samsung LCD Screen

So where does Apple come in as a hardware manufacturer???
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I don't believe anybody ever said they were a hardware MANUFACTURER - they are a hardware seller and make most of their money from selling hardware.... They make software to make the hardware more saleable and attractive to customers.

Also somebody has to design and spec that hardware and get it all working happily together - it doesn't just get left in Tim Cooks office overnight by the iPad and Macbook fairies.

Using your logic most PC makers aren't "hardware manufacturers" either as they all just buy in and assemble components from 3rd partys....
 
Apple convinced Jobs to put iTunes on Windows, result is iPod exploded in popularity.

Sometimes it is good to support another system.

In this case, maybe it could or maybe not.

Maybe supporting Android version could be a great ninja way to promote iOS?

Imagine if Android users see all apps in a category, but a note saying "iOS Only" on some?
 
wikus said:
Irrational thinkers, ie; blind Apple fanbase is a serious problem.

Theres nothing wrong with buying and enjoying Apple products. But theres a lot wrong with the idea that Apple should buy out everyone and essentially turn the market into 1984 (ironic, isnt it...??)
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I agree, but there's blind people on every side. Apple, Google, Microsoft etc. It's just that Apple is the most popular/sought after. Also it doesn't help that a lot of Apple fans are bandwagoners.
 
wikus said:
Like what, Bing?

The only way to fully satisfy these obsessed apple evangelists is to have Apple take over literally every market and slap their logo on everything.

Its like theres no room for alternatives, EVERYTHING must be Apple.

Unfortunately even with their crazy fantasy it would be the most destructive idea ever, essentially killing competition and making innovation stagnant. Why would Apple or anyone else need to innovate if there arent any other players?

And most importantly... WHEN DID CHOICE BECOME A BAD THING?
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Google's done the same thing, please. Simplify comes to mind.
 
wikus said:
What hardware does Apple manufacture?

I have a MacBook Pro and the components are;

-Intel Mobo
-Intel Processor
-Samsung RAM
-Toshiba Hard Drive
- Hitachi Optical Drive
- Synaptics Touchpad
- AMD Graphics Card
- Samsung LCD Screen

So where does Apple come in as a hardware manufacturer???
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I didn't say Apple was a hardware manufacturer, but nice try with the straw man there. I said they were a hardware company; they sell hardware. They make the vast, vast majority of their money by selling hardware.

(If you really wanted to get into it, we could talk about their cases, or the Apple-designed processors in their mobile devices, but that, of course, would be messing about with it means in the industry to manufacture something, since so many companies contract out to various factories not owned by them. But again, pointless discussion, since I never claimed they were a manufacturer; you just put those words in my mouth for the sake of straw manning me, and of course, dodging the rest of my earlier response to you).
 
iSayuSay said:
Lol.. Average user dont need games? Tell that to iPhone/iPad users where games sells a lot. OSX does not get a good and new game (except for diablo3 in coming month) nor support it any better than even iOS, let alone windows. Average users do games.

Hmm windows have VMware if you want to be so pedantic about virtual machine capabilities on Windows.

Funny. I bring in my iMac twice within first year for display problem, the second was for crashed OS which happens to be a gpu failure. My old Pentium4 pc at least had been fine for the last 6 years :D

Please stop Apple is perfect attitude. Mac fails just as much as "the other side" and OSX is not as secure as you want to imagine. Only thing that I still happy with Apple is their excellent service support and AppleCare compared to other pc companies. Outside those, Mac repair and maintenance always cost you arms and legs. Just wait until your precious Macbook run out of warranty and lost its logic board or GPU. You'd hate them for life to make you pay absurd amount for it. :p
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Desktop gaming and mobile gaming are TWO DIFFERENT categories. Mobile is purely casual, desktop is more hardcore gaming.

Can VMWare Windows install OSX? Sure but have fun with compatibility with those fragmented parts moving forward.

Good for your Pentium 4? Obviously your iMac was replaced both times if it happened within the first year, so what's the problem here? Defects happen. I could tell you the same thing about my Mac not having problems but my PC having defects within the first year, what's your point?

Never did I say Apple was perfect, I just said it's the better solution. I know it's not fully secure like some fanboys paint it to be but hey, I haven't had any problems within the 3 years of owning it which is a lot more I can say than any of my previous PCs.

FYI my MacBook Pro is already out of warranty and honestly? I could care less. If it dies, then it dies. I'm at the point with my Mac that I wouldn't mind paying for another MacBook Pro if it were to go out on me.

Chances are, it'll have a hi-res screen and kill my C2D in the spec department. You tell me, why would I hate Apple for that? 3 years out of a computer is more than enough for me.
 
knowhowe said:
I believe I was the reader who reported this. I'm happy to see that others have noticed the sorry demise of the excellent Chomp for Android too.

Personally, as a decades-long Mac fan but an Android user too, I think it's a damned shame and a dirty trick by Apple.

Nothing more to be said. It worked great but now it's gone.
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Apple didn't buy the company to shut it down or to remove it from Android, but because (as with all Apple acquisitions) the company's execs felt that Chomp had tech and expertise that would significantly enhance the core iOS experience. Chomp will cease to exist as a separate app, but will instead be fully integrated into a future version of iOS. So there is no purpose in continuing to support Chomp as a standalone Android app. Chomp and the resources that developed/supported it no longer exist as a separate entity. If Apple could have integrated Chomp into iOS without retasking its resources and using its IP, then why would Apple have bought Chomp in the first place?
 
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