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I still would like to see some concrete numbers for this, but I think it's telling that I haven't seen one single iPhone 5c in the wild. Not one. On the other hand, I encountered about quite a lot 5s, including a sizeable number in "pimp", sorry, I meant "champagne".

I teach at a college in California, and I see them all the time. About one 5c to two 5s. Yes it is a smaller percentage, but it is a sizable amount.
 
Let's face it: the 5c has been a failure and the pricing is laughable. A 8 GB version won't change that. Sheesh, even a low end USB stick offers more storage space.

Agreed on the stupid pricing but you can't compare a flash to a normal USB stick, they're completely different!

As much as I LOVE Apple, I don't understand what's going on with the 5C pricing strategy. The 8GB is not that much cheaper so why bother making a 8GB. :mad:
 
I saw one, and only one! :D

I've seen a few 5Cs... but obviously Apple's top-seller right now is the 5S

But that's always the case. The newest phone is always the leader... with a huge drop for the year-old model... and an even further drop for the two-year-old model.

This is an unusual year in that there is the "refreshed" 5C... but the same thing comes into play.

The overwhelming majority of Apple's iPhone sales are the current model... followed by the next two models in a distant 2nd and 3rd.

The iPhone 5 vastly outsold the iPhone 4S and 4 in their day, too.
 
iGreed the new iPhone from apple, looks like an iPhone... performs like a piece of ****. Text and call only with the all new iXpensive iPhone with zero storage to do the things you love.

Apple destroying the brand piece by piece...
 
iGreed the new iPhone from apple, looks like an iPhone... performs like a piece of ****. Text and call only with the all new iXpensive iPhone with zero storage to do the things you love.

Apple destroying the brand piece by piece...

The iPhone 5 / 5c do not perform like a piece of ****. But 8GB is absolutely ridiculous.
 
The iPad 4 at £329 is a ridiculously good deal.

It's still an absolute screamer, runs all the latest apps as on par with iPad Air and is the exact same performance wise on iOS 7.1 as the Air.

If you want the lighter body form then go for the Air but the 4 has lots of life left in it, the A6X is a great chip.

I wouldn't say exact same performance. I was a heavy ipad4 user and the air is just a bit more quicker especially opening apps and tasking.

I'm just stating my experiences from owning both.

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I still would like to see some concrete numbers for this, but I think it's telling that I haven't seen one single iPhone 5c in the wild. Not one. On the other hand, I encountered about quite a lot 5s, including a sizeable number in "pimp", sorry, I meant "champagne".

Not sure what area your from but I see the 5c everywhere just as much as the 5s.

iPhone 5 in slate is still the most that I see though
 
iPhone 5c 8GB only in some countries like France, Germany.
Not available in Italy, the Netherlands, Spain...

Anyway it's not worth it. 8GB is too few.
In Germany it has the lowest price, 549€.
 
in a time where many of us are (were) naively purchasing technically outdated ipad mini 1 as well as i pad 2, retina laptops with just 4GB (!), just to save a few bucks, or laptops with almost the same performance as 3 (!) years ago, this is a move from apple that you could expect ... they are just following the demand.

today most apple's customers are not the "pro's" anymore but many customers do short-term decisions in favour to save a hundret dollars (forgetting about the fact that this will push them a lot earlier into a re-purchase for an updated device). apple is only reacting to this. i know there are STILL many pro's buying apple, like myself, but we are not the majority anymore.

well, everything has its price.

sad.

To be fair, its INTEL that holds laptops back, not Apple. The i3 junk they sell for Windows is SLOWER than Core 2 Duo stuff from 4 years ago. Intel just makes stuf smaller which makes THEM money for little performance increase.

At least with the A-series chips Apple doesn't go BACKWARDS like intel has been. If they don't move forward in big steps to sell cheaper products that's not as terrible as what the Androis folks are doing with their dozens of carrier specific, same-named phones that are just as backwards in hardware specs.. It's just harder to prove because in the Android/Windows world nobody keeps the same model numbers for more than 4 months so you cannot compare units.
 
Stupid as this move may seem I think it's more about selling to kids getting their first phone and older people who want a smartphone. iPod killer move.

and goodbye iPad 2.
 
Can't even bear to hit the £399 mark? For shame, Apple!

Xbox one was reduced to 399 when they realised the brits weren't too happy paying about 60% more for the same thing as the americans, it could happen in the future, but we are talking about apple here:apple:
 
Sometimes people just want a really good performing phone that will take a few photos, store some music and make phone calls... Device capacity doesn't matter to everyone, so the iPhone 5c fits that perfectly.
You're talking about 'light' users. I agree that 8 GB might be more than enough for them.

However, for novice users it is difficult to predict whether 8 GB will be enough for them. Furthermore, it is very well possible that using an iPhone makes you want to use it more than you had in mind, thus downloading more games, taking more videos, etc. It is very common for people to say "nah I don't need that, I'll save a few bucks" even though they ended up needing it anyway, because it's hard for them to predict how they will use a device after a weeks or months.

The kicker is, the iPhone is a premium phone. It has polish where you wouldn't need or expect it. An iPhone is supposed to amaze the customer, not frustrate it. 8 GB is certainly going to be frustrating for a lot of users. Even my mother was complaining about her iPhone 4 having only 8 GB, and she's the prototype low end user who wants an iPhone. Really, she doesn't do a lot of stuff on it, just the basic things, and she has almost zero storage capacity left.

