Apple Launches 8 GB iPhone 5c, Relaunches 16 GB iPad 4

[HenryDJP]

The point is, how many of those people are there left? And are they going to pay a premium price for a 5C?

You do realize that even $5 can make a difference on a person's purchasing decision between two products. I'm not saying this will be a successful venture but there are people that have a very strict budget and every penny matters. And there are quite a few people that have a flip phones out there. More than you know.

 

[Max(IT)]

Meanwhile I just bought a 128gb micro SD card for my 32gb Galaxy S4 bringing it to 160gb. That card was only $120.

Very interesting ... And what version of iOS is running on your s4 ? Ah ... It's android ...

 

[Max(IT)]

Edit: I checked their website. It uses an app - just like all the other iPod/iPad/iPhone add-on storage devices.

That said, the all-in-one form factor is very appealing. And as long as the app is easy to use it could be quite a successful product. I can see it being a huge threat to Apple if it encourages folks move their media out of iTunes and into third party apps. About time.

(It's a shame Mophie didn't put a micro SD slot in their case. That would've been perfect)

Micro SD are unreliable and relatively slow ... I don't understand how could someone desire it. In my android devices the only thing I stored in micro sd are pictures and songs.

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If 8 GB is enough for just some texting and calls, why buy a smartphone

Whatsapp ... iMessage .... FaceTime ... Some games.
For some kind of user 8 Gb are not so small, but the problem is the price.

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Is the 5c selling less than the 4s did after the 5 was released?

No one knows, but a lot of people made assumptions ....

 

[Phil A.]

whats funny is the brand new 16 gig samsung s5 only has 8.4 gig of available space without an additional sd card, which now thanks to kit kat cant be used by apps

What's funny is you're wrong on both counts:

1) The S5 has 10.7 GB of available space - http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/01/galaxy-s5-offers-10-7-gb-of-usable-storage-space-on-16gb-model/ - the 8.4 was a misreporting due to over 2GB of demo stuff

2) Apps can use the SD card in KitKat: It's more sandboxed than before (apps can't write at will anywhere on the SD card) but any app can write to "their" location on the SD card - http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...at-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/

The S5 also retains the App2SD capability Samsung have on their other phones

 

[Max(IT)]

Why can't it. Not everyone gets an iPhone to take tons of photos and keep them on the phone. Not everyone is a teenage girl and has to retain 10000 texts.

And an 8gb 5C has a better processor than an 8gb 4s so it runs the newer iOS better, making a better experience for customers

Correct.

Is just the price that is 100$ too high! like it was for the original 16 Gb iPhone 5C

 

[Zxxv]

Storage space is not going to affect performances, so you are wrong.
The only wrong thing here is the price.
Surely not performance, because iPhone 5C is faster than many mainstream competitors.
The problem is that the price is ridiculously high and 8 Gb are a very little space.

gee have you ever used an iPhone with low storage? the user experience is horrendous and performance is user experience.

Delete this, move this, do I need that, oh **** I can't do this, can't do that, aghh

thats not iPhone expeeince as depicted in keynotes or ads on apples webiste.

do all this... yea right... not on a iPhoney 5c 8gb you won't.

 

[Max(IT)]

What's funny is you're wrong on both counts:

1) The S5 has 10.7 GB of available space - http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/01/galaxy-s5-offers-10-7-gb-of-usable-storage-space-on-16gb-model/ - the 8.4 was a misreporting due to over 2GB of demo stuff

2) Apps can use the SD card in KitKat: It's more sandboxed than before (apps can't write at will anywhere on the SD card) but any app can write to "their" location on the SD card - http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...at-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/

The S5 also retains the App2SD capability Samsung have on their other phones

It's not only "more sandboxed" ... It implies limitations, strong limitations for some kind of apps, so sd card usage seems to be not so welcomed in the future, in google's view ...

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gee have you ever used an iPhone with low storage? the user experience is horrendous and performance is user experience.

Delete this, move this, do I need that, oh **** I can't do this, can't do that, aghh

thats not iPhone expeeince as depicted in keynotes or ads on apples webiste.

do all this... yea right... not on a iPhoney 5c 8gb you won't.

An 8 Gb device isn't for me, nor for you.

My wife's Galaxy S3 has no more than 1 Gb of content installed ... So she could be fine with just 4.5 Gb of free space available.

 

[Todd B.]

Gotta love seeing the comments in this thread from the people who have no idea how to run a multi-billion dollar company trying to armchair manage or Android trolls.

 

[numlock]

Micro SD are unreliable and relatively slow ... I don't understand how could someone desire it. In my android devices the only thing I stored in micro sd are pictures and songs.

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Whatsapp ... iMessage .... FaceTime ... Some games.
For some kind of user 8 Gb are not so small, but the problem is the price.

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No one knows, but a lot of people made assumptions ....

too slow for pictures or music?

4 gig would be enough for those.
yes for some the problem is the price. however the 8 gig 5c hardly fixes that.

people make assumptions in both directions.

 

[RebornProphet]

It's a great chip but it does not compare to the performance and power of the iPad air.

Right now the power and performance of the iPad Air is a hair above that of the iPad 4.

That will change with time, but side by side right now there is very little between them.

 

[paysdoufs]

add this one
New data suggests the iPhone 5C has been a disaster - The Times of India - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-has-been-a-disaster/articleshow/32210462.cms

Apple Sitting On More Than 3 Millions Unsold iPhone 5c Units, Report Says | TechnoBuffalo - http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/0...e-than-3m-unsold-iphone-5c-units-report-says/

That would explain why I see billboard ads for ugly pinkish iPhones in the streets since a couple of days here in Geneva. Can't remember that Apple ever did this for any other device (especially months after launch): Basically, people her tended to buy every iPhone Apple released, no question asked. But not the 5C, apparently (and never seen one in the wild so far).

 

[jrbdmb]

Can't innovate anymore my a$$

Yup, take the existing 5C and cut the memory in half ... downright revolutionary.

 

[xmichaelp]

To be fair, its INTEL that holds laptops back, not Apple. The i3 junk they sell for Windows is SLOWER than Core 2 Duo stuff from 4 years ago. Intel just makes stuf smaller which makes THEM money for little performance increase.

At least with the A-series chips Apple doesn't go BACKWARDS like intel has been. If they don't move forward in big steps to sell cheaper products that's not as terrible as what the Androis folks are doing with their dozens of carrier specific, same-named phones that are just as backwards in hardware specs.. It's just harder to prove because in the Android/Windows world nobody keeps the same model numbers for more than 4 months so you cannot compare units.

i3 are not slower than core 2 duo, they're significantly faster, even than the core 2 quads.

 

[ColdShadow]

Replacing iPad 4 with the old ass and completely out dated iPad 2 was a good and wise decision.
However the 8 GB 5c for just slightly cheaper price makes no sense.
They shoud have dropped the price of the 16 GB 5c,to get rid of the un-sold batches and slowly discontinue this un-attractive and un-popular product.

 

[mdelvecchio]

Let's face it: the 5c has been a failure and the pricing is laughable. A 8 GB version won't change that. Sheesh, even a low end USB stick offers more storage space.

youre high -- the 5c is the 2nd and 3rd best-selling smartphone in carrier stores.

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/1...ne-at-all-u-s-carriers-iphone-5c-takes-third/

youd kill for that sort of "failure" in your own business...

 

[Grolubao]

http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones-1/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp.html

I have no further comments...

 

[gto55]

Leave the "HD" Bs to the android world, where the marketing rules ... It's about PPI, and iPhone 's resolution on a 4" display is still more than enough.
The A6 chipset still is quite powerful , the GPU is powerful too.

What is wrong is the price, ridiculously high, and the only 8 Gb of free space.

This marketing belongs only to Android's world ?
Really ?

Etc...

 

[nexusrule]

It's very very very funny to see hordes of Apple users that systematically tell to people asking them why they buy a pc/phone/tablet with equal/inferior components/performance set at an higher price than the competition that is for the user experience now spending all these words and time criticizing who wants an iPhone just to do some simple basic things (calling, messaging, social network stuff and so on). Can't the UX explanation count for those people too? (And no, obviously the UX won't suffer for the drive capacity if your usage pattern doesn't fill it up).

 

[Max(IT)]

This marketing belongs only to Android's world ?
Really ?

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Etc...

Ahem .... I can't see anything related to "HD screen" in your images

 

[apolloa]

Personally I think it was overpriced from day one and the 8 GB version doesn't fix that. I don't think it's a bad phone but Apple pricing their phones to fit the US contact price points (4S-$0, 5C-$99, 5S-$199) has made it too expensive for what it is.