If Apple truly wants to make the best phone possible, they should sell it with more capacity than people actually need. That way they will be surprised. Even better, they're able to actually use the iPhone the way is was designed, i.e. take HD video, download media from iTunes, download apps, etc. How are users going to engage in the app store if the phone's full all the time? Answer: they won't even bother looking in the app store anymore. They simply stop being part of the ecosystem, leaving little friction for an iOS to Android switch.

Apple's leverage is the ecosystem, users should be encouraged to use that to the max. You simply can't do that with 8 GB.
 
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In the UK it has the lowest price, 513€ converting £429 ;)
Anyway, I don't want it.
:p

£429 for a phone with year old internals and storage space from 2007.

this is beyond pathetic.

if you dont need more space than this which means you dont take a lot of pics, videos and dont really make use of the processing powers in playing games other than solitaire. do you really need a smartphone since your needs seem to be covered in a much much cheaper feature phone.

btw just for comparisons sake a 16 gig 5s with tax in the us is actually cheaper.
 
With all the different assets bundled into every app (retina + non-retina for both iPad and iPhone, plus possibly specific 5/5C/5S "wide"), 8 GB is insane. It's almost criminal for Apple to even sell that phone because a lot of people are going to run out of space fast. Leaving aside all the app data and assets, and user photos and videos, and email and text message attachments, the OS itself needs a good chunk, and you need a considerable extra amount to even install iOS upgrades.

Bad mistake on Apple's part, it's going to foster resentment among people who buy these phones, whether it's what they deserve for not knowing better or not. 8 GB was barely enough or not enough 2-3 years ago, it's a joke today.
 
In Australian store:

8GB iPhone 5c: $679 ($60 less than 16GB) = overpriced nonsense.

16GB iPad with Retina Display: $449 ($149 less than 16GB iPad Air) = GOOD DEAL!

Hard to work out how they can be so generous with the iPad 4 and so stingy with the iPhone.

You sure about that? I get $529 for the iPad 4 (so $70 less than Air, $100 more than the iPad 2 it replaces).

We probably get stung by a mid-year currency fluctuation against us, which doesn't help as much. But it will be interesting to see the US prices (if any) - looks like it won't be $0/$449 for the 8GB iPhone 5c as expected.
 
The iPhone 5 / 5c do not perform like a piece of ****. But 8GB is absolutely ridiculous.

this topic is about the iPhone 5c at 8gb not the 5 or 5c at 16gb or 32gb. It will perform like I said. go fill it and see i.e. use it as an iPhone and find out its an iPhone in disguise, i.e. an iPhoney. It can't do all the things advertised as an iPhone doing.
 
Perhaps that would worked if they had released the 8GB model at the beginning?

Perhaps.

But 6 months ago or today you'd still have the decision whether or not to pay the extra £40 to double the capacity.

It makes more sense to pay an extra £40 to double the capacity of the 8GB phone than to save £40 by cutting the 16GB phone in half.

It's psychological pricing!

But if the 16GB model is not selling well I highly doubt that introducing a 8GB will make the sales jump.

Yeah I dunno. I figure Apple already has a factory making the iPhone 5C... so they don't really have to do a lot to make a cheaper entry-level model.

This just gives an even lower starting price for the 5C... but people are probably gonna "upgrade" to the 16GB 5C anyway.

Again... it's psychological. They get you in the door at £429... but you'll be walking out with the £469 model.

Both the 8 and 16 models are overpriced

You may be right. Check this out.

If you've ignored the temptation of the 8GB 5C for £429 and are comfortable spending £469 for the 16GB 5C...

For only £80 more you can get the 16GB iPhone 5S

That's the one you really want! :D

Maybe the entire iPhone 5C line is simply there to push you towards the 5S
 
A lot of you here must be "analysts" for you day job. You attack Apple for improving their entry point devices. The 4s? Yup, 8gb. Now, I am a bit confused why the 4s is still around, thought for sure that it would get killed for the 8gb 5c and that the 5c would be the $450 iPhone. Also, that the 4s and iPad 2 would not get iOS 8. Seems like the iPad 2 won't, but depending on what they do with the 4s over the next couple of months, still could be the plan.
 
This will kill prices on the used and refurbished iPad 4, won't it? I snagged the wifey a refurbed 4 a few months ago. Oh well. Why didn't they just do this back when the Air was launched? Would have made more sense to replace the 2 with the 4 right then and there. Whatever.
 
You may be right. Check this out.

If you've ignored the temptation of the 8GB 5C for £429 and are comfortable spending £469 for the 16GB 5C...

For only £80 more you can get the 16GB iPhone 5S

That's the one you really want! :D

Maybe the entire iPhone 5C line is simply there to push you towards the 5S

may be. but not for people that can only and were only thinking about spending £200-300 which is while still decent amount of money is more reasonable for this phone.
 
A lot of you here must be "analysts" for you day job. You attack Apple for improving their entry point devices. The 4s? Yup, 8gb. Now, I am a bit confused why the 4s is still around, thought for sure that it would get killed for the 8gb 5c and that the 5c would be the $450 iPhone. Also, that the 4s and iPad 2 would not get iOS 8. Seems like the iPad 2 won't, but depending on what they do with the 4s over the next couple of months, still could be the plan.
Why are you confused? The price gap between the 8GB 4S and 8 GB 5C is well over $100 in the UK or Germany.
 
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