I agree. With the iPhone 5S at least it has some quality to it, but not a plastic 5C.

 

[garylapointe]

Let's face it: the 5c has been a failure and the pricing is laughable.

The 5c pretty much last year's iPhone in a plastic case. I don't think anyone considered it to be serious competition to the 5s.

If they hadn't created the 5c, they'd have had the 5 at the same price (as they bumped down the previous few years phones). If a year old 5 didn't sell (compared to the new iPhone) would you consider it a failure? (this is pretty much the same thing)

My question is: Did the 5c sell better/same/worse than previous years when they were bumping down older models??? I'm assuming they repackaged/colored to attempt to sell more of the "new" instead of just dropping the price of the "old". Although, it's not always possible to compare year to year: when the 5 came out, last years iPhone was a smaller screen and a few years before, one was a non-retina screen, so there are always differences...

Gary

 

[irnchriz]

YES! Why on earth not? Why sell to carriers for so much less than to end users?! If O2 are getting it for £133 less than the 16GB model, why the *** is it only £40 cheaper at retail?

Because YOU only buy one. O2 will buy thousands.

 

[gto55]

Ahem .... I can't see anything related to "HD screen" in your images

maybe retina

 

[mungo2k]

The only problems I have with an 8GB phone is that it is no longer possible to limit the disk space Mail uses, since they dropped the option to choose how many emails to download in iOS7. And offloading photos is annoying.

Apple should offer unlimited photo-only cloud hosting for photos originating on your iDevice, which doesn't count towards your 5GB limit. Then an 8GB phone would make sense.

 

[Michael Scrip]

i dont think all hell will break loose. i actually thought i had expressed it well enough that im disappointed this is the only thing apple can think of to offer a "cheaper" phone and further than the 5c is a continuing disappointment in my eyes.

my example for my mom and my sister was merely an anecdotal evidence in reply to comment a about non techie people you made. simply just because you arent a techie dosent mean you dont require space.

im not blaming anyone but myself regarding my situation and my phone (even if i blame myself). certainly not apple. again i was pointing how life is on an 8 gig device in this day and age.

if you want me to word it differently i can say. i wish apple would offer a cheaper/more reasonably price entry phone with usable and more future proof capacity.

"Entry-Level" and "Future-Proof" aren't really what Apple is about.

If you spend more for a higher-end iPhone... you're gonna be better off. It's like that with a lot of products.

While I would love for ALL iPhones to come with a lot of storage standard... that's not how Apple rolls. Apple has always had tiered product lines.

As I've said before... Apple wants you to move up to the next product. If 8GB is too small... they have 16GB phones for you to buy.

If someone is interested in the 5C... great! It's actually a much better phone than the 4S. I wouldn't suggest the 4S to anyone today.

And if you want a 5C... you can now choose the same 8GB that you'll find on the 4S... or pay just a little bit more and get a 16GB 5C. (which is actually the same price it was prior to yesterday)

But if you're worried about having buyer's remorse from buying a phone that is too small... that responsibility will fall on the user. Apple makes it very clear on their website... and any decent salesmen will suggest that you buy the most capacity you can.

From Apple's website:

What’s the difference in storage sizes?
iPhone 5c comes in three storage sizes: 8GB, 16GB and 32GB. The term ‘GB’ stands for gigabytes. The more gigabytes you have, the more content you can store on your iPhone — apps, games, photos, HD videos, music, films and more. For example, if you have a large music or photo library or you frequently download HD films, it’s a good idea to consider an iPhone with a larger storage capacity. If you have a relatively small music or photo library or rarely make or buy films, an iPhone with a smaller capacity may be better for you. Of course, over time you will accumulate many things on your iPhone, so you’ll want to think about how your storage needs may evolve.

Is the iPhone 5C a disappointment? Maybe... maybe not.

But all Apple did was bring the cost of the 5C a little closer to the cost of the 4S.

If someone was considering the 8GB iPhone 4S at £349... now the much better iPhone 5C with that same amount of storage is more within reach at £429

Like I said before... no one should buy the iPhone 4S today. If someone is fine with 8GB... moving to the 5C will get you LTE, a faster processor, better screen, etc. It's worth it.

And if 8GB is too small... you still have the same 16GB options available.